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asciilifeform: https://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html << device for fitting it into a head
asciilifeform: a ~reasonable~ scheme is about 1000 lines of c.
asciilifeform: and 3) great student exercise, where the kids won't demand to hear why both 'elt' and 'nth' exist (perennial retardation example from cl, which was born in a 'no vendor left behind' multi-turdculturist compromise)
asciilifeform: scheme remains 1) a very clean scripting language to embed in another proggy 2) a very spiffy starting point for a future lisp (including hardware)
asciilifeform: landing in a kind of 'worst of both worlds' valley
asciilifeform: this was mostly understood by the enthusiasts around a decade ago, but some of the response was also pathological: 'let's bolt on a huge turd of a standard library'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229675 << complicated. scheme is an example of a 'suckless movement' that didn't catch on. that is, 'throw out all the legacy crud', but after that the thing has to be inhabited. if not inhabited, then dies young, while leaving, yes, beautiful corpse ☝︎
asciilifeform: those who have a field nearby - do only this!
asciilifeform: (in the locales in usa where shooting galleries are even a thing)
mircea_popescu: fortunately this is a point that won't take a second pass to explain to the chinese. or, for the most part, to the russians.
mircea_popescu: help the guy draw the spec document and then let him do it, free a hand
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 22:44:28; trinque: mircea_popescu: thought here is to image a USB drive, and have that thing be able to push-button image a computer it has booted
trinque departs for a bit
trinque: latter seems appropriate for a student
assbot: 506 results for 'scheme' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=scheme
mircea_popescu: was there a "lisp for 12 yos" anywhere ?
trinque: and that's been the rub I think; what's the answer for a developer that shows up, and what's the answer for someone that wants to turn his life around
mircea_popescu: yeah. someone who deeply understands emacs could write a 100 page READABLE! INTERESTING! EMPOWERING! guide to emacs for it.
mircea_popescu: should probably include an x and a sound, at least eventually.
mircea_popescu: (in a jar, in a lab, in which someone put glucose. of course.)
mircea_popescu: if he iomagines that screeching pile of a failure mode is "lessons learned" and whatnot...
mircea_popescu: for that matter, eulora is not pve, it's evp. in point of fact player activity will attract environment challenges. you build a house, ogres come to it sort of thing.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229502 << i am, and i did, and i see no problem with any of this. you may go to a museum whether you wish to take notes or draw copies, why should anyone care ? "oh but the statues were expensive to make, how dare you write abnout them, you should draw! el minimo respeto!!11" ?? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 19:03:22; ben_vulpes: i imagined a path the other night where chetty actually stopped maintaining her owhn client
mircea_popescu: this "progress" bullshit is dumb and must die. there's nothing in the future but a buggy, half assed, stupid reimplementation of the past.
chetty: nest we will need a time machine
trinque: mircea_popescu: thought here is to image a USB drive, and have that thing be able to push-button image a computer it has booted ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you want to play, get a real card. FROM THE PAST.
trinque: I have put some work into this today. I converted mod6's guide to a script which builds a bootable root.img
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 18:13:49; ascii_field: mircea_popescu, mod6, ben_vulpes, et al: diff -uNr a b | awk 'm = /^(---|\+\+\+)/{s="sha512sum \"" $2 "\" 2>/dev/null " | getline x; if (s) { split(x, a, " "); o = a[1]; } else {o = "false";} print $0 " " o} !m { print $0 }'
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 18:12:58; ben_vulpes: i'd not mind learning a bit more about the thing so's i can have some fun automating it
thestringpuller: lol. playing a game isn't a requisite for reading about it?
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: you ever play a tale in the desert?
trinque: ben_vulpes: "seeking a flat structure was a misperception of what self-management means" << wahahahaha
chetty: <ben_vulpes> in favor of a few different text based ones//I like it
ben_vulpes: gentoo rpg is now just a subquest of bitcoinrpg
danielpbarron: every /explore is a chance to get $MAXINT (no, seriously)
ben_vulpes: how then to hold territory i guess is a question
ascii_field: ask mircea_popescu, who paid a pretty penny to commission the graphics
ascii_field: what, it'll be a '80s mud ?
ben_vulpes: in favor of a few different text based ones
ben_vulpes: i imagined a path the other night where chetty actually stopped maintaining her owhn client ☟︎
ben_vulpes: seems like a similar approach to what trb and eulora are doing
assbot: The “Gentoo Reference System” suite: a new Release Engineering tool. | Anthony G. Basile ... ( http://bit.ly/1KW0WPs )
ben_vulpes: https://blogs.gentoo.org/blueness/2015/07/31/the-gentoo-reference-system-suite-a-new-release-engineering-tool/
shinohai hopes ascii_field will post a rotor build log for arm folks soon ...
trinque: can't just fart a bunch of command into it like an interpreter
ben_vulpes: who knows, we may have to take a dependency on forthos too
trinque: ben_vulpes: also happens to have an installer that isn't a field of broken glass
ben_vulpes: mod6 has a hardon for openbsd
assbot: La Serenissima fender flags: a modest proposal | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1IwmpbS )
jurov: http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/06/la-serenissima-fender-flags-a-modest-proposal/#comment-25365 hahahahaha
assbot: Call off the bee-pocalypse: U.S. honeybee colonies hit a 20-year high - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1KVYqZK )
punkman: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/07/23/call-off-the-bee-pocalypse-u-s-honeybee-colonies-hit-a-20-year-high/
ben_vulpes: i'll have to cook up a test case or so
ascii_field: ergo is a complete solution to the antecedent-embedding diff which i suggested to mircea_popescu earlier this week.
