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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'costco', for u.s. folks. sorta like a meatspace 'amazon prime' << used to shop at their equiv in ro. "selgros".
ag3nt_zer0: it would be cool if readers in this group had a "Recommended readings" list or something... that would be awesome actually
asciilifeform: but point taken. there is actually a mega-lulzy ru film about a captive ru derp used as 'computermaster' by chechens
mircea_popescu: <mats> NATO would also presumably be happy to sell their enemies ammo for the right price << god knows romania has been doing it for a decade straight.
mircea_popescu: of their time (at their prime, that is), on their own. << in no way did they do this. they merely went around with a horde of gypsies, chinese, etc. heck, the siege of byzantium used a hungarian cannonmaster.
mircea_popescu: in other news : i am satisfied that the 363730 fork and the 363730-363736 dead chain contain nothing remarkable from a "hey guise they switched out the blokchanin" perspective. so i'm letting this rest.
ag3nt_zer0: whats a pr013? proletariat?
asciilifeform: 'costco', for u.s. folks. sorta like a meatspace 'amazon prime'
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: splendid, went to a kind of groceries shop where pr0l3z are not permitted (costs a hundy/yr to enter)
ag3nt_zer0: "While Western mathematicians often claim Western mathematics is universal, anti-racist mathematics and ethnomathematics scholars share the assumption that any given mathematical understanding or practice is a product of a particular culture.[4] Scholars such as C. K. Raju have advocated multicultural mathematics, in which different cultures can develop different forms of mathematics."
danielpbarron: funny too because I have tail -f ~/.bitcoin/debug.log going 24/7 but as a way of monitoring it
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1201767 << if you have a usd-denominated bank account, it probably does not matter through which channels you turn btc into usd ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i mean, yes, bitpay is a usg op << My impression is BitPay is under such constraints because born insufficiently USG, now merely avoiding a Shreming
trinque: no one ever busted up a piss-odorous santa ringing his bell outside walmart
trinque: I can toss a 50 into the goodwill box anonymously, but not BTC
trinque: well I'm not sure, is there a sort of AML/KYC equivalent for donations?
asciilifeform: i mean, yes, bitpay is a usg op
trinque: these are a bunch of twitter-posting imbeciles with AKs
trinque: and then held down a vast empire with a sane legal system and so on
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 22:54:38; trinque: mongols had a khan
mod6: BingoBoingo: i was kinda thinkin the same thing, could be a market for someone to just ship a drive ready to go.
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 22:54:23; pete_dushenski: instead they have -dozens- of fiefdoms, all pledging allegiance to an ideology and a black flag
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1201562 << those folks have 'ideology' like a forest fire does. ☝︎
trinque: that was a lulzy job; worked on software for those ebay pawn shops
BingoBoingo: Also configure at home seems like a nice alternative to cpanel dedibortion or vps.
asciilifeform: i can think of a few cases where it makes sense, but is this one ?
BingoBoingo: Most of these services seem to have a daily charge for troubleshooting with their KVM adapters
asciilifeform: not sure where you'd get a mobo that fits in the original case without looking odd
BingoBoingo: Seems a sensible precaution.
BingoBoingo: Would use to run many-connections bitcoin node plus services, and maybe a couple static html pages
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well I'm looking at services like this http://macstadium.com/colo and a few other options that go down to $25-26, but so far this one has the least objectional terms
asciilifeform: you will not be connecting a tele-kvm to this thing - unless your colo has the serial port kind
asciilifeform: down sides include a total absence of video
trinque: seems otherwise like a good snag of amd hardware
BingoBoingo getting tempted into a mac mini by cheap machine spacific colo offers
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al: that's approx. the correct price for a machine of that type and vintage, if one buys from a local scrap dealer
BingoBoingo contemplating blasphemy and getting a "late model" mac
trinque: I wonder if a local tech company went under
trinque: claims it lived in a climate-controlled data center its whole life
cazalla: "Neither Alexis nor I created reddit to be a bastion of free speech, but rather as a place where open and honest discussion can happen: These are very complicated issues, and we are putting a lot of thought into it." bit of a contradiction eh
BingoBoingo: I know that is a fucking steal.
