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mircea_popescu: the haskellweight of a project, how likely it is to suck brains and ideas into a black hole of nock.
mircea_popescu: of that particular kind. yes.
mircea_popescu: i mean something peculiar. not of the thing itself, but of the effect it has on heads.
mircea_popescu: of course the less nifty thing is that whether this entire pile actually works or collapses under its own haskellweight is an unknown.
mircea_popescu: with any luck, all the way to verilog.
mircea_popescu: so yeah, ada is certainly a good thing in that pot.
mircea_popescu: only when you mean something smart :D
mircea_popescu: it actually worx ?
mircea_popescu: what, whne you were raving about ada the specified, what did you think i read, exactly this, "oh, he hopes and wills to make the whole chain"
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck else was the incentive there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to no one's surprise.
mircea_popescu: for need of a name.
mircea_popescu: mod6 "ideal Bitcoin", ie the 2nd thing. i dunno just came up with it
mircea_popescu: there's also - a good db. and other things. a list should prolly be made.
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the iB : there's a number of very valuable ideas, at least in my eyes, that discussion throughout has brought out. yes the sha thing discussed on trilema ; also - ada, linked into the c, and slowly driving out the c, much in the way the vermin try to drive out say x11 or rsa etc.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason why the sort of guy that can't pass the simplest test of manhood, that pons asinorum known as the prisoner's dilemma is known as a rat.
mircea_popescu: for this reason tho.
mircea_popescu: rat.
mircea_popescu: (yes asciilifeform, "captive by local minima" is not the definition of adulthood, or of civilisation. it is the definition of rat.)
mircea_popescu: in the sense that the incentives of the vermin are modified by its projection. vermin being definitionally captive subject to incentive potential.
mircea_popescu: in this sense, a good iB in back pocket as you say plays the strategic role of "fleet in being", in that it protects the old shit from too violent a crisis.
mircea_popescu: the other's very practical : every halving is a difficult time for bitcoin. it's a more or less homeostatic structure, which means that with some periodicity will go into crisis. you don't know what crisis will rupture a vessel and give it an aneurism, but it is indubitable that the quality of alternative on offer is the best measure of its lfie expectancy.
mircea_popescu: well, there's two classes of arguments pro iB that i can readily see. one's very fundamental : the code is shit, the "grandfather pistols" thing will only go so far, it is by its nature finite in utility. eventually the trhing will have to be redone well. it is, after all, a misuded prototype.
mircea_popescu: can't sprint everything forever, it's just not possibru.
mircea_popescu: but you know, i think blind enthusiasm has carried us about as far as it will ; moreover, everything has its time and place.
mircea_popescu: they're pretty large issues.
mircea_popescu: the other point, whatever may be decided on the previous point, is to make some sort of roadmap or even ideally graph of parts and then see who can do what and so on
mircea_popescu: so one thing is you know, to come to some sort of decision on what to do there. strategy-wise, as it were.
mircea_popescu: mod6 well one major question to be decided is : obviously there's the project of cleaning up extant bitcoin code ; by the discussion re july of forks, there's also the proposal to start a separate project to make an "ideal bitcoin". this proposal wasn't ever seriously discussed and i dunno that it ever was actually accepted as such.
mircea_popescu: later
mircea_popescu: there was enough of that!
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: anyway, aite, will be sending it tomorrow. same addy as in your original deed.
mircea_popescu: dumbers!
mircea_popescu: hey frenchy, you do your math i do mine!
mircea_popescu: 134.04868891 in any case
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 199.45047737 - 0.8 - 50 - (30.00357692 -0.8)/ 2
mircea_popescu: what the everloving
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 199.45047737 - 0.8 - 50 - ((30.00357692 -0.8)/ 2)
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: rite ?
