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assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 05:35:06; decimation: but you make a point - the software industry (and usg in general) has mastered the art of wasting the productivity of its population

assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 05:24:04; decimation: unfortunately it seems that the "cl logs" are quite scattered and need to be reconstructed by a student (unlike b-a logs)

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1212935 << it's basically why I/we use -a ☝︎

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assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 02:26:44; decimation: policies like income & capital gains tax can be seen as a method of exhausting potential suitors to power

mircea_popescu: we got a lot of work for a man of your talents o.O

assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 02:25:03; decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212646 < this is a good point (taxation is always political). yet it does have economic consequences, and I would prefer to distort the economy toward favoring work and saving over consumption

decimation: "Each of their [the Western government's] decisions is an atom unto itself, made through an almost ritualized process by a large number of very intelligent, talented and ambitious people, whose abilities tend to cancel each other almost perfectly, leaving nothing but a chilling bureaucratic continuity."

asciilifeform: the world of 1985, where there were a thousand ~state-of-the-art~ chip fabs, under two+ separate civilizational systems, and running perhaps a dozen ~entirely independently developed~ toolchains - isn't coming back ☟︎☟︎

decimation: but you make a point - the software industry (and usg in general) has mastered the art of wasting the productivity of its population ☟︎

asciilifeform: the coveted 'garden of eden' situation where ~there isn't a microshit~, when there is not a usg department-of-computing that has its tentacles in every orifice - won't be coming back until some quasi-mythical breakthrough decentralizes chip fabbing

decimation: of course, it's more than just a 'marketing gimmick', microsoft more-or-less requires all hardware to be painted with its binaries

asciilifeform: y as a marketing gimmick, of course you don't want to warrant, support, or maintain it, and of course nobody would even dream of paying royalties for it, they can just get another cheap pen or T-shirt or shirnk-wrapped software package of the shelf somewhere else.'

asciilifeform: ly those in the government offices in charge of squeezing the juice of out the produce of society. I think the software crisis has been created by the tax laws and government officials who were unable to understand the value of the computer industry products. Since the Western business world is operating very closely in a trigger-response pattern relative to changes to the tax laws, the regulators are fully to blame for the

asciilifeform: 'Personally, I think the whole business model of the software industry is rotten to the core. Microsoft is not even a contributory cause -- Bill Gates isn't smart enough to invent or create something like this. It used to be the norm that software was essentially free (gratis) and just vehicles to move hardware, which was tangible enough to make it easy for the anal-retentive beancounters to count and weigh and such, especial

asciilifeform: decimation: the naggum archive is probably the closest thing there is to a '#b-a log of common lisp'

decimation: unfortunately it seems that the "cl logs" are quite scattered and need to be reconstructed by a student (unlike b-a logs) ☟︎

asciilifeform: folks who bring in very tangible money from cl-related work, and want/need a serious support relationship, might benefit from franz or lispworks

asciilifeform: clisp is a mostly-standardcompliant implementation of the language - but very slow

decimation: I think they have a non-profit free version now?

asciilifeform: eh, 'flash' was a steaming pile of shit from day 1

decimation: it would be just like hollywood et al to conspire to 'move content' into a box they can milk

decimation: apparently it's been mooted to include this new HEVC standard into HTML5 - amazingly all of a sudden "flash" has been flooded with publicized exploits

mod6: <+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i confess that i have not attempted to run it << i haven't had a chance either. will give it a go this week.

decimation: so prepare for everythining multimedia to be a little shittier and more annoying in the future

ben_vulpes: you're not a pete_dushenski or a hanbot, why would you

decimation: they claim a 50% reduction in bitrates with 'equal mos'

mod6: at some point next month, i write up a guide on how to set up cucumber as well so any one else who wants to use this can do so on their own environment.

asciilifeform: hanbot: ben_vulpes sent a gpg-native binary sig instead of a standard ascii-armoured one by mistake.

mod6: This test output log is a bit large, after all of the normal build output the goodies are at the end of the file (including the output from all of the subsequent tests & code): http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/v054-TEST1-cukes-log.txt

mod6: i was pretty happy with postfix when i ran an mta like a hundred million internet years ago

mod6: Have a bunch of automated tests (cucumber) that now builds the new test bundle, verify, check binary, test -connect, dumpblock, eatblock. ima post a log here in just a bit.

