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mod6: i guess this thought was sort of
a work in progress.
trinque: that calls for
a second screen which would group by deed and list the sigs
mod6: that way it sort of also solves the problem of keeping track of who signed which patch. since deedbot stores these sigs in
a horizontal fashion next to the address.
trinque: mircea_popescu: he's considering
a case where the thing would be able to accept new detached sigs for existing deeds
mod6: oh, i think he was saying that he would need to implement accepting
a second argument and making it so that the URL contains
a hash of the original plaintext patch.
mod6: but what if we then, say, at the end of
a testing/release cycle were to (instead of signing or as well as posting to the mailing list) post the plaintext patch and
a detach signature from the originating author, myself & ben to deedbot as
a perm storage for these patches?
mod6: ok so was kinda thinking about something here... so we all love to hate the mailing list in
a way - but it's
a decent spot to post new things, experimental, SoBAs etc. But it's not good for keeping track of patches that /actually/ are accepted and
a part of
a given "release".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform truth be told : do you find this interesting for any other reason than the vague whiff of
a promise of perhaps allowing you toi make btc chips /
☟︎ Adlai: being able to grow
a beard should suffice
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It appears years in the future. I imagine Adlai will prolly get an emacs client first. Or I'll get
a sacrificial linux machine first (sacrificial linux machine is tiered below box to colo cheap for infrastructure BTC node).
mircea_popescu: "My VLSI tools take
a chip from conception through testing. Perhaps 500 lines of source code. Cadence, Mentor Graphics do the same, more or less. With how much source/object code?"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo chetty spent two years for
a result in parts no different.
mircea_popescu: but it does seem to me very much akin to
a "hey, if you salt
a fresh frog leg you can electrocute it into moving". cool! but instead i order my slaves to read and summarize for me!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Probably only on PPC. PPC got
a lot of cool stuff. Perhaps not across whole PPC run though. Will have to look into.
mircea_popescu: sit there and debug off-by-one errors in
a pile of asm ?
mircea_popescu: why would i make
a "construct" in the language that does i+2
mircea_popescu: "If you can write 'if' in FORTH, then why restrict 44 yourself to the usual if/while/for/switch constructs? You want
a construct that iterates 45 over every other element in
a list of numbers? You can add it to the language."
mats: win10 has
a package manager
shinohai: My thoughts as well. I'll throw up
a webserver or stuff like that on there. But those sorts of postings are
a big nope for me.
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 21:50:14; ascii_field: danielpbarron: he was
a relatively early 'computer sucks and must be rebuilt' person. sadly, i've no idea what he is up to these days.
mircea_popescu: jurov ie, like being in procust's bed, crushed by
a giant to fit.
assbot: Peripateticists, kinda, except girls not boys, bare cunt instead of toga and walking around the house not the garden, but otherwise exactly the same. on Trilema -
A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1Iqucbd )
ascii_field: 'If the regulators really do get their way, functioning dishwashers could become like high-flow toilets: contraband to be snuck across borders and sold at
a high black market prices.'
ascii_field: 'Welcome to regulated America, where once fabulous consumer inventions like refrigerators, freezers, washing machines, and dishwashers have been reduced to
a barely functioning state. The reasons are always the same: 1) phosphorous-free detergent, 2)
a fetish with saving water, 3) weaker motors that use less electricity, 4) more tepid water due to low default settings on hot water heaters, and 5) reduced water pressure in
☟︎ ascii_field: there is not
a 1:1 mapping between sigs & patches
ascii_field: throw hashes in deedbot, sure. or even uuencodes. but to make it
a canonical repository of anything else, is
a microscope-hammer.
mod6: ok so another question i have about the deedbot way.. would be: if we submit
a patch to deedbot, how do we tie
a message to that same submission? say we wanna be like "Hey, this thing is neat!" Will it need to reference anothe deedbot submission or does the patch have to come after our statment in the clearsigned message?
mod6: <+jurov> mod6 decrypt on *clearsigned* file << this indeed works. created file
A.txt. copied
A.txt to B.txt and subtracted some lines. created
a unified diff of both. clearsigned the diff -- which is mutilated for escaped hyphens. upon `gpg --decrypt` of the clearsigned output patch file, i get the same hash as the pre-clearsigned hash file.
