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trinque: punkman: probably
a good format to annotate bitcoind
mircea_popescu: touch typing is good if you're going to do straight typing for mintues at
a time. i normally do not. i suppose you do not either, need
a mouse,
a this,
a buffer,
a that etc.
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem harem, actually. "if you have
a ton of babes, doing it wrong"
mircea_popescu: this follows in the wake of
a few threads mostly brought to
a head by the opnessl idiocies you might wish to review phf if you've not seen them before.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1185658 << this is not merely
a difference of workflow, but
a difference of philosophy. we are not interested in automation, we are interested in review and responsibility. the only concern that thing is adressing is that we find
a critical bug tomorrow, i want to know who to negrate.
☝︎ punkman: all that scrolling takes
a toll
mats: i'd ordinarily do all the work myself but carpal tunnel is
a srs rate limiter
ascii_modem: traditional holiday here. and there is
a spybot in the cloud. which is lulzy because there is
a huge sign, 'no smoking'-style, with crossed-out chopper
mircea_popescu: see ag3nt_zero, syllogism. reductio ad absurdum. present the op with
a dilemma, so he can either explain what was misunderstood or correct what he misunderstood
ascii_modem: sorta like gravity. yes, sufficiently far from solar system, anyone can become
a 'stellar body' if you shove him out airlock
mircea_popescu: arguably intelligence is similarly of
a capital good, and you have enough control of it to, for instance, contribute here. other people do not have this luxury - for instance because they agreed some employer owns it all.
mircea_popescu: as much as running your own server is controlling
a capital good. not
a very significant one, but that's
a quantitative discussion
mircea_popescu: even not counting the nsa etc ; pogo is
a capital good.
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 18:00:02; pete_dushenski: ascii_field: you buying
a case of z80s or pogos is reallocating capital
mircea_popescu: and i agree it's
a pity nobody cares enough to beat up that bum.
mircea_popescu: and he told me that he was an orphan, and that he got put by the commieus through the above grinder, and now he has
a family and owns his car.
mircea_popescu: this horrible trampling of rightrs and liberties resulted in
a romania with absolutely no bums, and moreover, in the anedcodtic situation where i picked up
a cab from the train station
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 17:48:44; decimation: actually I would pay good money for
a robot that could wonder through
a yard and pull weeds
shinohai: >mfw I see
a guy named "popescu" on the fbi wanted list.
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 19:56:42; trinque: could refine that to "and then presents me
a buffer of the diff"
mircea_popescu: because yes, we're fucktarded enough to not notice what's proposed here is
a closed f2pool - antpool loop. they're over there in their own parallel universe.
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 19:21:32; mod6: I will work on
a patch list and maybe
a script later this month. It is
a bit hard to follow.
mircea_popescu: "I shook hands with the man I did most of the talking with and they took off... I was
a little shooken up but realized I made
a big mistake! I forgot to shake the black police detective's hand... shit!!!"
ben_vulpes: eh, alf may actually get to the ada impl before
a block v1 sticks again.
mircea_popescu: one day, someone WILL mine
a version 1 block that WILL stick.
pete_dushenski: alas, some cabin and some party with some people beckon.
a demain !
assbot: Logged on 04-07-2015 16:02:26; punkman: maybe we should add
a .conf option that lets whoever really wants it to skip VerifySig between checkpoints
mircea_popescu: <punkman> gernika, maybe write up your process/mods << also
a good idea. submit to mail list, now you can.
assbot: Successfully added
a rating of 1 for gernika with note: New blood.
mircea_popescu: <punkman> "Después de encontrar una vulnerabilidad grave en el sistema de voto electrónico
a #MSA estan allanando mi casa, los de delitos informaticos." << in case anyone else missed it, this country is mostly
a parody.
gernika: For any interested: using phf's patch with
a few mods for amd64 I have successfully built stator on OpenBSD.
punkman: "Después de encontrar una vulnerabilidad grave en el sistema de voto electrónico
a #MSA estan allanando mi casa, los de delitos informaticos."
cazalla: punkman, killed em off
a while ago, might take em up again once i own
a larger block of land
cazalla: punkman, no pergola but we have
a clothesline i could commandeer but doubt the missus would like that heh
assbot: Logged on 04-07-2015 22:03:31; mircea_popescu: 3. in order to avoid the situation that happened tonight,
a supposed "voting" mechanism was deployed where people switched an irrelevant byte in the blocks they mined, to go from 2 to 3, to indicate they are ready and willing to follow the new rules.
punkman: cazalla, you can grow
a tall vine and have it hang from
a pergola type thing
cazalla: unfortunately i don't really have
a place suitable for
a few vines
mircea_popescu:
a gallon of water makes half hour's mist, protects the plant if there's any air draft at all
assbot: Logged on 04-07-2015 22:58:41; punkman: I tried heirloom tomatos for
a bit. I now know why everyone's using the same boring/bland strain.
mircea_popescu: almost as if someone was holding off hitting the muppets over the head with
a 2x4 until b-
a crowd had its ducks lined
danielpbarron: 71.232.150.212 port 8139 is
a fully synched 0.5.3.1~ node
☟︎ punkman: we need something that stores these forks for inspection and replaying. I think ben_vulpes had
a thread about that
mircea_popescu: i still dunno why they do it. i've not yet managed to unstick
a stuck one from last night
danielpbarron: aha my isp provided modem/router is working again. will have ip in
a moment
punkman: I tried heirloom tomatos for
a bit. I now know why everyone's using the same boring/bland strain.
