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mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel i was replying to " you wouldn't shell over $100 for it?" strictly.

gabriel_laddel: "I'm not planning on selling Masamune. It will be free and stocked with niceties. Where I do plan to make money..."

mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel portage already exists. not only would i not pay for it, i'd pay to have whoever packages gentoo atm whipped.

gabriel_laddel: I've got a blog

gabriel_laddel: To those who would say "Oh you can't possibly sell a 3D CLIM, no one needs that" I will note that we *know* the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (Weapons and Complex Integration) built VisIt on top of OpenGL. They accept it as a given. USG doesn't want to win wars, but I'm willing to bet that someone on Earth does. One easy way to free up eng

gabriel_laddel: y-taught-in-3d) and no one is catering to their needs. System76 exists, they sell linux computers but their machines suck because they're stupid. I see no reason I can't sell computers pre-loaded with Masamune. Frankly, the marketing for all these companies sucks and I don't think it'll be terribly difficult to do far better.

gabriel_laddel: DE (with all the goodies MP and I discussed previously - !s paper clip), 3D CLIM (actually a rather involved project - selecting the correct hardware, reverse engineered opengl drivers etc is expensive and how exactly this gets split off into various products is complicated), a program that does run-time analysis on your CL code and optimizes it in

gabriel_laddel: I'm not planning on selling Masamune. It will be free and stocked with niceties. Where I do plan to make money is on (source-included) extensions, which amounts to contracting gigs setting up intricate lessons for large companies, militaries, private schools and homeschoolers. Aside from this, various products I'd like to make and sell: a CL only I

gabriel_laddel: ^ It appears that I should properly make the business case. If the unix in question had a sane substitute for portage (clearly specified set of systems guaranteed to build for a specified set of versions, no cyclic dependencies when you try to enable the USE flag for docs globally, sane CLOS structuring of the systems, `build' builds, `test' tests

gabriel_laddel: *: BingoBoingo finds most confusing about gabriel_laddel that he would suppose people pay for *nix'en + asciilifeform: i must confess that i personally would not pay -anything- for a unix of any description whatsoever. + mircea_popescu: i still don't see the money part. this is art, at best. + asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the way i understand, he t

gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1142114 << apparently he doesn't think so, which is strange. i do. << ftr, I see this as progress. Knowing macrofab exists and having a working relationship is useful. ☝︎

gabriel_laddel: trinque: but the guy was dead set on building this whole relational coding environment for... I don't know, your grandmother, anyone, "the people"! << idk wtf he was smoking - sounds like you should have packaged and sold it.

gabriel_laddel: trinque: you may at best go work for the guy who can << hey, lemme know when you find him - I'm still searching.

BingoBoingo is horribru with money x-cept when I am awesome

gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: sorta like the only other outfit of that period, thinking machines corp. << unlike smbx, I've heard that their producs were never competitive, in spite of having all the brains and lisp machines they could possibly want. Related to the whole "they burned a pile of money" I've also been told they bought a firetruck to play with (wtf,

BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: I am sorry, you are doomed to suffer hetrogyny

gabriel_laddel: g a business. EG: from what I can tell, it consists of fill out paperwork, go to point (lat,long), fill out more paperwork, if you fill out enough paperwork, you'll get special moron coins that you can spend at select hotels or trade in for airline credits. Fucking idiot nonsense to fill the lives of shmucks whose time isn't worth anything and aspi

gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: engineers suck at management is the long and the short of it. << I see no reason that this must be the case, but yes, fiat-land tends to breed engineers who are terrible with money (bill gosper, stallman, richard gabriel). It also tends to make idiot managers. IMHO much of this is because of all the inane nonsense involved in runnin

BingoBoingo: Hasimir: No, I am surprised all of this other shit is getting Fucktored 1stest

Hasimir: I can always recompile an older version ...

