asciilifeform: well yeah but most recently.

asciilifeform: (no passports, come as you are, etc)

asciilifeform: e.g., shanghai before '45 or so

asciilifeform: there were, at one point, designated junkyards for this

asciilifeform: approx. aha

asciilifeform: lel

asciilifeform for instance could 'renounce' 10 times every morning before breakfast and nobody would give a shit

asciilifeform: or something.

asciilifeform: idea being that 'stateless' folk are 'victims' with 'rights' and you can't simply get that status artificially on own free will

asciilifeform: one imho interesting quirk of international convention is that most countries will not 'count' your renunciation if you don't have a spare citizenship somewhere else

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: or is that no longer a thing (as i and many others predicted)

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wasn't he formally drummed out ?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'again' ? i thought he was perma-banned

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is this one of those 'can't be taught or described' magic juices ?

asciilifeform always regarded the notion as crackpottery, that one could tell

asciilifeform: what that means.

asciilifeform: hm now i'm curious

asciilifeform: from whence comes the suspicion that it was a chick?

asciilifeform: who..?

asciilifeform: what if they misread!

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... of reading same issue of 'forbes' !1111 of course.

asciilifeform: good chances it's 100% people who know of bitcoin from 'forbes'.

asciilifeform: in the smart folx who don't show up.

asciilifeform: there is a common pattern, as ben_vulpes observed

asciilifeform: or taleb, or, ... etc.

asciilifeform: it's the usual 'we did this and it was boring, move along'

asciilifeform: naturally.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, that west

asciilifeform: davout: that is not the picture i get from your link

asciilifeform: typical. e.g., taleb. and we, to him, are indistinguishable from cosmic background noise, because 'where were you lot when we conquered the west in covered wagons, aha?'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2016/q2/322 << sooo precious

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i got to see what 'slack' was at rupturefarms.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that sounds miserable

asciilifeform: trinque: i have literally no provisions for it atm

asciilifeform: trinque: this will take some preparation

asciilifeform: dafuq is 'atom'

asciilifeform: trinque ?

asciilifeform: anyone in particular interested ?

asciilifeform: sure

asciilifeform: ah hm

asciilifeform: recall, single-pages

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's wrong with curl .... | grep ... ?

asciilifeform: l0lctor

asciilifeform: what can i do, even my trb hasn't restarted since december

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: which this

asciilifeform: 'The main Rails application that DHH created required restarting ~400 times/day. ' << he has to be joking, right ??

asciilifeform: ' << win

asciilifeform: 'Before Mongrel I was building kick ass software for the NYC Dept. of Correction with a tiny team. We were doing innovative stuff like REST XML feeds of prisoner releases and RSS of prisoner transfers. It was fun, I was in charge, and things were pretty good.

asciilifeform: iirc, a programmer-humourist sort

asciilifeform: that there's the whole life story of opensores.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-11#1465648 ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, even, i suspect, will like it.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: epic

asciilifeform: http://www.qsl.net/k0ff/BicronZnS-AgMaterialSheet/Image.JPG

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: (standard old school b&w crt phosophour)

asciilifeform: 50g of ZnS crystal from cn, incidentally, is ~$10.

asciilifeform: (mean free path of ~1cm at stp)

asciilifeform: those don't spit out alpha anyway.

asciilifeform: (and geiger has life measured in 100s hrs)

asciilifeform: which introduces own periodicity

asciilifeform: inverter.

asciilifeform: needs hv

asciilifeform: geiger sucks arse !

asciilifeform: because ZnS is neither rare nor difficult to make.

asciilifeform: and at any rate, for a reasonably low bit rate, can use backgroumd.

asciilifeform: e.g., am-241.

asciilifeform: use something with reasonably absurbly long half life

asciilifeform: 100 y.o. ones still work.

asciilifeform: dun wear out.

asciilifeform: no gas.

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: no hv inverter (unlike geiger);

asciilifeform: not geiger, not fiber, but ye olde motherfucking spinthariscope.

asciilifeform realized that the perfect rng is in fact... a spinthariscope.

asciilifeform: 'spread wide & think of england!!11'

asciilifeform: some fella's selling miles of it. usg surplus.

asciilifeform: mod6: it turned up.

asciilifeform: brb.

asciilifeform: my scintillator fibre is here.

asciilifeform: in other nyooz,

asciilifeform: so nobody's gonna be signing anything with that key.

asciilifeform: rjh is one of the mirrored-phuctored folk btw.

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gnupg/users/75955?page=last << phuctor lulz

asciilifeform: iirc she is bernstein's coauthor in pretty much everything, also.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha

asciilifeform: unrelatedly, http://cse.iitkgp.ac.in/Events/IndoCrypt08/Dec-15-2008/images/html/dscf5311.html

asciilifeform: 'let them eat cake' (tm) (r)

asciilifeform: why not 'breathe fire at the enemy'

asciilifeform: brilliant, never-before thought of pill !111111

asciilifeform: thing is, the boss in the link is not a complete idiot, so much as the mere fact of a 'harassment' suit can sink a small firm.

asciilifeform: waiwut

asciilifeform: thus it is quite ordinary for folks who so much as fall under suspicion to be sacked

asciilifeform: re: the hn thread and 'her-assment' - folks living under usg are quite like children under drunkard father - they learn to 'build fences' (orthodox jew concept) around 'what might upset him'

asciilifeform: naturally.

asciilifeform: my current understanding is that it is nearly certain that a summer intern has been sent to write a usg c-s.

asciilifeform: lel

asciilifeform: http://valerieaurora.org/hash.html << moar lulz.

asciilifeform: http://people.item.ntnu.no/~danilog/Hash/Non-random-behaviour-narrow-pipe-designs-03.pdf << interesting re 'whitening' etc. (tldr: no known hash behaves like 'random oracle', demonstrably)

asciilifeform: anyway - whole thing eminently worth reading.