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mircea_popescu: i thought we had a million key db at some point ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wasted many hours and actually moved phuctor to that thing, and it runs. just can't be reached from anywhere outside of box per se, aha.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo and where's ferguson at these days ? i haven't heard much out of there recently.
mircea_popescu: "I tried to take the conversation out of feelings and into logic by claiming that" << roosh is a fucktard srsly.
asciilifeform: i can't even config a fucking apache vhost on this thing.
mircea_popescu: "Instantly, I knew I was walking into a trap. I looked around, half hoping for a hug or some assurance that everything was going to be okay"
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I think some hmility was imposed when some of the black kids got too amped up on "kill whitey" and started going after Bosnians. Seems they learned better than to do that within a month or so.
pete_dushenski: eh. st louis could use a kick in the pants from what i hear.
danielpbarron: yeah i'm waiting for the end of the article where he admits to satire
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: I'm just astounded at how he suggests he anticipated his appearance on the show could be anything other than a trap and how he failed to prepare accordingly
trinque: asciilifeform: I think I read on your blog something about how source code should be stored as ASTs not text?
mircea_popescu: i have nfi
asciilifeform: i've tried three claimed locations so far and none work
assbot: How I Was Backstabbed By Dr. Oz And His Female Producers ... ( http://bit.ly/1J7nqbN )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform from the certain corners of the internet department http://www.rooshv.com/how-i-was-backstabbed-by-dr-oz-and-his-female-producers
mircea_popescu: kinda why i'm discovering all i really like off unix these days is like... curl. grep.
mircea_popescu: this, btw, is my constraint. fuck "fits in head", i dun care.
asciilifeform: i said 'sorta worx'
mircea_popescu: nope. why would i even bother with www except for a blog
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: again i don't want python serving up statics
asciilifeform: read the src if interested (under the user i created)
asciilifeform: and i want -one- log
asciilifeform: i want the two to restart together
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> i am still awaiting your gentoo canonical << not even objecting to the linux flavour of that box, but to the cpanel idiocy
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2015 22:12:44; trinque: I have to run, dunno what hoon is but I'll see if I can find info on it
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2015 21:38:56; mike_c: nginx always works. I have never been disappointed in it. Recommending shit to people is always a -EV process, but..
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114480 << recommending shit to me is not necessarily -ev, especially if it works. i have an elephantine memory. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ascii_field: i'd be open to a purely gnumake-based thing << this before make starts building static or only after ? :D
mircea_popescu: i doubt the magical patch that fixes the 1001 things will fit in 100kb for instance.
trinque: yeh, I prefer the hate one's peers rather than arbitrary rules
mircea_popescu: ascii_field: trinque: and if any of you produce a 100kB patch, and i barf on general principle << there is a problem here. the code as it is is pretty long. just a simple "remove most of it" will be in the kbs.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114312 << it'd be nice if something got compiled before i die. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i am still awaiting your gentoo canonical build being published / your canonical web hoster being enacted on this or any other box etc.
asciilifeform: 'how do i make?' 'like this..'
mircea_popescu: "really ? how do i make one ?" "oh..."
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform welcopme to linux world alfie << wtf linux world is this. i must've been living in a parallel one since quitting bsd ('04)
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes i suspect in this sense git may be TOO easy to use << precisely this
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform welcopme to linux world alfie. i hear it's where the smart boys go.
williamdunne: Ah okay, I see the difference now
mircea_popescu: williamdunne no, but i also don't ask it to sent me to college.
williamdunne: I understand with a gender studies degree though..
williamdunne: If I invest in college, and the outcome is a law degree, with which I become a lawyer, how is that not investment?
mircea_popescu: i think asciilifeform had an aneurism meanwhile
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> what'd i run it on ? << it's not actually such a bad idea to render the whole thing as flat files and do something cleverish w/comments
mircea_popescu: case I : causal. this satisfies both implication : with investment there NECESSARILY exists return ; without investment there NECESSARILY doesn't exist return.
trinque: ben_vulpes: oh have I had that conversation
mircea_popescu: oh i c.
