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a111: Logged on 2017-10-13 15:40 mircea_popescu:
trinque one working model : all
the nodes node 1 was connected
to decided "it is spam", because
they can do
this now, so
they didn't forward it but also didn't
tell node 1. same did not hold for node 2.
mircea_popescu: though honestly, may
take a while for it
to become a problem.
shinohai: I can't remember what I did with it lobbes .... but
there was a plugin
that let you announce a msg only
to folks subscribed
to it.
lobbes: That is a point. I can always
tweak
the announces
to be less frequent as people see fit anyways
mircea_popescu: tbh, i don't
think doing it in #trilema is either unfeasible or a bad idea.
lobbes: Also gotta figure out where auctions would happen. I'd imagine #t wouldn't be keen on
the auctions
taking place in
this channel. Would be a lot of added noise.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-13 01:55 mircea_popescu:
trinque can directly push lobbes 's bot into it, what more is needed ? we have all
the parts.
lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-13#1724782 << I am more
than willing
to make required
tweaks
to get something like
this working (allowing auctions
to be denominated in btc as well as ecu, having lobbesbot spit out deedbot invoice, etc)
☝︎ mircea_popescu: now
THIS would be some interesting ecology, of
the "keep
the world safe for your children" kind.
mircea_popescu: human problem of meta is
that humans can
think outside
the box.
they end up choking each other with
the unintentional by-products of
that
thinking.
mircea_popescu: (amusingly,
this node-sybil-pie entirely exists BECAUSE IT CAN exist.
think in GT
terms : at
t1 it doesn't exist. at
t2, player 1 figures out it could exist, whether it can or not, and
takes defensive meansures. at
t3, some bug in player1's implementation is exploited (consciously or accidentally) and now... it DOES exist.)
mod6: please do keep reporting such irregularities
though.
mircea_popescu: if you keep money and man-hours into
this, you'll eventually reach
that vaunted summit.
mircea_popescu: you'll end up with node lists, fingerprinting, mothership identification,
the whole shebang.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and EVEN IF maintaining a large (and, obviously, expensive) network of nodes etc, you can still run into surprises, as
the bitbet issue very well illustrates.
mircea_popescu: typical sybilling, happens and has happened
tons, which is why it's important
to
talk
to many nodes for payment safety.
mircea_popescu: trinque one working model : all
the nodes node 1 was connected
to decided "it is spam", because
they can do
this now, so
they didn't forward it but also didn't
tell node 1. same did not hold for node 2.
☟︎ trinque: I dunno who
to blame for
that yet
trinque: fed
to another node, went fine
trinque: mod6: I did lose a
transaction in a node's mempool
the other day using it. was clearly
there, sitting, going nowhere.
jhvh1: It is good
to be self-aware again
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nevermind
the actual implementation.
the design/concept however you call it.
trinque: if
they demolish old, muddy concepts
that's far better
than subclassing
the mud
mircea_popescu: now,
that
they should be used sparsely is certainly
true.
mod6: and please do send 'em my way when you have
time
mircea_popescu: trinque you won't be able
to fix
trb into sanity without new classes.
trinque: I do owe a few patches at
this point. btw, am using sendrawtransaction with deedbot, works so far.
trinque: mod6: I dunno how you make
the
thing intelligible while walking further into C++ madness
mod6: I dunno about perma-banned, but I do see what you mean by
that
trinque, in
this specific case.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 05:30
trinque: in
the process, realized I oughta publically denounce something in
the funkenstein importprivkey/dumpprivkey patch
mod6: ah yeah, i do have a rawtx on sitting here -- just needs
testing. also, still have some makefile changes
that are needing some
testing/review. and further, want
to put in some requested changes
to import/dump priv key.
mircea_popescu: yes, complete with
the pixelization and
the fb_img etc.
mircea_popescu: pity guy left,
totally got
teh wrong impression re
tmsr.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i
tried /invite polarbeard but * polarbeard :No such nick/channel ; anyone know him irl drop a line ?
mod6: iirc I had created a proper vpatch of
the
thing last year, but we never wrapped up all
the
testing. i'd like
to revisit
that.
mod6: speaking of
trinque's usage of polarbeard's rawtx vpatch -- im planning
to get deeper into
that
this month.
mircea_popescu: mod6 in any case don't completely abandon
the
trb-v castle, you're like our last guy
there i fear
trinque: sure, not going
to break ground on it
trinque: must also provide a web endpoint for
the archive, etc
mod6: mircea_popescu: understood. it is more a learning process
than anything at
this point.
trinque: actually mircea_popescu's solution
to forcing miners
to hold all blocks could conceivably used
to hire hosting for
the archive from whoever has space. folks register with eg deedbot, must produce hash of all archived items at interval
to receive a small bitcoin payout, flowing from subscribers
to
the archive service.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-13 15:14 asciilifeform: keep in mind
that ffa ( esp.
the more recent items ) will change.
mircea_popescu: i am loath
to put "and load
this website" into
the eg log bot spec.
mod6: it adds so much
to
the history
though. being able
to see wtf we were
talking about.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> so
there has
to be a synthetic (i.e. Unsigned_32 )
type ,
that on archs
that have narrower bitness
than
that, ends up a doubleword << ah, i see.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
theoretically it also gets
the zips. at least iirc.
mod6: unless you wanna give me access
to your drive
mod6: and Framedragger came along and did
that handy
thing and archived all
that stuff. really, can't live without
that bot.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-13 11:19 apeloyee: by
the way,
the bot which saved pastes on archive.is doesn't seem
to do it anymore.
mod6: see... i
thought so
too.. because yesterday i was digging up our conversation from august of '15 where we were looking at gnupg --
that night we had like 69 pastes.
mod6: The hope here is... when
these changes are made,
the given inputs still match
the expected outputs.
mod6: a way of doing necessary work, and forcing myself
to do
the maff at
the same
time.
mod6: that's
the aim anyway. but, yah, might find something along
the way
too.
mod6: aha,
this indeed may be
the case - something found. but
the main interest "does it do what it ~should~ do, given
these inputs"
mod6: to understand
the
thing, one can simply do
the: B ^ ((S - 1) & (A ^ B)) on a calc
mod6: the fz_mux wasn't
too bad, etc.
mod6: well,
they're hopefully clear enough
to be understood.
mod6: so,
that's what I'm spending
time on now anyway. and, making good progress in a short amount of
time. however, ya, many gaps i msure.