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mircea_popescu: (cylinder scytale trivially broken using two rigid sticks -- alter distance)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha equiv to today's dud keys lol
a111: Logged on 2017-08-09 17:59 mircea_popescu: basically they had this early elliptic curve crypto, implemented as an arbitrary cone on which they wrapped a string. because the string is fixed length see, whereas the section of cone is not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they do know they're free, so...
asciilifeform: ( i fughet the title, it was pestilential )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731822 << nb. i vaguely recall discussing the old ro instruments at some point. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey, at least it beats bush's 'and i luvv to live in amerikka, where at least iknow i'm phreee!111'
asciilifeform: apeloyee: i'm not so fixated on 'olivia' per se, but the principle.
apeloyee: fwiw pediwikia claims that Olivia is designed to resist multipath: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_MFSK#History
mircea_popescu: well, no, inasmuch as that was made by and for the local soviets.
asciilifeform: it stuck to asciilifeform's head precisely because screaming sovokism
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 20:46 asciilifeform: i'll let the actual ro-boriginals settle this one, lol
asciilifeform: massive townlet of abandoned pripyat-style megafactory, with a little modern thing in the middle making bmw transmissions
asciilifeform: i went into campus of 'umt' in timis, it was fascinating
mircea_popescu: in the 00s us stole romania's nuclear tech, fine mechanics plants, etc.
asciilifeform: what did us steal? it can't have been the gurlz, they were still there on sunday
mircea_popescu: well, in the 50s su stole romania's u-quartz, grain, train cars etc.
asciilifeform: and the yellowcake.
asciilifeform: hm i thought was re su
mircea_popescu: us is western to romania.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. part and parcel of the great benefits romania derived from it's great loving western neighbour stealing all its shit.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 19:47 BingoBoingo: And in other SOPs Sopping slop: "Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia had agreed to allow Robert Mueller to use something called the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege to compel testimony from an attorney who formerly represented Paul Manafort and Manafort’s onetime employee Rick Gates."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731801 << ahaha an exception amirite ? "effective counsel is sufficient cause to remove attorney-client priviledge!111" ☝︎
asciilifeform: they mega-sold, even to hobbyists in usa
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 20:19 asciilifeform: went, apparently, into the black, when absorbed into the reich machine.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731805 << romania sold arms independently in the 90s. extremely profitable. then "joined nato", extremely not profitable anymore, but hey, "we're all part of a greater thing" and other consolations.\ ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i find it worth noting that doppler reappeared immediately after asciilifeform unrated for inactivity
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 19:46 doppler: haha, the last list item is great
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731800 << o.O that was a long ti,e ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 19:11 asciilifeform: and to shelve them right next to actuals.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731792 << hey, this is exactly how we got "out democracy". all dem experts with human rights, by virtue of turds that sat themselves right next to genuine article. ☝︎
asciilifeform: asciilifeform eggoged internally, thought $link was to the primes thing on same day.
mircea_popescu: named in the linked item.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's lately a bacchanalia of 'totally not phuctor'ism, i only linked a few representative turds
mircea_popescu: but, for they interested in ancient history, the phillip g potter dood was there at c1, trying to sell his stuff. it didn't take.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 18:34 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the world of 'totally not stolen from #t', https://archive.is/UuRQt
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731785 << no but the 2012 statement doesn't count because it was you know "unfairly" too soon. only the 2017 restatement counts, because CORRECT COLOR OF BITS!11 ☝︎
asciilifeform: apeloyee: it is not clear to me that 'tens' suffices
mircea_popescu: part of the reason the us believed su is nuclear-capable though.
apeloyee: the third is to spread it over several tens of MHz.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is difficult to reason about 'was doing x to su +ev' -- sorta like you shoot a man, but he dies of fright first, and then ask whether bullet was wasted
mircea_popescu: in any case the untapping cost what, 50k ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731781 << you'll note that it's unclear whether the millions us spent to tap produced a net profit for the us or su side. ☝︎
asciilifeform: another is to mimic a common source of crapola, e.g. defective electric motors. ☟︎
asciilifeform: the q remains of how one might hide a 100kW transmission from hitler. 1 possible method is to mimic the noise of a natural phenomenon, like lightning strike.
apeloyee: you will have to deal with multipath . narrow spectrum modes is just pretending problem doesn't exist, they just stop working on destructive interference ☟︎
asciilifeform: most of spectrum is not esp. desirable real estate if you want 1000s of km through air
asciilifeform: can't be too wide or you get propagation (and multipath) problems
apeloyee: that that olivia thing
asciilifeform: ideally what one'd like is item that is not physically distinguishable from thermal noise to anyone without the key.
apeloyee: \read condition of shannon's noisy channel coding theorem, compare with what clssic modes do, and weep.
apeloyee: one reason those seem impressive is that classical analog modes are so inefficient.