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 134.44868891 - 0.8
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 134.44868891 -.8
mircea_popescu: ffs.
mircea_popescu: ;;caulk 134.44868891 -.8
mircea_popescu: ;;google 134.44868891 -.8
mircea_popescu: davout so we're at
mircea_popescu: dig through the guy's site also, he has various extensions/improvements discussed.
mircea_popescu: python.org
mircea_popescu: mod6 if you actually care enough, iirc the site had a decent manual/tutorial
mircea_popescu: ie, instead of def sequences(blabla) def self.sequences(blabla)
mircea_popescu: maybe add some self. in defs ?
mircea_popescu: sounds like a scoping issue
mircea_popescu: that he has.
mircea_popescu: mod6 btw, dun ask to ask! i dunno python that well, but mebbe if i knew what you needed ?
mircea_popescu: makes his face all astringented.
mircea_popescu: it's because of all that kinkley he drinks
mircea_popescu: tru
mircea_popescu: but yes i think end of tunnel is right. by now we're discussing bitcents, it's pretty well pinned down.
mircea_popescu: i think some got accepted in march also
mircea_popescu: Bet started:1 month 4 days ago (11-03-2016) << i think p
mircea_popescu: since no further accepted after ?
mircea_popescu: 1st
mircea_popescu: you're easy to please :)
mircea_popescu: it does.
mircea_popescu: the use of to is confusing, but okies!
mircea_popescu: davout as a liability to bitbet / owed to me you mean ?
mircea_popescu: re gpg verification : yeah, guy's name, special char.
mircea_popescu: this is correct.
mircea_popescu: right, up to march 1st exclusive ?
mircea_popescu: you mean feb report, prev report ?
mircea_popescu: davout> thing is i can't simply do 0.1 btc * number of outstanding bets because some of the house bets expenses have *already* been accounted against the shareholders << how and where ?
mircea_popescu: jose de san martin (prolly my favourite south american) discussing the despotism of de rosas.
mircea_popescu: los inmensos gastos originados porque a cuatro ambiciosos se les antoja por vía de la especulación, hacer una revolución y quedar impunes. ¡Libertad! ¡Libertad!...Maldita sea la libertad, ni será el hijo de mi madre el que vaya a gozar de los beneficios que ella proporciona, hasta que no vea establecido un gobierno que los demagogos llamen tirano y me proteja contra los bienes que me brinda la actual libertad."
mircea_popescu: tará los resultados. ¡Libertad! Para que un hombre de honor se vea atacado por una prensa silenciosa, sin que haya leyes que lo protejan y si existen se hagan ilusorias. ¡Libertad! Para que si me dedico a cualquier género de la industria, venga una revolución que me destruya el trabajo de muchos años y la esperanza de dejar un par de bocados a mis hijos. ¡Libertad! Para que se me cargue de contribuciones a fin de pagar
mircea_popescu: "Ya es tiempo de dejarnos de teorías, que 24 años de experiencia no han producido más que calamidades. Los hombres no viven de ilusiones, sino de hechos: ¿qué me importa que se me repita hasta la saciedad que vivo en un país de libertad si por el contrario se me oprime?... ¡Libertad! désela usted a un niño de tres años para que se entretenga por vía de diversión con un estuche de navajas de afeitar, y usted me con
mircea_popescu: in other unrelated historical bits,
mircea_popescu: also known as singularily opposable contracts or w/e you call declaratory contracts in english
mircea_popescu: "infelizmente está fora da civilidade".
mircea_popescu: well if you happen to read portuguese it is obvious from the deed he does so grasp it, i thought.
mircea_popescu: your job is merely to make sure the bal peen hammer is exceptionally ball peeny.
mircea_popescu: by letting people use good tools in ways that make sense to them, and them only.
mircea_popescu: this is how science works!
mircea_popescu: content of deed is entirely imperio deedorum.
mircea_popescu: and you see a problem with this ?
mircea_popescu: some people do marry, mind.
mircea_popescu: not normally.
mircea_popescu: i sleep with women without giving them fingerprint tests!
mircea_popescu: so ?
mircea_popescu: what observation ?
mircea_popescu: obviously it's on his planet!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform inasmuch as the deal doesn't concern you, what "our" planet ?
mircea_popescu: the expression tho, "belongs to X who unfortunately is outside the walls" is pretty great.
mircea_popescu: if he wants to make it work better, he can.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a question that needs an answer. if it works for him it works!
mircea_popescu: it gotta expand somehow.
mircea_popescu: ah ah. felipelalli will have to wait a little - trinque was updating the two bots to merge into one.
mircea_popescu: be specific ?
mircea_popescu: CAR!