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snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 16:26:10 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939609 << dug up a source this this and it's pretty interesting. apparently the papal idjits lost china very similarly to how lost japan.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939660 << for my own archival needs i am satisfied the pope didn't so much "lose" china as... got to keep italy (and most of the old spanish possessions).
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 14:05:26 mod6: asciilifeform: I don't see a reason to keep it up, because it isn't being used. Let's let mircea_popescu weigh in on this though. Anyway, I'm totally fine if you want to invoice the foundation for what you spent on it.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/0a4-targoviste.html << The Tar Pit -- Trgovite
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 13:52:44 asciilifeform: ( hey spies, y'know you can simply read the log ? )
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939649 << maybe shit's just too incredible to be taken on faith, gotta sit here see the magic happen to believe.
lobbes: but indeed, top priority for me right now is getting mircea_popescu's bot complete. Hopefully fleanode weather + data center gnomes will be kind in the meantime
lobbes: In the meantime I stopped by spyked's castle to see if maybe he has a pill I'm not aware of for the cl-bot, since I'm pretty unversed in all things lisp
lobbes: asciilifeform: yeah, I'm seriously considering swapping the "base" bot with yours at some point. Reconnect issues are a veritable plague for running an auction house (refunds are one thing, but in BingoBoingo's case, for e.g., I know he's depending on auctions closing on schedule in order to pay bills)
asciilifeform: ( might want to do this eventually -- the old bot jams )
asciilifeform: lobbes: pretty neat. ( and you could prolly shorten it substantially by replacing the old cl bot with mine, but iirc you have a full plate w/ mp's wptronic item atm )
lobbes: back up; auction extended so it ends at roughly same time tomorrow as it should have ended today.
asciilifeform: lobbes: it aint a replacement for the manifest knob. specifically wanted mechanism where can ask bot whichthefuck bot it is.
lobbes: oh, so the intention is to update that version # only if changing the bot.py? I assumed it was to be updated even if just changing the reader.py, for e.g.
asciilifeform: lobbes: imho it really aint too much to ask, for folx to mark version in the piece being altered, considering that bot has own version (changes moar rarely than reader)
lobbes wonders if it is worth it in next patch to have bot.py simply parse the MANIFEST.txt for version number emitting
asciilifeform: lol bvt you fughot to turn the version knob
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers : about to rotate in new bot ; expect ~45s of dead time. 3... 2... 1..
asciilifeform: bvt: ty! will eat
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Issue with an upstream switch is the report.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 11:48:49 BingoBoingo: In local stories of national import eclipsing debate the "bocas de drogas" have been obsoleted by "PorritosYa", https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Sospechan-que-grupo-narco-instalo-delivery-de-drogas-en-pleno-centro-de-Montevideo-uc731479
asciilifeform: re now deemed illegal. Now, the trouble was the folks at the Monticello Foundation, which preserves and maintains the historic site, were discovered flagrantly continuing Jefferson's crimes. The agents were blunt: The poppies had to be immediately uprooted and destroyed or else they were going to start making arrests, and Monticello Foundation personnel would perhaps face lengthy stretches in prison...'
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939633 << in related dope oddities : 'Thomas Jefferson was a drug criminal. But he managed to escape the terrible sword of justice by dying a century before the DEA was created. In 1987 agents from the Drug Enforcement Agency showed up at Monticello, Jefferson's famous estate. Jefferson had planted opium poppies in his medicinal garden, and opium poppies a
asciilifeform: * for this
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 02:25:07 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile, in things chinese thought, "Reading this proclamation, I have concluded that the Westerners are petty indeed. It is impossible to reason with them because they do not understand larger issues as we understand them in China. There is not a single Westerner versed in Chinese works, and their remarks are often incredible and ridiculous. To judge from this proclamation, their religion is no different from o
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939609 << dug up a source this this and it's pretty interesting. apparently the papal idjits lost china very similarly to how lost japan.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aite, lemme know if there's update , and keep prodding'em
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They are watching the situation going to poking again now
mod6: Invoices to be directed to jurov, he pays them out.