gernika: BingoBoingo I paid roughly 7x for a similar configuration (new)
trinque: price is a little oddly low
trinque: seems like a decent box for bitcoin dev and other projects
gribble: The public burning of Bob Beck on Trilema - A blog by Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/the-public-burning-of-bob-beck>; The sharp friar and the golden jew discuss your options on Trilema ...: <http://trilema.com/the-sharp-friar-and-the-golden-jew-discuss-your-options>; "I saw, and was saddened." on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/i-saw-and-was-saddened>
pete_dushenski: anyways, i'm off. don't be surprised if this convo makes it into a post :D
trinque: I had this incredibly vivid dream years ago of a city which denied access based on some mechanism (undefined in the dream) of verifying identity and relationship to those dwelling within
pete_dushenski: trinque for sure, because those 'westerners' are a bunch of blinded sheep who could use a good raping
trinque: and I could still imagine a world where I don't care
pete_dushenski: and it'll take more than a generation, or even a hundred, to change our defaults
trinque: might very well be that something like ISIS will kill a great many "westerners" in the future
pete_dushenski: protecting yourself used to be a physical issue.
pete_dushenski: under your defensive technology is a satellite colony orbiting the earth
trinque: mongols had a khan ☟︎
pete_dushenski: instead they have -dozens- of fiefdoms, all pledging allegiance to an ideology and a black flag ☟︎
pete_dushenski: trinque i mean hey, if isis were going the centralised route, don't you think they'd have a king or ruler already ?
phf: ben_vulpes: eventually, aha. i'm not even sure yet that i can repeat the process. for example part of build process is a script that chooses between gcc-4.6 and clang based on whether it's .c or .mm. the fact that the result links i think is a miracle
trinque: they're not going to build a working empire when they're done
decimation: tribalism is in the bones over there, I find it unlikely that a political entity could centralize power effectively
trinque: isis is a cargo cult thinking allah will bring them more russian or american weapons if they piss in the wind some more
trinque: let me put it this way: if something doesn't come along that could squash an ISIS in a moment, that's on us.
pete_dushenski: trinque sorry, you're saying that isis is a nuisance that'll be wiped out if they get too uppity ??
trinque: I bet central americans had a great deal of "will" too
trinque: they're a nuisance and if they become anything more they'll all be killed
pete_dushenski: trinque well, the west's 'science' is a largely (if not entirely) a lot of fluff 'epidemiology'
pete_dushenski: it won't take a generation if the saudi's run out of oil money
decimation: mainly because nobody can convince themselves to give enough of a shit
decimation: pete_dushenski: not really, it's quite simple, they would fall to a single marine division if on the field in open battle
decimation: if there's a threat to saudi rule - it's their own stomachs: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/07/saudis-solar-energy/395315/
trinque: those seem to be perpetually beating war drums against eachother; perhaps ISIS is a complicating factor in that situation which none want to approach lest they unbalance the former
trinque: I am not a scholar on the subject, but it seems as an outsider that the major factors are Saudi, Iran and Israel
trinque: just a lovely landscape
pete_dushenski: but isis has a sufficiently powerful 'why' that their soldiers are cheap and oh so very cut throat
pete_dushenski: a couple anyways.
pete_dushenski: mats lol. now helping the enemy win is a victory !
pete_dushenski: he could -maybe- throw a wrench in some up and coming social media app. maybe..
ascii_field: missed as in, was vaguely aware and didn't give a flying fuck
Adlai: one of those was a typo
Adlai: exactly. i ratted the guy out in front of the group, it was a little hilarious
trinque: a miniscule amount
mats: smells like a trap
ben_vulpes: phf: didja grunt out a script or something else i could try?
mircea_popescu: nah, that block was a single tx.
ascii_field: incidentally, there's never been a better time to open a zoo of these
gernika: <+mircea_popescu> by now a multitude of people have copies, of that chain. << got it. switched to another node and now syncing.
mircea_popescu: but the truth, in general, is that closed systems have a very short shelf life. you can get away with it for a matter of years, maybe, if you're very good at managing it. not decades.
ascii_field: if it was written by a phriend, i would love to see him among our number here.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi where i'd be had b-a never happened and foundation never happened and etc, trying to make sense of this situation
mircea_popescu: yeah you know what, this work actually made a difference.
ascii_field: afaik i'm the only one actually running a public-facing realbitcoinotron
ascii_field: i still have a 0.8, it runs
mircea_popescu: ascii_field not fully understood yet, but it seems to exploit a buffer overflow in their own fucktarded code.
mircea_popescu: relatedly : i am reasonably satisfied the ~950 kb single tx a few days ago was trying its best to make pre 0.10 clients unable to verify the chain anymore.
mircea_popescu: by now a multitude of people have copies, of that chain.
thestringpuller: #b-a labeled gasenwagens?
ascii_field: perhaps folks who are '! downed' will slide, literally, down a chute.
trinque: so there is a central point which can reject the key in the future
trinque: so it is a centralized problem
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 19:56:20; trinque: ascii_field: was imagining a futuristic city with access controls based on WoT standing in response to chetty's comments about islam and violence
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1201280 << this appears in, among other places, 'beneath a steel sky'. ☝︎