asciilifeform: and i have nfi what the motivation for vacuuming up most of the relevant folk, was. my entire point was that the motivation remains, to me, a mystery.
asciilifeform: collecting su defectors was very much a pre-2001 thing
asciilifeform: alternative would be what..? that everyone was stolen with a clear purpose ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall, this turned into a disastrous scandal, when (quite plausibly, and with much courtroom wankery to follow) was leaked.
asciilifeform: and sent him (why? ask them , not me) to deliver the schems
asciilifeform: well the interesting bit, iirc, is that it was not 'job interview' in the customary sense, usg had no intention of actually using the fella in the stated capacity, they simply wanted a plausible-looking piece of shit to 'hangout leak' to ir. so they took his, and munged the component values for good measure
asciilifeform: and when he had done this, the result was judged and the milking deemed concluded.
asciilifeform: iirc there was a specific report of what milking consisted of - he was sent to los alamos and asked to design detonator for nuke, and told that it would be tried, and had better be of quality
asciilifeform: he: 'i need a job' usg: 'you will be mule to ir'
asciilifeform: taken to usa, and milked, and eventually handlers concluded 'useless, what we have >= what he has, on all subj'
asciilifeform: the one sent to ir with doctored schematics, which he 'helpfully' fixed en route
asciilifeform: the example currently in my head is the ru nuke detonator bloke
asciilifeform: 'emptied', to somebody running agents, is sort of same as empty applied to bottle of vodka - yes, '40 drops rule', you can keep shaking it and get >0 output almost asymptotically infinitely - but at some point the expense of the effort is > yield
asciilifeform: then wtf is cn doing shipping anything to this here zimbabwe
asciilifeform: in so far as i can tell from my pit, they only need usd, and only need it because of an elaborate chumpatron which encompasses ~everyone
