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mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a very readily obvious and openly available method to not have to suffer the indignities of the defeated.
trinque: so this guy cut his dick off to land a TV series?
ag3nt_zer0: given that the suicide rate is like 10 times higher if you are by "nature" transgender, I have this sick thought that it would be epic if I am Cait ended with a self inflicted shotgun blast to the head...
mircea_popescu: well you'd feel a lot different if you were a lobster
chetty: MP just might feel a little different if he were female
mircea_popescu: what, like the us is killing a buncha ukrainians for same ?
trinque: it's really sad. reported as a pair of perverts because gasp, a 4 year old saw
chetty: well if the news can be believed they are killing a lot of christians in the ME for not converting ...
trinque: chetty: sounds like a defense problem
trinque: as for the sharia thing, they play that a lot in the "right" leaning news here
ag3nt_zer0: ok. does not Sharia Law conflict in a number of ways with the western "liberty traditon"?
ag3nt_zer0: I mean I like the mexicans tacos for sure but the culture doesnt respect education in the same way... so there is a clash there
ag3nt_zer0: I think Mark Steyn said multiculturalism is a unicultural phenomena
ag3nt_zer0: Here it becomes simply a term that excuses all of that shit I described
mircea_popescu: "the states" isn't a special place where the derps can get 5 to be an transcendental if they so agree.
ag3nt_zer0: I struggle to see how cultural relativism, multiculturalism as manisfest in states, offers any sort of couldn't-do-without-benefit to the western civilizational heritage... It seems to be manifested as a hugely destructive and degenerative force in US regarding everything from lowered national debate standards to laxed educational standards, erosion of free speech, critical theory where it doesn't really belong, poltical
mircea_popescu: threats are a serious matter. expecially on the internets!
phf: well, it was naive of me to expect a b-a game to be mindless ;)
mircea_popescu: then again, i don't give a shit about most people.
mircea_popescu: phf which is why it's fun - actually fun. because you gotta find a way. it's too complex to effectually model even, at least so far, so therefore what bots.
fluffypony: which of you said he isn't a troll?
fluffypony: yeah, and he's a nice enough guy, had fun drinking with him in Berlin
mircea_popescu: had the longest standing debate with hanbot, whether he's a superellaborate troll or what.
mircea_popescu: there's no level cap either, you can craft anything as a noob.
phf: seems like if i wanted to find them, i might as well write a bot that would do random walk, then explore, etc. let it run for a day. though that will cost me in pick quality. hmm
mircea_popescu: and it has little to dowith bottage, it becomes a time arbitrage - if bots are prevented chinese farms will do it by hand
mircea_popescu: but basically, from a player pov, the economy is elastic enough you can choose. you wish to risk 100 coppers per click, do X. you wish to risk 10k per click, no need to do X 100 times, can just as well do Y.
phf: i'm thinking i don't know enough about how eulora world works to say much. you mentioned that people are mapping mining locations, but then i tried searching for mushrooms around a location where i found them previously and couldn't find any
phf: it seems like a tricky balance between integrity and fun. i've not thought about this enough, but it seems the more integrity you have in game the more you gain by not actually directly playing the game
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo mind that you need a specific one.
phf: 3d jiggle technologies have gone a long way
mircea_popescu: phf or for that matter wow style "rares" which everyone has. wtf is achievement even supposed to mean outside of a scarcity world.
CrazyLoafer: just a crypto investor; saw a mention of this site and wanted to check it out
mircea_popescu: not even the funding model, it deliberately has a strong currency for purely game design concerns
phf: it's very much a scarcity world
mircea_popescu: anyway, the current eulora problem as far as miners are concerned is : there's a single shot very powerful mining tool, which seems like the oinly hope to acquire essential resources choking toolmaking and cooking. since these are in short supply, people are working to make a map of known resources, so as to explore the unknown spots
mircea_popescu: phf yeah the helpfile as bundled with the client is a mess atm.
phf: i started with help, but there wasn't even a mention of mining, and some of the commands that are in help are not implemented (e.g. /dig)
phf: i saw someone's tent so i assume that was possible, but a ship
mircea_popescu: you folk haven't even built a ship yet!
phf: well, that was my first eulora drama, came back to find my future fortune literally crumble to little bits o' nothing. tracked the coordinates, explored.. nothing. literally feels like i just frantically dug a bunch of earth looking for wooly mushrooms that are no longer there
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mod6: ok, i was just gonna do a quick `xxd <file> | less` and look at 'em side by side.
mod6: Anyway, yah, will take a look when search comes back.
mod6: and I'll find a new ascii art instead of the jolly roger ;)
asciilifeform: a mistake that is owned up to, before it sinks any ships - can perhaps be accepted as a mistake, and forgiven ☟︎
mod6: it does help. i often have to come back to it like a day later and re-read my own stuff for the 9th time.
asciilifeform: to see if made a mistake.
asciilifeform: i also have a habit, of compulsively re-reading own patches
trinque: should be a simple switch to flip in main.cf
mod6: i thought so too. and it's a credit to my trust of asciilifeform that I verify his signature, and we have a L1 trust between us.
