asciilifeform: naturally they don't if author of proggy didn't remember to put'em there. (unix has 0 support for anything resembling sane eggogology aside from the separate stream, and yer stuck with if(!kernel_api_call()) {shit_pants()} etc in all cases )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: stderr is where eggogs go ( imho 1 of the few ~sane~ decisions of the unix people, to separate the streams so eggogs/warnings dun drown in normal output )
asciilifeform: but ideally halt, cuz mircea_popescu did propose 'dun diff 8bitisms' and errybody did agree.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: warn also ok, so long as to stderr where operator will actually see it
asciilifeform: rly it oughta halt with eggog if finds 8thbit
asciilifeform: interesting ! i gotta find which, and add to .gpr ( still dun cure utfism in manifest/docs tho )
asciilifeform: nao that i think about it, this function prolly belongs in vdiff, i'ma bake a patch for it
asciilifeform: apologies to anyone whose toolchain choked on these, if indeed any
asciilifeform: it is outrageous that i still got 8th bits in'ere
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the most recent case i found was a 'minus' sign pasted in from ~own article~ . prior to that -- doublequotes in 'manifest', ditto
asciilifeform: i'd like to get the last uniturds out ( they creep in when paste in from www browser containing own pieces ! turns out. will also have to find out and kill whatever asciilifeform-wp piece is responsible. but not enuff free hands atm )
asciilifeform: ( at one pt i sat down to write a detector for unisadism, but never finished )
asciilifeform: there's room for a moar 'ideal' instrument.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i realize it sounds like nuttery. but could have e.g. flat output rate irregardless of temperature ( theoretically achievable with radiodecay ) etc.
asciilifeform: ( could proclaim 'fg' but that'd be a cheat imho , a primary standard oughta have entirely known characteristics, with 0 effect of component variation. but is this even possible for rng. )
asciilifeform: re standards & tests -- it still bothers asciilifeform that there aint a 'primary standard' for rng
asciilifeform: 2000s was in 'golden age' where simply net connection did not automatically put you in range of 12yo spew , so asciilifeform (not having younger siblings , nor teaching kindergarten) did not find out what they were doing in 2000s
asciilifeform: then again, ~those~ were 8yos. perhaps they graduated to teleportation.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect you had slightly moar audaciously lyin' 12yos in mircea_popescustan -- where asciilifeform was, more common pattern was 'my father is a general + admiral + auto racer'
asciilifeform recalls lengthy passage in 'malleus' where author ponders whether witches pilot broomstick, or merely teleport
asciilifeform: lulzily, i ended up with 3 having consecutive (hand-written, in ancient ink) serial #s.
asciilifeform: in unrelated 'for laters' noose, asciilifeform got hold of 2 moar 'ivory' cpus (brings total # of samples in asciilifeform's house o'horrors to 5 )
asciilifeform: ( and subs internal to subs, permitted in ada planet just as they are in pascal )
asciilifeform: this is counting i/o glue and errything .
asciilifeform: and sure will be revisited if it had to be . but i try and presently fail to come up with a scenario where it oughta be, rather than answer of 'take braindamaged pubkey that needs 257 routines somewhere else, ty'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: imho nuffin pertaining to publickey crypto has any fucking biznis containing anywhere near 256 routines
asciilifeform: ( this is the last param to be put to this q, where walk b/w 'scylla' of magicnumberism and 'charybdis' of unknownramfootprintism )
asciilifeform: asmism , i consider a luxury -- ffa is designed to operate reasonably quickly on commonplace iron without it.
asciilifeform: the knobs still on conveyor are -- subroutines; hash ; constant-time table lookups. that's it.
asciilifeform: ( ideally i could rule out the existence of such thing as a class, but alas cannot )
asciilifeform: if someone thinks he needs a ~number-theoretical~ knob that 1) is missing in current ffa 2) cannot be efficiently baked out of the primitives -- he had better speak up soon.
asciilifeform: ( to be pedantic -- peh. ffa proper , is imho done, unless a reader finds apeloyee-style 'here's where you could have 2x faster' thing )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ffa is 3 ch away from fieldable beta atm ; so in attempt to avoid ending up like mod6 , i'm currently 100% in it. afterwards will switch for a spell to 100% elbows in piz.☟︎
asciilifeform: nor a does_this_pointer_point_to_hell() , etc
asciilifeform: and it aint even necessary to saw open a bolix to see why this was. they didn't have to have a did_machine_do_what_i_said(...) after ~erry line.
asciilifeform: consider the not-uninteresting fact, that on 370,000-transistor bolix, ada was 50kloc ; while on 3bil+-transistor x86, ada (gnat cum gcc cum deps) is , what, 1mil+ ? and their kernel was iirc ~50kloc, while ours...
asciilifeform: old sovok practicaljoak -- shake out bag of flour in a room, then leave the light bulb with filament sans glass
asciilifeform: concrete dust (like all combustible dusts) is a 'fuel-air' boom
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: funnily enuff, even ~this~ is trickier than you think -- ordinary cement ( and epoxies as well ) cure exothermically
asciilifeform: imho nuffin linus et al shat out rises to anywhere near the level you'd want for this, but again 'you go to war with army you have'(tm)(r) etc