☟︎ punkman: for
a short time I believed in the mythical farmer that actually knows what he's doing. But after watching the experts debug these things, my only conclusion is they sometimes get lucky and that's the best I could hope for.
mircea_popescu: the town was fully of blooming magnolias and i never saw
a single artichoke plant outside of my garden
mircea_popescu: <punkman> wait until you try to debug plants << he has
a point there. tho in fairness iirc alf debugged mice at some point.
mircea_popescu: there is no reason to expect any better in this new field. it is, after all,
a field.
ascii_modem: would really help to have
a fucking reasonable platform for this
mircea_popescu: but this situation is why im so cold on your ada idea. sure, you go put all the god damned effort into writing
a fully correct, fully specified implementation oif an... broken idea.
ascii_modem: one one hand, i don't give
a shit, yes. on the other,
a human turd pressed
a button, my nodes are halted, and there is no guarantee that they don't have
a bottomless magazine of these
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't envisage as much as an inkling of
a solution. just more stuff to worry about.
mircea_popescu: punkman right. hence all the "We don't give
a shit" verbiage here.
punkman: "
A blockchain that does not validate under 0.5.3 is an altcoin blockchain." << both forks were valid in 0.5.3, right?
mircea_popescu: hard to convey what the changes in dynamic such
a thing brings.
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem more specifically put : currently everyone is mining with
a "god given" known tx of 25 btc + whatever they pick off the ground.
mircea_popescu: it pays more as
a pool operator to be into skulldugery than into running your pool
mircea_popescu: or else by fucking up other people's miners. i ordered
a listing of "all the ways you could exploit
a miner with crafted comms for
a hash advantage"
mircea_popescu: anyway, the main sufferance in my head atm is that reading the chinese stuff (in translation) clarifies in my head an objection that may well be
a second major flaw to the protocol, after the "relay nodes gotta do it for the glory" : its altogether unclear
a purely financial incentive is the correct solution for miners.
☟︎ ascii_modem: so far i'm not sure any of you apprehend just what
a steaming turd the thing is
mircea_popescu: which sort of reorg apparentyly happens, or used to happen,
a whole lot.
punkman: I think we need to put
a lot more comments on the code, kinda clunky to do through patches to ML though
ascii_modem: there are different schools of thought re how to furnish
a room
mircea_popescu: i know she's stupid and fat and you want
a divorce, but...
mircea_popescu: this is
a major problem, and the fact we're looking into it one of the few things giving me solace and better rest at night
mircea_popescu: i run
a public company wut do you want from me, blood ?
mircea_popescu: im also going to have it unstuck, but i got
a shitpile of stuff cooking atm.
mircea_popescu: i do intend to replace it with
a foundation one as soon as practicable.
mircea_popescu: now, since you're synced to my level, and you have
a full validating node, i see no reason to not open the listen port. do you ?
mircea_popescu: specifically, what happens if you put the new chain into
a node
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem where were the daily forks b/w january (?) and now ? << costs
a little to make one, nobody cared enough. (also lots of manual intervention and general ducttaping at the miner and relayer level - bitcoin is quickly becoming an excellent makework tool, keeping idiots both employed and in
a delusion of importance)
mircea_popescu: none of this in any way invalidates anything about the new chain, nor is it
a point of concern that i can distinguish
mircea_popescu: this utterly proves that
a) the BIP system provides no benefit and should be disused ; b) the peoiple involved with all this nonsense should be muted ; c) voting does not work. nothing here is novel.
mircea_popescu: 4. the people who voted did so as all people voting ever do : blankly, mouth only. then, someone mined
a v2 block on top of
a v3 block (which to them look identical) and the supposed 95% majority that promised by that vote to distinguish failed to distinguish. well, half of them or so. the other half distinguished
mircea_popescu: this, again, has nothing to do with us. if tomorrow miners decide as
a social game to never communicate any blocks they find that hash to odd, it's THEIR problem
mircea_popescu: 3. in order to avoid the situation that happened tonight,
a supposed "voting" mechanism was deployed where people switched an irrelevant byte in the blocks they mined, to go from 2 to 3, to indicate they are ready and willing to follow the new rules.
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