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pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: always lusted after
those as a youf but never had much chance
to fiddle with 'em. unobtanium for young pete's budget but glad
to hear
they're still running strong
ben_vulpes: last
time i crossed
the border, guard winked us
through, saying, "see you in november!"
pete_dushenski: i'm in ben_vulpes' neck of
the woods more or less, sadly with bizniz
to
tend
to and little opportunity
to make house calls
to
trump's side of
the border.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: znort "finally" ran
three
times now. if zhe comes back again i won't be overly surprised. like how many other btc corpses, znort surely has nine lives.
diana_coman: asciilifeform,
that one, yes! mine was made in-house by my father so I sort of know it more open-box
than closed-box in any case
diana_coman: asciilifeform, hm, I should get my '80s cobra
then? centos 6 is not even recent
tbh; but otherwise yes, I believe re no need
to patch
a111: Logged on 2017-03-26 15:03 mp_en_viaje: basically a novel vector of imperial attack seems
to be
this "let's
take republican items and ~EXPAND~
the downstream so
that siberian river attack is
then feasible".
mod6: worth noting,
thanks alf.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, one can patch
the kernel
to work with both pl2303 AND pl2303x; but otherwise yes, obv is obv, either actual serial port or otherwise finding a combo
that works
diana_coman: asciilifeform, well, for various definitions of resolve; I'm satisfied
that problem was as identified i.e. pl2303x vs pl2303
diana_coman: asciilifeform, if you mean
the usb
trouble with fuckgoats it was on *centos*
mircea_popescu: THAT is what
the whole "i'm rich, pay off for it" protection is for.
mircea_popescu: it's entirely within
the realm of
the conceivable
that on a long enough
timeline anyone ends up selling a nonzero quantity of palaces.
mircea_popescu: a deal can be anything. a stupid deal, or a deal of no economic value or relevancy, such as me offering for sale my palace on
the moon, with
the footnote
that as far as i know
there's no palaces on
the moon and if
there were i don't know of owning any is one
thing. fraud begins later on.
mircea_popescu: preorders as such are a few steps closer
to sanity
than
this.
mircea_popescu: same item would have been "why doesn't s.nsa claim
to have an item it doesn't and sell it, like butterfly labs"
davout: ftr fractional reserve is really not what i was discussing in
the first place ...
mircea_popescu: davout "immediate" doesn't mean "in so and so $magic number
time interval". immediate means, without intervening steps.
mod6: (unless it says otherwise, in clear, plain-text right
there and I am aware
that
the coins
that are listed on
the orderbook are not actually *there*, right *now*)
davout: how would
that work if your
trades are simple insertions recorded in a DB ?
mod6: If I place my bid, "100 BTC @ 1.00 USD", and your
trade engine
tells me
that "Trade Executed", I expect immediate settlement/delivery. Anything else is scam.
davout: hard
to stop when it seemed so easy in
the first place, even
though it *was* factually safe in
the first plae
mircea_popescu: ie, if X
thinks P = "hey, ima
trade fraudulently because i'm rich enough
to afford covering up for it",
the probability of X later
thinking P' = "undertaking excessive risk on
the basis of extant capitalization is viable in spite of its obvious unviability" is high. because while P' is patently insane whereas P is merely occultly insane, nevertheless P' is just a watered down version of P and consequently "of lower psychologi
mircea_popescu: and
this is exactly
the substance of
the "will come
to grief" comment.
the sort of mental situation
that creates
the approach in
the first place is generally guaranteed
to eventually sink it past
the point of safety.
davout: their ability
to face
the consequences of
the risks
they're undertaking is not something i can meaningfully argue, i have nfi how rich
they are
mircea_popescu: which is
the problem with
this "im
trading fraudulently in
the hopes i'm rich enough
to not suffer
the consequences".
mircea_popescu: so : being rich protects one from action on fraud, on
the basis of being able
to make restitution and only as far as
that lasts.
davout: so you did
take a risk
mircea_popescu: rape is still a crime, even if you only indulge in it in
those juridstictions where paying off
the father after
the fact is a legal way of extinguishing ~the claim~ against you and you're rich enough
to pay more
than you can fuck.
davout: isn't
that what
the mpoe bot was essentially doing?
mircea_popescu: whenever something is
taken
to
the marketplace under a label
that doesn't match
the content, fraud has been committed.
davout: my point is
that
taking risks isn't fraudulent if you're able
to eat whatever losses you're exposing yourself
to
davout: if it was
the latter, would it be fraudulent just on account of me
taking a risk?
davout: mircea_popescu: say i start selling buttcoins, is it fraudulent if i source
them elsewhere?
mircea_popescu: there isn't such a mention on, eg, coinmarketcap.com. which is why we aren't having
this discussion about
that ~useless website ; but about
the useless and fraudulent bitfinex.com exact equivalent.
mircea_popescu: their simple existence (or rather, evidently fraudulent pretense
to existing) is
the claim whole.
davout: so,
there's no such "homemade" mention on buttfinex's menu is exactly my point
mircea_popescu: and incidentally
the disparagement of sysco-powered pitstops is based on exactly
this
davout: that's like saying because
there's bread on
the menu you expect bread be made in house
mircea_popescu: when i go and sit down in a restaurant and ask for
the menu, a certain kind of promise is made. when
the waiter doesn't go
to
the restaurant's kitchen but across
the street, sits down with my order and waits for
the waiter
to approach him, a different kind of
thing was executed
than was promised.
davout: how are buttcoins-on-an-exchange different from promises from
that exchange?
davout: buttcoins-on-an-exchange are definitionally not buttcoins-in-your-wallet,
they are promises
to put buttcoins in your wallet should you ask nicely
mircea_popescu: somehow
the entire ukistan real estate market has little problem identifying
the latter case as a scam.
mircea_popescu: the way real estate
trading works in uncivilised (ie, non
torrens) places is
that you gotta examine
the ownership chain
to establish whethere
the owner is selling what he claims (property free and clear) or otherwise "promises".
davout: whether
they come from
their organic liquidity or from someone else's liquidity
davout: well, my point re buttfinex is
that
they're simply selling you promises
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 12:07 mircea_popescu: "stuff
that doesn't exist yet" in
the sense of
the milking of
tomorrow when you own a cow is not "stuff
that doesn't exist yet" in
the sense of davout's isp
that davout neither owns nor will but for 0 reasons feels within himself a swelling indicating
that he's just as good as one who does, and
therefore in a small manner, as if by contagion, he also will. because he "could".
mircea_popescu: the original discussed whores, but whatever, let's
talk about boys for a while.
mircea_popescu: in practical
terms :
the spy is well advised
to be polite
to
the doorman ; because
the doorman will still have his job when
the spy won't have his anymore.
mircea_popescu: first of all not
the "victim" of "his own success" as it's called.
mircea_popescu: nobody looks back in 2017 and goes "shit, someone knew how
this was gonna end back in 1997"
a111: Logged on 2017-09-30 19:33 mircea_popescu: so after reich and slavski, stalin executed slansky, and malenkov beria
to no longer bother him with
the brush.
diana_coman: (n.r. : Mircea, eu nu vorbesc nici la nervi cu atatea cuvinte NSFW cum ai scris
tu, nu le vreau nici pe blog. Le-am sters de mana, dar un pic de atentie pe viitor poate nu strica
diana_coman: ahahah; I'm out of
touch with whatever columbeanus are current
mircea_popescu: "everyday substitutes for categories as provided by
tv"
mircea_popescu: and besides, he has 0 experience interacting with only-living-romanian-billionaire ; and plenty of experience interacting with... what, irinel columbeanu ? recall
the
trilema foundational myth ?