Hasimir: and I'm running 1.4.19 and 2.1.4

Hasimir: I've got os x

BingoBoingo: Hasimir: As much as I drink, not sure my piss would freeze at zero

Hasimir: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform, I was looking in gpg's import source code for an unrelated thing and noticed something, it won't give you the answer, but it might help narrow the search - read through the code and code comments in g10/import.c of the current master repo, it goes through the specific key error types and subkey fragment types that gpg won't import (which also happens to be most of the keys on The List)

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we were idly discussing the "what could have causes weak keys", i pointed out that so far it could be a lotta things

assbot: Logged on 22-05-2015 03:11:31; BingoBoingo: I think someone stuck their dick in numbers and made this pattern possibru

assbot: Logged on 22-05-2015 03:10:09; mircea_popescu: Hasimir he doesn't mean [i take it] that someone was doing research which involved these keys. he was responding to me saying that for all we know, this is a property OF NUMBERS somehow

asciilifeform: point being, i have always wanted to see an 'm-mac'

danielpbarron: i have 2 of those

Hasimir: I believe that falls into the category of enlightened self-interest ;)

Hasimir: that's one of the reasons I started looking at pyme ...

decimation: I don't trust 8-bit character handling code

trinque: decimation: I'm fine with requiring ascii too; what's the argument behind that?

trinque: ah I see how you can set it

Hasimir: I think I might've submitted the bug report on that one ...

trinque: decimation: I don't see why it can't handle utf8; the sqlite db it munches on is

trinque: though that's something I'll fix.

mircea_popescu: "I walked out of the back office in a state of absolute shock. I’d just become a twenty–first century sharecropper. I couldn’t find outside work without winding up homeless — and I couldn’t leave the state because three bucks of gas money won’t get you past Walnut Creek — and I couldn’t get paid because there was no money to pay anyone with."

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-05-2015#1143206 << i bet he just wanted to eat, pay rent. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: decimation i dunno anyone gave a shit, just, whatever freenode takes.

Hasimir: decimation, I prefer to view it as a new (event) horizon

Hasimir: decimation, I like to print people's names correctly, to do otherwise when it is possible is just unnecessarily rude

gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Scorp+Tits | "We were all having a good time at the lake until ole fatass Tungette's Scorp Tits kicked in again. Damn I thought Jeff was gonna try and find a blowtorch to burn ...

cazalla: Hasimir, is the enrollment actually mandatory? i know of people that never enrolled so they never actually had to vote or become religious on the day of it

mircea_popescu: o check me out, i have the day's first line in log. yay.

mircea_popescu: i gues next bot is gangbot

assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 23:31:13; cazalla: trinque, at least you have the option not to vote.. i usually find myself rediscovering my religious roots on election day which exempts me from wasting my time.. why Hasimir would volunteer to waste even more of his time though, i can't figure that one

decimation: I suspect usg will withdraw because they don't want the court to rule that thier little export regulation house of cards is unconstitutional

mircea_popescu: i like cryptome but they have too much shit

Hasimir: decimation, yeah, I thought that was what you were talking about ...

mircea_popescu: decimation moreover, you can just pgp me the code and i'll publish it.

mircea_popescu: <Hasimir> ah, but I'm not against guns, just against them being the prime motivator for whatever << not the point. earlier when guns were being discussed you said " I've never seen any religion avoid going to a bad place", which yes is a valid point. but when it comes to something you actually know/care about, suddenly it';s not nearly as appealing, as good a point as it may be.

decimation: I'm not sure whatever came of this

Hasimir: I thought it settled before it got far enough to set precedent

decimation: Hasimir: yes and it was successful as I recall

decimation: mircea_popescu: " foss is fundamentally immune to this bs" < not clear. however I suspect usg would not want to try to stick someone posting foss - because the courts would likely find that this kind of regulation would contradict the first amendment

Hasimir: ah, but I'm not against guns, just against them being the prime motivator for whatever

Hasimir: I first wrote about it in '97 or '98

Hasimir: wassenar, god, I still want to bury that fucking thing

mircea_popescu: decimation yes. and notice 641 was a factor in the modulus i quoited above

assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 22:38:32; Hasimir: BingoBoingo, somewhere I have a log of a PM with that guy who we later learned was the undercover agent going after silk road v1