ascii_field: this inserts 'false' in place of sha512's of files which do not exist in a (or b)
ascii_field: mircea_popescu, mod6, ben_vulpes, et al: diff -uNr a b | awk 'm = /^(---|\+\+\+)/{s="sha512sum \"" $2 "\" 2>/dev/null " | getline x; if (s) { split(x, a, " "); o = a[1]; } else {o = "false";} print $0 " " o} !m { print $0 }' ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i'd not mind learning a bit more about the thing so's i can have some fun automating it ☟︎
danielpbarron: and coming soon, a mining bot
ascii_field: i did too. a 'stratasys' was sold for a couplea hundy at my university's surplus shop
ascii_field: 'Except... it isn't. Ahh, that exquisite flavour on the roof of your mouth, when "Automatic Updates" pops up a textbox to "inform" you that your OS is "no longer supported"v which can not be closed because the process that spawned it died in a "futex wait me" state as if this is actually a fucking thing, and then it can't be turned off, because if one goes to follow the process that supposedly turns it off that one
trinque: in the case of people wanting to join the WoT and have a real computer, not so great
trinque: right, thing needs a damn on-ramp
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 13:13:30; mircea_popescu: <n6> Um, I'm in way over my head and going on 17 hours of gentoo << take your picture with your sad face next to a screen with gentoo failing on it, i'll pay you 0.1 BTC. just to prove a point.
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 14:28:09; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's what i want to accomplish, as a goal : i want to be able to put up a linux system, then go curl http://trilema.com/autobitcoin.sh | gpg -verify > autobitcoin.sh. and then run that autobitcoin.sh, which auto-follows the changes of people i have selected for this task, builds them and runs them
mircea_popescu: well, it can be a signed binary, but only after it is a pile of source.
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 06:26:16; trinque: is this problem solved by someone just signing a disk image and being done with it?
trinque: sounds like a disk image and accompanying livecd which can deploy it
mircea_popescu: "One campaign unit of fire was sufficient ammunition for one campaign - generally understood to be a three month supply.(21) This called for the following rounds per weapon: 1,000 rounds per field piece, 25,000 rounds per machine gun, and 240 rounds per rifle." << contrary to what one would expect on the basis of "aciton movies", the expected rate of fire of a rifle in war is ~2 shots/day.
mircea_popescu: would have made japan into a sort of north korea.
mircea_popescu: "The strategy for Ketsu-Go was outlined in an 8 April 1945 Army Directive.(4) It stated that the Imperial Army would endeavor to crush the Americans while the invasion force was still at sea. They planned to deliver a decisive blow against the American naval force by initially destroying as many carriers as possible, utilizing the special attack forces of the Air Force and Navy. When the amphibious force approached wit
shinohai: I don't think that guy coud get *any* project off the ground. Darkwallet is a fail for sure.
mircea_popescu: the only difference being that the usg was not either powerful enough or attentive enough to give a shit either way about consoles in the 80s.
mike_c: I'm not so worried about +ev though. I already have a job.
mircea_popescu: what doesn't work is the 'i made a level in five minutes so i'll make 500 levels in 20 hours' linear thing from grinder mmorpgs.
mircea_popescu: and you can always mine, and low q mined stuff fetches a high % premium relative to their net value
mircea_popescu: did i ever get you a starter package ?
mike_c: It seems like I would love it like I love Total War - If I have 20 hours a week to play it would be awesome.
mike_c: A good question. Short answer - yes. Long answer, I wonder if Eulora in its current state is good for a casual/short-on-time gamer.
mike_c: Just a contrarian. I have no idea if it's headed to 80 or 40.
mike_c: mpoe flirting with 60.. what a bull run.
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BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1228860 << if you actually got bit by a coyote you must go get your rabies shots right now. the chickenshits don't dare attack humans, especially not adult males or when they're alone. << "acting" work of fiction it seems. ☝︎
assbot: Mad Science Writer: The foreskin: Why is it such a secret in North America? ... ( http://bit.ly/1MS9K9s )
mircea_popescu: http://madsciencewriter.blogspot.com.ar/2013/05/the-foreskin-why-is-it-such-secret-in.html << this is an excellent anatomy write-up but (as is common for the past five centuries for some reason), a very poor phisiopathology write-up. of particular note : phimosis IS an actual pathologic state even if broadly misused. and dxo and a number of other genuine afflictions of the prepuce do legitimately exist.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes works on a railroad ?!!!
asciilifeform: rather like a truck or a train, the design cannot be too insane
ben_vulpes: anyways, i'm off to coffee, breakfast, fire a girl, do the work she was supposed to do, and then the burbs for a sales meeting
mircea_popescu: you will perhaps notice wireshark is taking a saner view of btc protocol than the power rangers
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't exactly know how they'd do a better job
asciilifeform: speaking of tape, i've always lamented that no one sells a reel-to-reel for modern pc
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a) i don't know any formats and b) i stopped expecting things to behave in any particular way when i realized that "tar" is "tape archive"
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 14:52:22; mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do not be surprised that cli tools do not put out stuff in a format you don't know
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229230 <<< isn't this a good use case for your pipes, using sed & awk ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: just when i though i'd have to write a mod for it
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do not be surprised that cli tools do not put out stuff in a format you don't know ☟︎
mircea_popescu: “Why should I only get this handout only the months that I attend school?” Explaining that he needs money for going out with his friends and buying clothes all year round, the young author concluded: “I don’t have anything against working. But if the government doesn’t make sure that I have a job, it is their responsibility to pay me the handouts all year around”.
ben_vulpes: i took a brief hack at figuring out how to parse pcap dumps, but not very successfully
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: sadly not. and probably won't today. writing most of a pc os for $redacted.