asciilifeform: 'gpg -a ...' por favor.

asciilifeform: it's a binary sig.

decimation: policies like income & capital gains tax can be seen as a method of exhausting potential suitors to power ☟︎

assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 13:56:36; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1212302 << taxation is first and foremost a political activity. it is an economic activity as a very distant second. the noton that "it'd ok because we;re doing productive milking" misses the point by about the same berth as the notion that "it's ok, we don't need guns because we got money". this is simply not how the car works.

decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212646 < this is a good point (taxation is always political). yet it does have economic consequences, and I would prefer to distort the economy toward favoring work and saving over consumption ☝︎☟︎

shinohai: Searching for it now. No worries on the HD format, I'm just using a spare one with nothing else on it naturally.

shinohai: @ asciilifeform is there a stator binary available for pogo anywhere?

mod6: I did get stuck a few times inbetween and i had to restart bitcoind, then it kept going.

ben_vulpes: hm, sorry. i'm asking the wrong question. was there ever a "reward restart" bug discovered, where the reward effectively started over after the final subsidized block?

asciilifeform: in other news, average human has half a cock

asciilifeform notices that phuctor Π(∀n) is most of a GB

asciilifeform: every morning, birds try to encapsulate my car into a kind of blob

mircea_popescu: point being, they're all the same thing, aka a pdf : an attempt to encapsulate text into some sort of blob.

mircea_popescu: it's a turdformat.

mircea_popescu: a sort of pdf.

ben_vulpes: girl says "watch the tests come back and the nurses struggle to say 'you're a weenie, pregnancy hurts, there's nothing wrong with you go home' politely"

shinohai: Sorry to hear that. I had surgery for a kidney stone years ago, and it was no picnic

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212471 << more like, only path to survival for google. they don't have an actual place in the marketplace, they're much too large, old and ossified to find one. if they don't pull a redhat/mcdonalds/walmart/whatever and screw themselves in the usg spigot, they're going the way of revlon. ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 00:47:17; nubbins`: now it's just a thing people do. i have a friend who painted his house neon green

cazalla: what ya reckon, like father like son, i think he has good aesthetics, just gotta hit those weights like zyzz in a few years time http://i.imgur.com/rBilkrW.png http://i.imgur.com/nIRxdfT.png

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cazalla: well, that'd be the rest of the sambuca gone.. result is muh monitor is looking like it is placed a couple metres away and is like 50m wide

assbot: Logged on 25-07-2015 00:19:48; nubbins`: any home owners in here wanna share their annual insurance premium, as a percentage of the value of their home?

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212358 << romania has a mandatory scheme (for the insurers - you may not obtain permit to sell insurance if you don't offer it to ANYONE!) that costs something ridiculous like 0.01% ☝︎

mircea_popescu: which point should readily explain why it costs the chinese nothing to make missiles and the usians can't afford to make a plane.

mircea_popescu: it is a much stronger state that which taxes everyone, no matter how little, than the one which mostly doesn't tax, but gets "more money". the money it gets are worthless to it

assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 23:59:48; asciilifeform: usg has a firm grasp on milking the real feed base - the low-six-fig-usd artisan

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1212302 << taxation is first and foremost a political activity. it is an economic activity as a very distant second. the noton that "it'd ok because we;re doing productive milking" misses the point by about the same berth as the notion that "it's ok, we don't need guns because we got money". this is simply not how the car works. ☝︎☟︎

assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 20:58:09; ascii_field: i.e. if there is anyone here with a linux box on which any of the bins built thus far fail to run, something is very very wrong

asciilifeform: available evidence points to these being code for a dsp, which modulates the business end of that thing, ~in software~. whoever solves these, could, conveivably, play music through the pairs...

asciilifeform: phun phakt. ubiquitous series of ethernet cards by 'realtek' take (optional) microcode updates. (they are volatile, live in a kind of 'patch ram' until next reset.) they do not appear to match any known cpu arch (i tried a dozen or so.)