BingoBoingo: I think someone stuck their dick in numbers and made this pattern possibru ☟︎

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> Hasimir he doesn't mean [i take it] that someone was doing research which involved these keys. he was responding to me saying that for all we know, this is a property OF NUMBERS somehow << Yes

mircea_popescu: Hasimir he doesn't mean [i take it] that someone was doing research which involved these keys. he was responding to me saying that for all we know, this is a property OF NUMBERS somehow ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i have had enough shockers for a year

Hasimir: I know, I was being facetious

mircea_popescu: that's one theory (published as such in an article iirc). another theory hanbot came up with earlier in log, and i've been thinking about.

Hasimir: and I imagine it's much like the more recent massacre in Norway

cazalla: mircea_popescu, how would i know what to put what where when we can't have weapons here to begin with :\

mircea_popescu: cazalla> i'd much rather put 2 in their chest and compost em << why ? you're supposed to shoot out the knees/shoulders, and why wouldn't you ?

Vexual: when i read carry i imagine a kei truck

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: some of the 'crazy shit stick' thing is a result of u.s. folks -forbidden- to carry. the stick grows 'tumours' from being kept in safe anyway << Fading fast, apparently even I with paper work could carry "crazy shit stick"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform /me knows but what shall i say of it anymore, it's an opaque topic on the basis of erryday experience.

Hasimir: I suspect that if it came to a party vote I'd be in the minority and voting in favour

trinque: ah, yeah I don't carry

mircea_popescu: trinque mind, i have lived like that, and for extended periods. contrary to what the outsiders think, nobody inside is really all that keen about having to drag the damned things around everywhere.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> cazalla what, you're impugning a whole city now ? << Not like I don't indict whole cities for eventual Bingo Justice

trinque: I'm surrounded by orcs

cazalla: Hasimir, not much point calling the cops or ambos if a couple Refugee australis of the somalian kind rock up to your place, i'd much rather put 2 in their chest and compost em

trinque: I can grant that

trinque: mircea_popescu: though you and I have vastly different contexts within which to consider those problems

Hasimir: as I well know ...

Hasimir: mind you, I live in a place where it's illegal to carry something as relatively tame as pepper spray

Vexual: 2 days on the train to melb, i don't sleep untill i get home

Hasimir: cazalla, I probably would if I could, but it seems to almost be a religion for some and I've never seen any religion avoid going to a bad place

assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 22:21:33; Hasimir: I never claimed to have answers, but you guys are locked into the "it must be a conspiracy" mindset and assuming any criticism is part of the conspiracy

Hasimir: cazalla, it, not her and I'm more libertarian, but not the crazy american kind

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the original suggestion, as i read it, was bug in -sks-

cazalla: and given Hasimir is from Melbourne, odds are he's a lefty and i'm hitler to those sorts down here

cazalla: mircea_popescu, what friends? i know Vexual from here!

Hasimir: cazalla, I do tend to describe that thing as my crypto problem child ... but, probably worth it

cazalla: Hasimir, can't say i'm a fan.. and look it's Vexual! lol

mircea_popescu: cazalla i hope you're all weirded out and inception-ed to fuck seeing how all your friends keep showing up in here.

mod6: i used to smoke a pipe a long time ago.. not sure if I could get used to e-pipe. pipe tobacco has a nice smell, etc.

mod6: asciilifeform: hahhah i never knew!

mod6: didn't i see Ben McGinnes just post something to the thread about MP & the keys on the gnupg list or w/e?

mod6: mine is like: eleafworld.com/product/detail.php/eleaf-istick.html -- the one with the digital display i had with me in b-a.

Hasimir: well, I became treasurer in 2013, when he decided not to run again

asciilifeform: mod6: what does it plug into? i see no power source

Hasimir: last I heard, somewhere near russia