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punkman: maybe
a good time for
a translation of the older ones? gtranslate not doing them justice
mircea_popescu: punkman how far off do you think tyhat piece is, as
a local ?
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 20:08:22; decimation: re: political time < it occurred to me that the far more obvious way of synchronizing
a clock is to simply take note of the sunrise and/or sunset
mircea_popescu: there is aschilopat, which is
a purely nonsense word that is use to convey roughly the same notion, "invisible gross diformity worthy of pity" but it's blue collar slang mostly.
punkman: mircea_popescu: does romanian have
a word for sociopath?
trinque: I (perhaps incorrectly) take "psychopath" to be
a political term, akin to "sociopath"
trinque: that's more or less what I got from asciilifeform, that he was describing
a person which, to put it in idiot's terms "does what makes sense to him"
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 19:55:54; trinque: if he in fact has the capability, then the empathy which might cause him to accept someone else's perspective instead would only be
a hindrance
mircea_popescu: and generally, the quality of
a system is to be measured by how many people it can make life meaningful for, not how many people it has to kill to survive.
mircea_popescu: so the problem there is of management not of nature. chinese exam taker is
a great asset in any sanely balanced system.
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 19:17:10; ascii_field: '12 years public school, 4 years undergrad, 6 years PhD, 4 years post-doc. You are now over 30, deeply in debt, and starting life. Your idiot high school classmate who held
a STOP sign at
a construction site has been pulling $80K/year, has
a fine home, wife, three kids, and
a motor boat. His eldest son rakes in $850K/year tax-free facilitating recreational pharmaceuticals and an escort service.' << schw
mircea_popescu:
a matter of conventional agreementr, currently overseen by exactly usg.
mircea_popescu: decimation in any case, the time bitcoin uses is
a political construct.
assbot: Logged on 20-06-2015 19:29:12; mircea_popescu: the notion that human agency is ever "effectual" is such rank nonsense to begion with, that
a pretense of "saving action for optimal effect" can only be regarded in psychogenic terms
decimation: also describing it as 'political time' when the policy is 'matches easily observable astronomical phenomena' seems
a bit hyperbolic
☟︎ decimation: there is
a description on how to derive time by measuring the moon's motion relative to other objects in the sky
BingoBoingo is guessing that at some point Rubidium standards are going to become #b-
a coture
trinque: who gives
a shit about arbitrary distinctions such as that?
assbot: Logged on 02-02-2015 23:04:03; mircea_popescu: it was highlighted by intel about two weeks ago, and we're generally tracing it to philippines "top quality" content farms working for
a number of (mostly ct and wash based) pr firms.
trinque: cannot think of
a more vulgar mentality
ascii_field: one telling mark of
a tard is that he is unwilling to consider that market's job is not only to supply folks with things, but to REFUSE to supply them
☟︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 21:12:24; trinque: it's telling that they are not even willing to consider using, you know,
a fucking market for this
ascii_field: by promising 'tx fee ordering' as
a feature
trinque: it's telling that they are not even willing to consider using, you know,
a fucking market for this
☟︎ ascii_field: but aside from that, bidding up space in blocks by blowing one's own coin is
a perfectly legit thing to do
ascii_field: though gotta wonder if this is still fair to say re:
a gigantic sack of shit with the words 'this is spam, and fuck you' printed right on it
trinque: IF IT HAS
A FEE ATTACHED AND IS
A VALID TXN, IT'S NOT SPAM
ascii_field: (this was
a node, i must remind the reader, with no mempool, on account of having no net connection and being fed blocks 'intravenously' if you will)
shinohai: For some reason mine has dropped, but probably because I'm not connecting to
a bzillion nodes
shinohai: I am fascinated by how mircea_popescu envisioned that. I tried for well over
a year to figure out how to busybox it.
ascii_field: who was pushing
a weirdo 'cloud subscription' thing with it
shinohai: Is there
a history of the pogo somewhere?
ascii_field:
a pogo, as i envision it, has much in common with
a comm satellite
ascii_field: well, afaik the 'precise' is not publicly known. but the ancient rumour that was taught to me was that it was
a usg military propaganda trick
bagels7: i'll be your slave for
a million dollars on
a 5 year basis
☟︎ shinohai: I should say having one's throat cut invalidates
a lot of things.
ascii_field: decimation: now you have
a human slave in the loop
decimation: I donno, it strikes me that having
a sundial and knowing how to use it (convert to universal time) is
a pretty cheap counter
ascii_field: or feeding
a whole alternate universe to
a virginal (has nothing but genesis) node
ben_vulpes: aha the one where you simply hold difficulty constant and mine
a long-ass chain.
