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mp_en_viaje: pro-environment ecologically-minded left, amirite, in all
times and places
the principal producer of pollution in
this world.
mp_en_viaje: the rms/ers/retardsonwheels brushing it under
the rug, "oh, you'll know when you see it" is probably
the chief idiocy ensuring
their loud, miserable,
pollutant-ladden failure.
mp_en_viaje: this is not usually given enough
thought (in
the sense of, any, for
the scope of "free and open" shitsource) -- but
the most important part of software development is
the construction of
the rational basis of merge decisions.
mp_en_viaje: imo is better because at least creates ~a record~ of
the
type of problems we're solving which not only might spark refinements downstream, but will also constiute a phenomenologically blessed
test set for any such refinements, permitting ~RATIONAL~ acception or rejection if/when it comes
to.
mp_en_viaje: in
this manner all-1 operator response will result in
the behaviour you specced ; and anything else will result in finer control (at
the obvious added cost of bothering
to paste a buncha 1's in a paste).
mp_en_viaje: then once
this is done syncer spits out paste consisting of aggregate L in response
to command given in 1, and accepts as response a succession of bits (0, 1)
telling it which
to
take where.
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939815 << how's
this for a proposedly "better" algo : 1. syncer is given
target
T ; 2 sincer loads
tip of
T (as
the whole day page, DP), compares
to its own record ; 3. if comparison results in any difference, syncer produces list L in
the format of #count, own line,
T line and moves
to 4. which consists of repeating algo for DP-1.
diana_coman: meanwhile an
initial look at irc networks suggests
they might be ~all about as lively as a corpse really; but anyways, oftc, undernet, espernet and dalnet seem
to have made it
to
the
top
to be contacted in
the coming days.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 12:46:59 asciilifeform:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939710 << funnily enuff,
the crypto-christians left behind in jp after missionaries expelled, mutated into such a bizarre fork chain
that modern church does not recognize'em as anyffin at all (
they mutter unrecognizable chants , which at some pt in 17th c were latin , from phonetic crib sheets
to
this day... but elsewise resemble 'insular buddhist sect' very cl
mp_en_viaje: yes, precisely as in story --
the subject of self-delusion AND HIM ONLY goes about
the world "under spell" of "the spell".
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 12:33:01 asciilifeform: asks again, 'boy...' finally boy
takes off helmet and utters : 'sir, i fess up, i dun know
these
things, cuz i aint a REAL WELDER!!!'
mp_en_viaje: not even a matter of "want
the job". we've nobody even remotely capable of running such a
thing,
thereby
the job is "accrete more people, especially non-male, non-engineer, non-maleengineer-retarded
types"
mp_en_viaje: on
the flimsy grounds
that worked ok last we
tried it, if naught else.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 12:18:34 asciilifeform: !Qlater
tell
trinque do you
think you can get ben
to reappear for long enuff
to properly appoint
tbf successor ? cuz imho a heavy bag o'coin attached
to a beheaded
tbf is unseemly and
the orig charter offers no gc mechanism for it
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform:
The complaint is still escalated with emphasis on
the pipe not having been near
this unstable in
the past
snsabot: asciilifeform:
time since my last reconnect : 0d 1h 29m
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 21:21:37 asciilifeform:
trinque, diana_coman , et al :
draft!!! of semi-auto sync mechanism. is only ~demo~, it cannot write
to a db, only proposes changes.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform:
They're wrestling with international carrier. Will let you know when
there's news.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 21:06:09 snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 08:36:01 mircea_popescu: who else wants
travel keys
tehn ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 21:21:59 lobbesbot:
trinque: Sent 8 hours and 47 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> do you
think you can get ben
to reappear for long enuff
to properly appoint
tbf successor ? cuz imho a heavy bag o'coin attached
to a beheaded
tbf is unseemly and
the orig charter offers no gc mechanism for it
trinque: sorry for
the gagged deedbot meanwhile;
that outage caught me in
the middle of a multi-channel experiment
BingoBoingo: Datacenter has been contacted. Going
to visit
the rack.
mod6: trinque: no, I haven't spoken
to him about
that.
trinque: ^ was not able
to connect
to uy1 until just now
lobbes: asciilifeform, diana_coman I also have #lobbes registered with fleanode and live. Feel free
to include in your loggers if you want. No archives
to snarf really
lobbes: about
to switch over ericbot
to new patch; about 30 seconds of downtime
lobbes: asciilifeform: neato, I will give it some
testing
this weekend
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 16:06:25 asciilifeform: diana_coman: aite. proposed algo , is a manually-triggered item
that 1)
takes a 'breakage point', i.e. last known correctly logged line represented by
tuple [chan, index] . 2) finds its
timestamp 3) drops errything in db postdating said
timestamp 4) walks list of peer loggers, fetches for each enabled chan, errything from last-known-idx i
to i+500 5) 4 is repeated until returns <500 6)
then
takes
the ~longest~ s
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 20:02:13 asciilifeform: was
thinking re how oughta do auto-syncs. one possible method, is for bot
to
take command via pm, e.g. !q sync 1000
http://logs.ossasepia.com ; would
then walk last N (here, 1000) ln, and offer 'identical', 'diverges prior', or 'diverges at I', I is index, and offer alignment, operator (set in config who) can
then confirm or reject
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 08:36:01 mircea_popescu: who else wants
travel keys
tehn ?
lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 8 hours and 47 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> do you
think you can get ben
to reappear for long enuff
to properly appoint
tbf successor ? cuz imho a heavy bag o'coin attached
to a beheaded
tbf is unseemly and
the orig charter offers no gc mechanism for it
lobbes: still ain't a mp-endorsed castle either. I figure
that
time may come one day, but
that
time isn't now as far as I can
tell.
lobbes: asciilifeform: yea, I
think I'ma gonna register a new channel with fleanode (#lobbes). As such, no need for archive import (there wasn't much in
the old one either save for
testing of various
things). I'll let you know once it is live
lobbes: once I make
that switch, I would not mind it being logged if folx are willing
to log it
lobbes may just bite
the bullet and do
this
tonight, actually
lobbes: however, I'm considering simply registering a "#lobbes" in its stead. However, haven't yet gotten
to it due
to
the need
to go
through
the rigmarole of registering it with fleanode, setting all my bots
to +o, etc.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-03 19:43:07 asciilifeform: lobbes do you want it logged by
the orchestra ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform:
true re very little
traffic in most chans as only reason why one can still sync manually, yes.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I meant
that multiple-chan is
the part where automation wins here; otherwise retrieving
the lines + drop/insert is anyway semi-automated at best for
the above reasons.
diana_coman: tbh
that's
the main reason why I didn't reach for "automate it" - because a lot of it still remains manual; it's more
this multiple-chan
the
trouble perhaps
than anything else.