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mircea_popescu: what else is "flashed in bios" ? don't whip the wife ? bow before government ?
mircea_popescu: fact is, fraud is traditionally inseparable from this sort of central event
mircea_popescu: but none of this changes that... the argument IS there.
mircea_popescu: the argument is there. not particularly strong. also note that the bar for bitbet arguments is crazy low. we've seen absurdities argued the likes of which would scare a highschool teacher.
mircea_popescu: you want to maximize its exposure. no conceivable reason to ever quit.
mircea_popescu: how does it work, hassabis goes "hey, quit already, we're running out of tape" ?
mircea_popescu: we didn't know that "surrender" would be an acceptable end.
mircea_popescu: not so hastily, no. they only started copying under the last sultan, after russian defeat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform twas deeply bureaucratic. the ENGLISH thought them overbureaucratized.
mircea_popescu: and since i mentioned the armenian genocide - the experience of erryday life among this lower class in the very wot-driven turkish empire quite exactly maps what i expect to be the lot of the keyless in the not-so-distant future.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter - all soviets, personal slaves of stalin.
mircea_popescu: as theory. this theory had lain fallow since suleyman.
mircea_popescu: speaking of ancient arcana - who even noticed that the soviet ideas of central planning are a direct calc copy off the way turkish empire ran ?
mircea_popescu: traditionally, lavoisier, i suppose. but mind that many people understood what you call chemistry long before the 1600s, and similarly an interest in alchemy survived long after.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller who in your view made the switch between the two ?
mircea_popescu: anyway - i welcome the antivirus-based new gestapo. it will doubtlessly work as well as the new us model army, seen at the muchly trumpeted, quickly forgotten tikrit offensive.
mircea_popescu: let the beluga take its unfortunate form emergently to mr doctor X, so as to receive bookend implants.
mircea_popescu: working by analogy with the fruits in the marketr stall, or perhaps even herself and her sisters, her ladyship figured such : what is good is tough and rocky, what's overripe, soft, unrestrained in the belts of rubbery skin is obviously iunferior.
mircea_popescu: specifically, that these black roe, large and soft as were put before her, are evidently inferior to true black roe, as she always gets at [we're skipping this, lest we shame the third party]. which are small, much, much smaller, needle sized, and tough, so you can crack them in your teeth.
mircea_popescu: a young consumation girl [ie, whore], otherwise clever and vivacious, receiving some caviar aside the mug of vodka, proceeded to explain some matters t ome.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> i will call this - ersatz cognition << the problem being that, much like in the case of blub, ersatz cognition can only be recognized by people not blessed with it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> but the other kind. << there's a deep reason the bayesian religion is widely appealing.
mircea_popescu: nah. much older, was in a tail end of a discussion of art iirc
mircea_popescu: how about the other one! that's what i really am after.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it sorta ended a larger piece, ima trilema.
mircea_popescu: fucking dogs do it, some of them at least, as per that experiment discussed in the logs.
mircea_popescu: trinque> it also seems to suggest that mind-amplification << mind amplification is really an everyday thing. that's what b-a does, and before b-a that's what the internet tried, and before that books, and so on.
mircea_popescu: the one with the army which, going through a field, encounters the same problems all the previous ones did.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> but the other kind. << im actually writing about this.
mircea_popescu: i suppose before i'm dead my life will consist of mostly wasting my time trying to find errant bits of log.
mircea_popescu: well this is sad, i can't fucking find it, half hour later.
mircea_popescu: hmm, anyone recall the place in the log of that discussion of the nth army going through the same field, and seeing the same bridgeheads and valleys and whatnot ?
mircea_popescu: bbl, redoing this wake-up thing, apparently it didn't happen fully.
mircea_popescu: space flight means chimps with monkeys << ie, chimps with rocks.
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu> and more importantly, because once expressed the current situation becomes tolerable << INtolerable, obviously. and in all fields. much like a smoky kitchen wall is tolerable for just as long as you don't see any actual white stuff for contrast. but bring in a new stove, suddenly the wall needs a paintjob too.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is deeply satisfying to beat idiots to death. you should try it sometime.
mircea_popescu: desires are no basis. "cryptography" does not stem from pgp-zimmerman, but from pgp-ba.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin, in any proper sense, means the republic, and the wot, and the forum, and so on. and similarly "cryptography" means "a bunch of derps on usenet" much in the same way space flight means chimps with monkeys. yes, the inclination to see inanimate objects fly is the same in both animals.
mircea_popescu: "bitcoin" in the sense of a collection of (whitepaper by satoshi, 2-3 shitty mutually exclusive prototypes by satoshi, even shittier code in prb) is much like "russia" in the sense of "the kiev kingdom".
mircea_popescu: (en passant : solution 3 is readily apparent, and it begins with selectively beating your children - the runts to death ; and then continuing in this manner. and there's plenty more.)
mircea_popescu: the statement was as to the problem and its expression.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am not discussing solutions, and plox not to mix it in we'll never end.
mircea_popescu: and more importantly, because once expressed the current situation becomes tolerable, or the statal / feminine definition of intelligence is "measure of capacity to adapt to environment [that we designed to suit ourselves]".
mircea_popescu: the list is more or less endless. the problem, more or less felt by everyone (ie, by all persons) and not expressed clearly and rigurously by anyone, because dunno how.
mircea_popescu: oh, more radio stations ? great, now the cars are all designed by imbeciles for imbeciles. let's make more houses in autocad! this is how a city looks!
mircea_popescu: sure, so you keep the nubbins` out of your house. great. they're going to put some shit on the radio. popculture!!1
mircea_popescu: people are stuck importing the bleating of moo moos all over the field and in all sorts of capacities, without any sort of modulation at their disposal, even.
mircea_popescu: this problem is not magically limited to software, but universal.
mircea_popescu: we're not fucktarded lunacharsky to imagine that "oh, will resist narkopomps in the field". fuck that stupid shit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform very much, for the obvious reason. we care about the heads of things, not the tail of things.
mircea_popescu: which is what, in any proper sense of the term, "bitcoin" and "crypto" even mean. not fucking pgp as seen by the zimmerman that "oh i don't even have the key anymore"
mircea_popescu: this is a major problem, at least to my eyes. it was just as large, if not nearly as expressible, before the age of bitcoin. by which, to be perfectly specific, i do not mean satoshi crapolade. i mean bitcoinb as in tmsr, and wot and ba and such.
mircea_popescu: for instance - everyone now invested in go has had his life rearranged by lee sedol's rather erratic behaviour.
mircea_popescu: the problem with loving go, like "loving science", like generally all sorts of investments of the self children are forced into, is that they end up importing "the people".
mircea_popescu: no, more like "love only things you're actually sure about"
mircea_popescu: punkman but it's the one with the "lands" to get mana to support troops is it ?
mircea_popescu is incredibly fucking glad he never gave in to the temptation as a child, and systematically never regarded go as anything above or beyond parlor trick to entertain oneself with teh nude houri postcoitally, in spite of perhaps reasonable and well reasoned arguments to the contrary.
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