ascii_field: (will accept blocks that are not, by the traditional bitcoin rules, valid. and predicate acceptance of future blocks on these turds - which is what 'accept
a block' means)
funkenstein_: consider
a node that passes on valid TXs, checks new blocks for proper work and passes them on. it ignores timestamps and lets miners say what current difficulty is. useless or not?
ascii_field: and now compound the problem by supposing that it is not you and your best friend, but you and
a network consisting, to an unknown degree, of devils
ascii_field: say they own very poor clocks, which drift by
a second - or more - per minute.
decimation: if you have
a submarine, you probably ought to have high quality timekeeping equipment
decimation: yeah. ultimately
a thinking person can observe sunrise, sunset, set own clock (calendar might be another matter)
decimation: if usg can spam uv over
a large area for hours, then you probably have bigger problems than money
ascii_field: not only because they are not reliably detectable (rain, clouds, being in
a submarine)
decimation: perhaps the pogo should come with
a sunlight detector
ascii_field: it just has to be
a reasonably-periodic signal that all nodes can see, whose period is not affected by the aggregate hash rate, nor can be manipulated at reasonable expense by gnomes
ascii_field: anyway, since this thread came back to life, i will point out that mircea_popescu is right re: the notion of time being necessary for
a bitcoin net. but it doesn't have to come from
a clock as traditionally understood
ascii_field: (typically, abandoned mine filled with salt water and thousands of photomultiplier tubes on the walls, each the size of
a man's torso)
ascii_field: examine the construction of
a neutrino observatory.
ascii_field: and, considering the famous formula ('50/50 interactions when passing through light-year of lead') portable detector is
a questionable affair
decimation: actually it would be neat to build
a nutrino detector
decimation: re: political time < it occurred to me that the far more obvious way of synchronizing
a clock is to simply take note of the sunrise and/or sunset
☟︎ decimation: but two iq 90 parents are likely to have children that score
a little closer to 100
ascii_field: true Not Giving
A Fuck doesn't have
a plus or minus sign. it's just
a big fat zero.
trinque: if he in fact has the capability, then the empathy which might cause him to accept someone else's perspective instead would only be
a hindrance
☟︎ trinque: ascii_field: it would make
a great deal of sense to me if there were
a connection between this kind of intelligence and personality traits which cause him to have
a much lower default level of regard for any particular human off the street.
jborkl: although I have just been watching from the sideline for
a long time (not active)
jborkl: possible, there are
a ton of waiting txns either way and the spike has been recently
jborkl: The way it has been before, not all nodes have the same amount of txns in mempool - I never got enough of
a explanation to discuss it
trinque: rather, that they have
a greater capacity for ...
trinque: sure, and the former is deeply embedded in
a group concept of what he ought to be doing
ascii_field: if you must reduce it to
a soundbite - it is just
a measure of the quality of the rng in your head
trinque: ascii_field: then is it
a measure of the willingness to fight other people?
trinque: ascii_field: something like the combination of dominance and being
a social supernode?
ascii_field: interestingly, old norse, even, had
a very specific word for this trait
☟︎ ascii_field: which is the thing without which arbitrarily strong 'intelligence' ends up
a chinese exam taker
ascii_field: '12 years public school, 4 years undergrad, 6 years PhD, 4 years post-doc. You are now over 30, deeply in debt, and starting life. Your idiot high school classmate who held
a STOP sign at
a construction site has been pulling $80K/year, has
a fine home, wife, three kids, and
a motor boat. His eldest son rakes in $850K/year tax-free facilitating recreational pharmaceuticals and an escort service.' << schwartz
☟︎ trinque: mats: I am not finding
a good graph of the russian population per year, yet I recall ww2 being
a temporary blip downward that was rapidly recovered
trinque: bounces right back after the war, if there's
a dip at all
gabriel_laddel: Fukishima effluent on California's coast chews up the food chain to seals. 39 million person California, tremendously government subsidized, is collapsed. Its unsecured debt is the Saudi GNP while its $45 billion/year agriculture Central Valley has returned to desert, unemploying
a million Mexican slaves with nowhere to go. Let's run the Battle of the Somme again, and soon. The jet stream dips south in autumn." (fr
williamdunne: Security, programming, pretty much anything with
a keyboard
williamdunne: I've never received
a job by anything but reference. First job when I was 14 was
a game programmer, second job when 15 was working at
a military intelligence company in London doing some infosec and accounting type stuff. Lots of freelancing stuff