mircea_popescu: and opbvciously, with
a checkbox "allow this antecedent"
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> already sounds like
a quantum leap tbh << it is.
mircea_popescu: i knew this was
a tooling problem mostly. pretty much 99% of all that's needed is already here.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 ^ give that
a long think. << i like this idea with the wot graph + source patches as
a tree next to it so relations can be easily seen & drilled into.
mircea_popescu: trinque and with
a bonus "click here for this patch" and "click here for this patch + all its antecedents" spew.
mircea_popescu: have all the wot listed on the side. have all the patches AS
A TREE listed next to it. have relations from wot tyo patches.
ascii_field: that's because the output of 'encrypt' is
a base64 turd that isn't expected to coexist with text the way
a clearsigned string is.
ascii_field: in that it is impossible for the machine to determine that
a particular '- -' is to be transformed into
a '-' or not
ascii_field: jurov: the problem is that gpg 'escaping' is not
a reversible operation
mircea_popescu: and ideally, have it spit out
a "final version" with regressions accessible through some procedure (clicking)
mircea_popescu: but i guess the consensus is pointing towards, ml gets restated with antecedents, trinque writes
a grapher for it all ?
☟︎ mod6: <+mircea_popescu>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225956 << maybe i've nbot given consideration enough time, but it seems to me that if something can not be made into
a text file, that something can't be part of
a computer program. the making/demaking necessarily can be automated. << i didn't understand that this problem could be side-stepped with gpg --decrypt
☝︎ mircea_popescu: if it stays as
a ml, becomes
a wiki, somehow otherwise including deedbot or not changes i do not care per se
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 18:56:41; ascii_field: who thought this was
a good idea, and why
ascii_field: jurov: possibly this is
a bug triggered by locale
ascii_field: but i promise to post
a sample next time it pops up
mircea_popescu:
a magical distillate whereby i can read it and programs don't rape it. binartytext.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Gavin doesn't know how mining works or is
a liar.
mircea_popescu: on the face seems more of gavin-the-retard having "studies" and "Economists agree" and "industreew support" bs "if we say it then it becomes
a thing because magic is magic" stuff
ascii_field: 'i meant what i said, and i said what i meant,
a walrus is certain
a hundred percent'. go, rape, but that wasn't what i signed wazzit.
ascii_field: hence why i insist that
a turdatron must support 'binaries'
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 15:27:45; trinque: the requirement that signed and deeded patches be the primary representation of
a contribution great appeal though, for obvious reasons
mod6: i had
a neighbor once who showed me his amiga. never stopped raving about it.
shinohai: I refuse to buy
a Windows box just to play
a game.
mod6 slaps shinohai with
a large unix manual
mod6: please ensure that you are running x86_64 by doing `uname -
a`
shinohai: nw, vm building was
a bit slow but I chalk it up to Ubuntu bloat.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'd be all for
a special "all open" client if you feel like doing this
mircea_popescu: honestly i don't even recall how or why cg is in there. mebbe chetty can shed
a light
ben_vulpes: with his lips, sucking on it tenderly, licking along its lower side . . . he is thinking, he’s sorry, he can’t help it, thinking of
a Negro’s penis, yes he knows it abrogates part of the conditions set, but it will not be denied, the image of
a brute African who will make him behave. . . . The stink of shit floods his nose, gathering him, surrounding. It is the smell of Passchendaele, of the Salient. Mixed with the mud, and the
ben_vulpes: But thoughtful Pointsman, anticipating this, has been sending laxative pills with her meals. Now her intestines whine softly, and she feels shit begin to slide down and out. He kneels with his arms up holding the rich cape.
A dark turd appears out the crevice, out of the absolute darkness between her white buttocks. He spreads his knees, awkwardly, until he can feel the leather of her boots. He leans forward to surround the hot turd
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << how aboot i buy you
a vidcard ? Hard to stick in portable machine. Also problem isn't machine. Problem is cg isn't available as source or for OpenBDSM
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 08:27:03; BingoBoingo: I jsut need to find
a way to build it without Nvidia cg toolkit.