asciilifeform: feel free to use a different graphic if the old 'jolly roger' has gotten boring
mod6: I've tested it, trinque has tested it, but we need a third party to independantly verify so I know what I'm publishing there is as correct as it can be.
mod6: I see, we just have a bit different view of the thing. I only wanna send stuff in that I can pretty much stand behind.
asciilifeform: (imho a 'feature, not bug')
mod6: That's fair if it has a disclaimer.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pay it a visit, log in, see if spot anybody you know...
asciilifeform: presently 47 connections, incl. a bunch of cn, interestingly
asciilifeform: a signature from a reasonably literate wot face, 'i read this and it made sense', is worth something.
asciilifeform: can sign and say 'this is a bad idea', note
mircea_popescu: <mod6> I have created a simple build script << you may consider signing some of the things you pull
decimation: yes, openssl had a dynamic library loader flag
ag3nt_zer0: decimation: thanks. guess I should make that a habit before posting here...
ag3nt_zer0: at the time I was all zigzagged about Trilema and so I asked him if he had heard of it... he scanned the files that the eye accesses when it looks down/right and there was a spark... he said "what's that?"... I said "dunno, run by this guy Mircea something or other"... he said "oh, that guy doesnt like me"... later he asked for my number and when he pulled out his phone I saw his name was Tim Swanson
mod6: This is all leading up to a new "patching guide" that I'm working on. Which is basically finished, save the fact I've yet to decide which direction to go on the build script. On one hand, I really love how simple and clean stator.sh is, but with auto.sh, I like how it automatically pulls the archives for you and creates the directories. etc.
mod6: I have created a simple build script that will pull all of the patches, verify them, apply the patches at the top of the file. Along with anything else that was required.
cazalla: decimation, they had a bus for the high school i attended and when i got sent to naughty boy school i was given a train ticket which provide free travel (which was self defeating in that i no longer had to jump the train but could now ride legit for free lol)
mircea_popescu: tried to track it with a node, it resulted in a stuck node 0.O
mod6: So over the weekend and today, was working on building a new gentoo-amd64-nomultilib (glibc) instance to test out application of patches with v0.5.3.1-RELEASE as the base. Was able to build static binaries with gentoo & glibc just fine with both a modified auto-static (auto.sh) and with a slightly modified stator.sh script.
decimation: cazalla: most us towns - even little cities - have a massive bus infrastructure just to take kids to and from school - and nobody else
cazalla: taking the bus to school such a strange concept.. i use to ride my bmx doing bunny hops and all sorts along the way
decimation: cazalla: Obama's a lame duck, the most he can do is hand out goodies so that democrats show up to vote next time
asciilifeform: recall mr mold: 'my daughter's preschool is literally in a ruin - that is, a (nicely renovated) space which used to be part of a Catholic church. (The preschool is the former convent. The rest of the church remains a ruin proper.) Where are the people who used to pray in this church? They fled. Why? Because they were afraid for their physical safety.'
trinque: cazalla: heh I got bussed as a white kid to the shittier public school back in the day for the same reason
trinque: ask for a dollar, and then write down the "no" response?
decimation: maryland, for instance, has a 'poor people health insurance' where they are required to pay $1, if they can afford it
trinque: my family goes back to a big italian clan that moved over in I think the 30s or so
mircea_popescu: eh for chrissakes. you and your wife going on a cruise does not now constitute an "english culture" in oceania.
asciilifeform: and a number of others
punkman: swaks is a crazy perl script for smtp testing, it works.
asciilifeform: ends with the obligatory [install nsa's ] 'Update the BIOS whenever there is a security patch'
asciilifeform: 'The attack leverages a three-year-old vulnerability in Microsoft Windows Common Controls CVE-2012-015 which is addressed in MS12-027.'
asciilifeform: i advise all folk in usa with a spare twenty to get that box spoken of earlier
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for phf from 1 to 2 with note: Actually managed to compile Eulora on OS/X, which is a first.
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mircea_popescu: !rate phf 2 Actually managed to compile Eulora on OS/X, which is a first.
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trinque: sure that might be a factor
trinque: but that was a nice thing about Texan (sub)culture
mircea_popescu: yeah well, here's the thing : the variable you are likely calling this is a direct inverse of graph connectivity.
mircea_popescu: tho even that may be a stretch
trinque: if there's a github, there's a community
trinque: if there's a facebook group for it, it's a culture
trinque: just a matter of words meaning whatever ya like
mircea_popescu: the original concept is merely commentary, on lengthy extant tradition, and it stands on its own as a perfectly sensible term of art in its field.
trinque: like in portland you can come to work at a software company as a male with a skirt on and your nails done, no shoes on, so long as you shut the fuck up and work
trinque: hm, it's like in the place where culture might develop, they've placed a culture-shredder
mircea_popescu: trinque and that's what multiculturalism actually is, ftr. given that it is SO COMPLICATED to have a cultural superstructure that allows any semblance of passible solution to that, and given that any sort of formal proof of superiority and inferiority ~AMONG THAT SET~, strictly, strictly among that set is so hopeless,
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo on the positive side, all good things ever come out of an ill equipped kid stuck in a blender.