williamdunne: I mean monetary
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2015 18:43:52; williamdunne: davout: If I believe paymium will possibly fail, but that you're going do something great in the future, I would be better off investing in you than paymium
trinque: Adlai | no offense but have you ever fired an assault rifle? << this is in no way relevant to what I said
trinque: alright, you forge one while I'm loading
trinque: ^ I don't like that for the record; let every man forge his own AK
trinque: mircea_popescu: when holding my gun should I wear an arm brace such that I am prevented from blowing my brains out?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: dude i guarantee you that git is too easy to use.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i suspect in this sense git may be TOO easy to use. at least in some aspects.
ben_vulpes: and i'm not even an expert on the finer points of the vcexen in the wild.
ben_vulpes: no, that's the point i wish to make. you're conflating github with git.
williamdunne: ben_vulpes: I don't know if this exists outside of GitHub (I rather assumed it does) but when you fork a repo so its your own version of it, you make changes to your own copy and then request that your changes are merged into the core repo
trinque: jurov: indeed, that last bit is what I've been harping on
jurov: oh i GC'd you
ben_vulpes: <jurov> benjy just needed to vent some steam << naw i just wanted to restart an ancient thread
trinque: jurov: I remember saying it.
jurov: i don't remember anything about enforcing history
trinque: having history machine readable and enforced is I think also a fine thing
trinque: having the canonical representation plaintext and readable I think is a fine thing
trinque: the earlier thread I think well represented the lay of the land
jurov: and i think other was that git stores them in opaque database. you cannot go to .git and start reading
jurov: i don't get it. "by content addressable" i understand somthing like putting sha1 sum in the URL
williamdunne: Yeah, I've not done much when it comes to native applications so anything client-side isn't really my boat
williamdunne: "Adlai envisions 'wothub' as a content-addressable signed patchstore" well its doable, but I only have 'x' amount of time
assbot: 1 results for 'not committing to it while I can't guarantee I'll execute' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=+not+committing+to+it+while+I+can%27t+guarantee+I%27ll+execute
williamdunne: !s not committing to it while I can't guarantee I'll execute
ben_vulpes: <trinque> not committing to it while I can't guarantee I'll execute << not worth it imho, leave it for someone like williamdunne
ascii_field: (i never had a key fingerprint for it)
ascii_field: betcha it was 'lost' as soon as i logged into cpanel
mircea_popescu: ascii_field : apxs -i -c -n mod_wsgi.so mod_wsgi.c
Adlai: she was all "this is not a good place for a dog" and i was all "bullshit my dog loves this bar because it's EV patron loves dogs and my dog is lovable"
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't see it either, but! gotta ask.
trinque: jurov: calm down buddy; I don't have the one true way
trinque: I have to run, dunno what hoon is but I'll see if I can find info on it ☟︎
trinque: mircea_popescu: what I was referring to above is like the system catalog in SQL
trinque: sure, last weekend was eaten by work, but I'll try to work it in soon
trinque: the point here is missed; I'm probably not articulating it well
trinque: I can then delete the base table and call the new materialized table the canonical data
trinque: I can also easily produce a new table which materializes the output of some view
trinque: jurov: I cannot see how it *doesn't* solve that
trinque: relational algebra is the best model I'm aware of for deriving all needed representations of data
mircea_popescu: williamdunne it's exactly what it iwas, and exactly why i asked him the question.
trinque: in the same way I declare data
trinque: I want to be able to declare into that representation of structure new structures
trinque: it needs a reflection system; I want to interrogate the system about its structure
trinque: "hm I didn't like that change I made to the system" << rollback
jurov: i have everything built as nginx OR apache(never both of them) in extra process, PHP/Perl/Python in extra process(es)
ascii_field: i was even about to use the apache (all i need is to proxy to my proggy which has own http stack) but then i find that there is no /etc/apache2
ascii_field: ok i'll bite. how do i remove apache and get nginx
mircea_popescu: the fact that i own a gas station does in no way alleviate the problem that laurel&hardy cars.
trinque: this is why I'd like a small board for the embedded space that does very little, and runs a lisp
jurov: you have your own dc last i remember
mircea_popescu: and where do i find a cl server ?
mircea_popescu: what'd i run it on ?