asciilifeform: every once in a while i find the dessicated corpses of folx who were doing evidently ~same thing i was.
asciilifeform: multi-year thing.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: i found the thing in the course of designing own.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: i dun think anyone here would seriously consider using the turd
apeloyee: and as usual, "to use it, download this here windows turd".
asciilifeform: ^ per asciilifeform's current understanding, thing is untriangulable unless enemy knows the freq keying pattern, or is standing in the near field of your transmitter. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: cause it can often be decoded perfectly in the most poor signal-to-noise conditions, even when the human ear cannot discern the presence of the signal, and even when it cannot be easily seen on the conventional waterfall spectrum display'
asciilifeform: in other impressive-if-true tech, http://hflink.com/olivia >> 'Olivia is one of the most robust methods of text keyboarding, that can perform superbly for long distance communications in ionospheric noise conditions where other modes fail. It is possible to communicate worldwide using Olivia with as little as a few watts of transmitter power... Olivia is different from some other types of amateur radio digital keyboarding methods, be
asciilifeform: i suspect that 'naive' gcd with newtonian divider will be goodenuff speedwise.
apeloyee: it was only an idea for the same, not actual description
asciilifeform prolly oughta set up a perlism to fetch all pastes and save locally, because this is getting ridiculous
asciilifeform: btw iirc at one time apeloyee posted a newtonian divider, using secretbitcount and secretshift, but the paste got gc'd and it seems i dun have a copy...
asciilifeform: (that is, naive gcd with muxed output rather than the ordinary conditional termination)
asciilifeform: nonobvious i found the aspect where it's supposed to be faster than naive gcd
apeloyee: asciilifeform: problem is I have nfi what's non-obvious to you. I thought most things i posted was obvious, but apparently not
asciilifeform: i promise to actually read instead of allergically barfing.
asciilifeform: this goes for the other eagle eyes likewise.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: don't hesitate to write in if you find one.
asciilifeform: problems closing the 'and here we omit' holes
asciilifeform: currently puzzling over the one apeloyee posted
asciilifeform: i'ma also try unrolled comba, to compare, but do not want to spend eons on this type of massage, it can happen after release of p.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: it's <1s already on just about any comp the readers are likely to have. 2s on my 2009 opteron.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform did not touch ffa/p at all other than on airplane, in past wk
asciilifeform: still gotta finish the , yes, gcd, then miller-rabin, then autotests, then that's it
asciilifeform: ( well, technically 1 time, but prior to voyage. )
asciilifeform: apeloyee: i actually did this the other day. it was publicly used 0 times.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 19:10 asciilifeform: incidentally if this were me, i'd make a voyage-only wot key, rate it +1, then at the end, when getting back to home, sign statement 'my voyage key was uneventfully used N times and then incinerated' or 'pygmies stole my voyage key K and signed audacious forgeries F1, F2...' depending on how it went.
apeloyee: because that's the only thing it accomplishes here << how did you come to this conclusion
asciilifeform: though i suppose if someone wants to write pcode for a crtistic rsa, i cannot stop him
asciilifeform: ( incidentally there will be no crtism in ffa . )
asciilifeform: pretty easy to do, flip the 0 to 1 in the quoted snippet.
apeloyee: would need to check the no-crt version
asciilifeform: i did. however this affects both priv and pub op equally
asciilifeform: because that's the only thing it accomplishes here
asciilifeform: apeloyee: upstack, it becomes clear that koch put in crt strictly so that gpg can shit out your private key when uncorrected memory flip
asciilifeform: fantasies of stupid folx tend to resolve to some simple combo of physiological hungers being satisfied
mircea_popescu: there's such a thing as a classification of insanity loci.
apeloyee: not really, but then fantasies don't need rigorous definition
mircea_popescu: a perfectly valid alt-approach would be to say "transhumanist" is how the new generation of idiots (that call themselves socialists) call "the new man".
asciilifeform: bastard child of 'intelligence amplification' as imagined in 1970s, when 'computer won't suck' was still possible to easily contemplate
mircea_popescu: apeloyee but does this heuristic pass your own criteria for what a definition is ?
apeloyee: fwiw, I understand "transhumanist" as "fantasising about entities which are non-human except in the ways dear to me (which in practice will mean they're either impossible or are just broken humans)" work?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at the very least they will sit around mallocing for a good spell
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the folx with custom rsa-bruting silicon , i expect are pissing themselves as we speak
mircea_popescu: also it will have the interesting side effect of exposinbg the shit quality of the imperial hardware/software stacks whenever they try to use our keypairs.
diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform no, i know. from the pov of rsa-being-attacked, it's probably better to have non-standard exponent than "everyone uses 65537" <- this
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i expect that you will find the expected 4:1 result then.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, guess my next run will have to be with an fg-generated exponent as well; it's not a big deal to add that now; but this was very first run of the very minimal thing