asciilifeform: entirely different mechanism.

asciilifeform: cheapola.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you're prolly seeing the model-M 122.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: nope.

asciilifeform: i'll take 10 plox

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: where for 100 ?!

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that link is gold. ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-15#1452834 << l0l! 'We all know of that one person in the military that has "That Spouse" the one's who think they are entitled to the whole world, who don't have do do anything but eat twinkies and make babies. Floors cluttered with old diapers and wrappers from 6 day old cheeseburgers. Well... we got one, and we're happily giving her back to you.' << dependapotamus !!11 ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-15#1452822 << lulzily, i own the box being whined about ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-15#1452820 << ahahahaha, 'Pai ca s-a luat de-una Elena / Ucenica la Igiena' (tm) (r) ! ☝︎

asciilifeform: waahwat

asciilifeform: this is what i gather from 5m of read.

asciilifeform: and now 25m of these are to be, by royal decree, forfeited to the usg crown

asciilifeform: and parked them in above-mentioned bankz

asciilifeform: preet proclaims that various derps impersonated officers of some ameriderp co. and led away 100 mil usd.

asciilifeform: cyprus, latvia, hongkong, hungary, slovakia, estonia.

asciilifeform: most of the dough isn't anywhere near usa

asciilifeform: the docket title.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that was the actual case !

asciilifeform: who, me

asciilifeform: it winz.

asciilifeform: yeah but i love the title.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo / qntra ^^ ?

asciilifeform: https://cryptome.org/2016/04/talan-001.pdf << Preeeeeeeet!111111

asciilifeform: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. CERTAIN FUNDS ON DEPOSIT IN VARIOUS ACCOUNTS DETAILED HEREIN, AND ALL FUNDS TRACEABLE THERETO Defendants-in-rem.

asciilifeform: in other noose,

asciilifeform: FUCK ISO

asciilifeform: >> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-12-04 <<

asciilifeform: no in-q-tel in there !

asciilifeform: not same page !

asciilifeform: no

asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes sadly i dun think i qualify

asciilifeform: l0l ben_vulpes lulzy work ad

asciilifeform: yeah but how do you decide whether it's an isotronic one or old-style to be redirected.

asciilifeform: no redirects because how do you process, e.g., 03-04-...

asciilifeform: why do we care about iso ?

asciilifeform: and ftr i have nfi why the date format needed monkeying with.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/?date=12-04-2015

asciilifeform: that was 2015 link

asciilifeform: i think phf's bot is under repair or sumthing.

asciilifeform: try it.

asciilifeform: ^ this loads TODAY's log

asciilifeform: hm.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015 << enjoy.

asciilifeform: for FUCKS sake

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/12-04-2015 and http://btcbase.org/log/04-12-2015 BOTH DEAD

asciilifeform: see logz.

asciilifeform: except here.

asciilifeform: yeah i never bothered to write it up

asciilifeform: but the journaderps linked.

asciilifeform: i wasn't whining about BingoBoingo , except by mistake

asciilifeform: 'Yet among the 38 previously undisclosed companies receiving In-Q-Tel funding' << false, they were all disclosed in the tax document i dissected HERE

asciilifeform: 'THE CIA IS INVESTING IN FIRMS THAT MINE YOUR TWEETS AND INSTAGRAM PHOTOS'

asciilifeform: in the 'intercept' link, i mean

asciilifeform: 'accident', 'irrelevant', aha.

asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2016/04/docker-on-list-of-companies-taking-quiet-cia-funding << INCIDENTALLY no acknowledgement of my investigative thread in #b-a re ALL of the interesting in-q-tel firms

asciilifeform: or is it more of a general snore

asciilifeform: shinohai: wat'd he do

asciilifeform: and where the hell has ben_vulpes been slummin'

asciilifeform: phf: holy fuck who are those clowns

asciilifeform was just in a marina. long story.

asciilifeform: adlai: my only advice is that you should work on finding something you ~like~ to work with

asciilifeform: you can't distil entropy from where it does not exist, with von n

asciilifeform: e.g., 101010101010 will simply end up 000000

asciilifeform: it only removes reasonably-uniform bias

asciilifeform: PeterL: more complicated than this. play with the von neumann algo, it is not magical

asciilifeform: does not mean one ought to generate key with it ?

asciilifeform: everyone also has an arse

asciilifeform: and yes, yes, 'everyone has dice' ☟︎

asciilifeform: but it is NOT a substitute for modern electric rng

asciilifeform: yes, it is better than using one's mother's name or 'head' (see http://www.loper-os.org/bad-at-entropy/manmach.html for which sense)

asciilifeform: something always struck me as very http://trilema.com/2013/the-danger-of-homebrew-crypto - ish about dice-genning keys

asciilifeform: for the record,

asciilifeform: $up PeterL

asciilifeform bbl, food

asciilifeform: mod6: i saw it. not particularly useful.

asciilifeform: pit - is deep.

asciilifeform: then i went off into my pit to produce a cstron.

asciilifeform: we settled, iirc, that whoever shows up with ~working~ widget, gets the prize.

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: because it is not time.

asciilifeform: mod6: i must point out that i was not paid

asciilifeform: so long as diffie-hellman problem stands up, cs stands.

asciilifeform: i personally do not have one.

asciilifeform: (the utter inefficacy of all of the padding schemes, hence cs)

asciilifeform: there is the one thing.

asciilifeform: (rsa? cs?)

asciilifeform: would help also to nail down the exact cryptomechanics of a viable 'iB'

asciilifeform: i recall this. it is rather like 'cruiser aurora', bottom - is of cement

asciilifeform: my understanding is that this role, to the extent it was filled by anything, was previously filled by mpb.

asciilifeform: (not all are interesting to all folks)

asciilifeform: and did not bother to describe all of them here

asciilifeform: i keep a number of'em around

asciilifeform: in the past i referred to such items as 'parachute'

asciilifeform: sorta the 19th c. variant of the specificity-of-diddling thing.

asciilifeform: the one risk is that folks might get carried away with the 'belts and suspenders' and write some very slow code (where there are type predicated on everything, etc.)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: considering that ada uses no peculiar ('functional') abstractions, and is pretty much a c with 'bdsm'-restrictive pointer mechanics and hard bounds checking - the nock thing is not in the mix

asciilifeform: this will depend on ~people~

asciilifeform: ah you were thinking of complexity collapse.

asciilifeform: it builds to a traditional binary, like any other gcc.