mod6: asciilifeform: I don't see a reason to keep it up, because it isn't being used. Let's let mircea_popescu weigh in on this though. Anyway, I'm totally fine if you want to invoice the foundation for what you spent on it.
asciilifeform: wb trinque
asciilifeform: mod6: cuz if so, i'ma start invoicing for it, the price keeps steadily creeping up
asciilifeform: mod6: re tbf : the '833 TMSR BTC' thing has cost 400+ usd to date, but seems to never have been used. do you want to keep it up ?
asciilifeform: i suspect they've a ms-excel plugin for irc , but not for log parsing, or somesuch lul
asciilifeform: ( hey spies, y'know you can simply read the log ? )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939628 << seems to lurk in #a too. perhaps the current enemy spy, i have nfi
mod6: Hey all, here's the Foundation statement for September: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2019-October/000339.html
asciilifeform: hey BingoBoingo didja ever get an answer outta'em re the last time ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 03:41:29 diana_coman: bvt: no worries; I'll first just make the changes, deploy and see how it keeps on; though it took ossabot ~10 days before it fell down at all.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939617 << this is how i ended up with an almost entirely broken reconnector for 40d, lol
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 04:37:11 bvt: will regrind once again later today
asciilifeform: will wait for bvt's reissue, otherwise tomorrow will do it with own hands.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 03:13:54 diana_coman: bvt: ah, I had this niggling thought that there *was* some patch I missed somehow; asciilifeform what was it with this/why didn't it make it into the sept vpatch?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939614 << coarse error of pilotage on my part. was convinced it was in my sequence, even thought 'oh hey reconnect nao actually worx' the other day.
BingoBoingo: In local stories of national import eclipsing debate the "bocas de drogas" have been obsoleted by "PorritosYa", https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Sospechan-que-grupo-narco-instalo-delivery-de-drogas-en-pleno-centro-de-Montevideo-uc731479
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/drei-hacken-undt-hings/ << Trilema -- Drei Hacken undt Hings
diana_coman: bvt: ping please when you regrind as I will sign it and mirror it too, thank you.
bvt: will regrind once again later today
bvt: spyked: that was for the pre-writeup vpatch release, the one published with a writeup was reground to the head of that time
mp_en_viaje: bvt, regrind it on the current head plox, and before someone comes up with another patch so you get the first signature on your own thing plox
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-13 11:21:57 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-13#1935883 << bvt you will need to regrind, you left out yesterday's patch from yer sequence
spyked: hm, earliest I see on that is asciilifeform's http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-13#1935924
mp_en_viaje: ya srsly, why did that get by the wayside.
diana_coman: bvt: no worries; I'll first just make the changes, deploy and see how it keeps on; though it took ossabot ~10 days before it fell down at all.
bvt: it will need regrind now though
diana_coman: bvt: ty, I'll give it a try.
diana_coman: bvt: ah, I had this niggling thought that there *was* some patch I missed somehow; asciilifeform what was it with this/why didn't it make it into the sept vpatch?
bvt: diana_coman: this should have been fixed here: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/09/logotron-active-disconnect-vpatch/ , please give it a spin; iirc it did not get into sept_fixes vpatch
diana_coman: hm, ossabot is stuck with "WARNING [Errno 106] Transport endpoint is already connected"
mp_en_viaje: m or Taoism. I have never seen a document which contains so much nonsense. From now on, Westerners should not be allowed to preach in China, to avoid further trouble."
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile, in things chinese thought, "Reading this proclamation, I have concluded that the Westerners are petty indeed. It is impossible to reason with them because they do not understand larger issues as we understand them in China. There is not a single Westerner versed in Chinese works, and their remarks are often incredible and ridiculous. To judge from this proclamation, their religion is no different from other small, bigoted sects of Buddhis
lobbes: k, got the latest logotron patch applied. asciilifeform: I've also read through and signed said patch
lobbes: bot hell today! /me goes off to apply latest stan-logotron patch
lobbes: ugh now I need to update by ericbot to asciilifeform's new patch. Above echo from #pizarro ^^^
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-01 17:20:15 lobbes_field: I can extend the auction for the downtime. Will make note not to charge for downtime hours as well (even though auction billing is still in suspended state)
lobbes: in any case, auction 1061 NOT ended, but extended 18 hours to make up for outage time
lobbes: ah shit, I know what happened; bot dropped but backend kept going, and sent the "END" message to the outbox table. I need to remember to clear that before brining bot back online after outages
mp_en_viaje: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/mp-wp-bot-work-plan-week-4/#comment-125 << this is not even altogether a meritless issue, "how and when to rationally merge trees"
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/10/01/overview-of-local-politics-as-the-election-approaches-pre-debate-edition/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Overview Of Local Politics As The Election Approaches Pre-Debate Edition
BingoBoingo: A bit more than an hour remains before te first Uruguayan presidential debate in 25 years.