asciilifeform: good way to build a free gift of hash for usg

decimation: asciilifeform: actually I was thinking about how one could buy otherwise useless land in the desert, get usg to subsidize solar, and sell space in a 'miner's datacenter'

asciilifeform: (at times, the 'water sellers' are peculiarly slow to catch up - consider, for instance, that mains current cheap enough to mine btc with at a profit still appears to exist somewhere !)

decimation: as for 'sheeple' - you of course realize how thin the shadow of an implication of a threat you would need to make for a tenure-hopeful to be thrown into near-suicidal doubt

asciilifeform: yes, elsevier is in the position to 'you get to pay us $2mil/yr or you don't get to run a university library'

decimation: yeah, the plebes are kept out merely as a side effect of the gorging

asciilifeform: but it is a mistake to think that elsevier, wiley, et al exist to 'keep research from the plebes.' no one gives half a rat's arse about plebes. they exist as an inevitable fly on the juicy meat of the university

asciilifeform: precisely the kind of faux reform that exists to 'check a box'

decimation: but it has enough loopholes to not make a difference

decimation: they kinda made a halfass derp in that direction

asciilifeform: crown could, if wished, proclaim tomorrow 'any academic claiming a publication on his cv that is not freely available on www is committing fraud, and liable'

decimation: yeah, there's a tacit agreement - you can copy our stuff but only we can sell it

asciilifeform: copyrasts whine about 'if you made movie, you didn't make that movie' but there can be no such thing as too cruel a revenge for 'if you bought a book, you didn't buy that book'

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212505 << the 'face recognizer' thing is setting the stage for some epic lulz. think 'sausage attack.' just about all the commercial face processors readily fall for inkjet-printed masks that wouldn't fool a child ☝︎

asciilifeform: if someone is dumb enough to buy into such a chumpatron, why bother serving up anything but pablum

cazalla: someone somewhere must be making a killing off such a scheme

felipelalli: But I'll send a similar soon.

trinque: eh I'll still send it through as a test case then

decimation: asciilifeform, others: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel/32651 "I just committed a change making musl the new default libc in OpenWrt

trinque: no one could have ever forseen a signed message inside a signed message, you see!

decimation: Dave Vos, who heads Google’s secretive Project Wing, told Bloomberg News in his most expansive comments on Google’s vision to date. “The idea being that it’s not ‘Google is going to go out and build a solution and everyone else has to subscribe to it.’ The idea really is anyone should be free to build a solution.”

assbot: Google Wants a Piece of Air-Traffic Control for Drones - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDP4ld )

nubbins`: cazalla, having a pantone book is like having a suitcase full of vials with "essence of ____" written on the labels

cazalla: on a scale of 1-10 such knowledge of colours interests me 0 but i can respect the enthusiasm and knowledge :)

nubbins`: the large coloured shape is the colour space of a standard human eye

nubbins`: here's a diagram some may find interesting

cazalla: yellow123 looks a nice yellow

nubbins`: now it's just a thing people do. i have a friend who painted his house neon green ☟︎

nubbins`: Shane O’Dea, an expert on architectural heritage and historic preservation, said the idea of fancy window and door trim, and brightly-painted houses was born in 1977. In fact, the idea can be traced to one man, David Webber, the foundation’s executive director. In that year, the foundation took on a demonstration project by painting a sample block in bright colours, from Willicott’s Lane to Victoria Street, on both sides of the street.

nubbins`: i came up here 40 minutes ago to roll a jazz cig

nubbins`: wow, says here installing a woodstove would double my premium

nubbins`: "Another couple from St. John’s advised the Consumer Advocate that, despite numerous attempts, they had not been able to obtain insurance at any cost for the past four and a half years on their attached King’s Bridge Road property."

decimation: asciilifeform: oh lordy don't tell me you're a 'truther'?

nubbins`: “In November 2004 the house insurance dramatically escalated from $552.00 to $1,315.60. The municipal appraisal was constant. The insurance brokers advised me that it was almost impossible to obtain insurance for a downtown, partially attached house. They advised that the new rate was the best they could obtain. I personally telephoned two other insurance companies in St. John’s. In each call I was immediately asked the location of the

nubbins`: here's a government report from 2006