asciilifeform aint by any rights qualified to design a schloss, cuz 'never inverted 10k x 10k matrix'
mp_en_viaje: my cr place is about there. it's not THAT big.
asciilifeform: well asciilifeform never 1ce lived in anyffing remotely approaching 500 sqm, so possibly aint one to talk.
mp_en_viaje: your total usable floor space is not going to be over 500 sqm or so.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: came with 4 diesels , and i dun suppose the reactor gets sold at any rate. but if mp_en_viaje says 'too small', then too small, who am i to say.
mp_en_viaje: and a third of it has to be a nuclear reactor. i don't fucking want to have to operate a (marine!) nuclear reactor.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, re typhoons : they're a 23x12meter oval 170ish meters long. this is fucking tiny wtf.
BingoBoingo: The actual ferrocement structural components aside from the elevator shaft don't seem to be particularly limiting with respect to the floor layouts.
mp_en_viaje: to be fair my design is so early i don't even have anything definite worth the mention. so perhaps.
BingoBoingo: I suspect the reinforced concrete mid-rise tower would make decent bones for a near-ideal design. I've been watching one of these go up in the backyard. It's just a shame the floors always get divided in such equalitarian manners.
asciilifeform: e.g. sovok 'type 941' is almost what you'd want (iirc 7 decks) size-wise. but prolly bad deal for same reason as the austrian thing.
mp_en_viaje: these schloss things are more like overgrown bed&breakfast in practice, and i don't intend to run a motel.
mp_en_viaje: re submariens, no, i meant flat as in social hierarchy. commander's quarters aren't 100x the surface of midshipman.
mp_en_viaje: imo ideal design is more like 7 floors, going -3 dungeon -2 storage -1 garage 0 receiving 1 master's bedrooms 2 harem 3 servants 4 pools and amenties / terrace
asciilifeform: not that flat (assuming comment is re org chart) , there's traditionally no fewer than 3 level
mp_en_viaje: not at all, submarine's tight and unpleasant because NECESSARILY flat.
mp_en_viaje: and as you can see from the shots, all the furniture can simply be thrown out, who the fuck wants a tub looks like an overlarge vase.
asciilifeform: (where'll you get the deck hands?)
mp_en_viaje: you'd want dungeons, you'd want communal quarters for the plebs, you'd want all sorts of things.
asciilifeform: prolly needs dozen+ just to maintain as a passable museum
mp_en_viaje: which is part of the problem -- such an item is a terrible design for a working lordly manor, because very ineptly tiered to an overtly equalitarian flatworld.
asciilifeform: aha. i was thinking of even skeleton crew.
mp_en_viaje: if you're entertaining though, you'll need cooks, scullery maids, fluffers, cocksuckers, bedwarmers an' everything else.
asciilifeform would expect it'd need at least dozen pairs of hands to keep from looking like tutankhamon's dusty tomb. but not expert
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, from experience, an item like depicted would take about a baker's dozen to dozen-an-half slavegirls dedicated to the premises.
mp_en_viaje: afaik only a dozen or so of those were ever built
asciilifeform: returning to BingoBoingo's q tho, just how many hands does it take to fully crew a 40room thing ?
asciilifeform: they've convenient flat tops, too, could prolly get to it at 300mph in chopper..
mp_en_viaje: if not possible, then a) not schloss and b) 50% discount indisputably
mp_en_viaje: i ain't talking about bullshit rural nonsense, i want to get there at 120mph