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scriba: Logged on 2018-01-05: [19:03:26] <mircea_popescu>
as i say -- i see no way out here ; we'll end up with the v-code + blog-commentary ostrich-camel and god help us./
mircea_popescu: absolute ban on english
as an avenue to this much in the same way absolute ban to barking
as an avenue to opera. i don't care if you're a dog and i don't care if barking comes naturally to you
a111: Logged on 2018-01-05 07:03 mircea_popescu: other than the lovely "if you launched all pantsuit in outer space, do you expect seti would manage to find any ?" putdown, valuable lesson from naggum : inept bureaucrats / insufferable cucks / other "people themselves" try to barnacle their inept nonsense (in original, scheme) on pre-existing "brand" (
as they perceive it ; in the original -- lisp) for the transparently transactional reason that this way they "get to" (
as th
mircea_popescu: and since this was mentioned : "kantian ethics", ie the item on which lazy-because-dumb-because-lazy-because-dumb-because esltards have gelled in their attempt to
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764883 ie spuriously pretend "oh, WE ALREADY DID KANT!!" etc is about
as relevant to the man's work
as newtonian alchemy is relevant to newton's work.
☝︎ trinque: by simply naming the files that would've received the junk-comments
as antecedents, with hash of their expected state
trinque: this is nonsense. people can choose any prior state whatsoever
as basis for a new patch.
trinque: you do not see how it's fundamentally retarded to consider db.cpp a distinct thing, rather than the scroll "trb"
as the *thing*
trinque: how does this not expand to still more antecedents dragged into child patch
as time goes on?
ben_vulpes: (ch 4 puzzle accessible to noob
as well, but still took me much grinding of headgears)
ben_vulpes: i'll noodle on it
as appropriate, sure
a111: Logged on 2018-01-05 15:40 mod6: I went through each one, looks to be doing the sane thing. I'm probably going to write it up in a little post that can be looked at,
as opposed to trying to explain all of that in 3 lines of irc.
ben_vulpes: it is fine to leave the tempdir in place so long
as it is uniquely named
a111: Logged on 2018-01-05 15:40 mod6: I went through each one, looks to be doing the sane thing. I'm probably going to write it up in a little post that can be looked at,
as opposed to trying to explain all of that in 3 lines of irc.
mod6: it sounds like my idea of "have something of a corpus to look at after failure" isn't
as handy
as simply just throwing it out.
mod6: maybe mktmpdir is sound for that. however, i remember discussing that before
as well..and one fear that i had is that if you use mktmpdir, then you have a /tmp/23429adfsew32 dir.
mircea_popescu: that is the "plaintext", that comes out
as the other plaintext, displayed (via the ~yet other~ plaintext, the html)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform neh! i have a magic box, into which i pour the transcendent substance that makes trilema. it comes out
as ascii yes, but how is it plain.
mod6: and the details of what the change is to do are clear so I can implement them
as such.
mod6: anyway, im fine with changing whatever, just
as long
as we all agree.
mircea_popescu:
as i say -- i see no way out here ; we'll end up with the v-code + blog-commentary ostrich-camel and god help us./
mod6: <+asciilifeform> second ,
as in the case discussed in the thread, if a run aborts, it creates a mine for next run to step on. << try to realize that this is on-purpose. im certain that we've had this discussion before and what exists is the outcome of that discussion.
mircea_popescu: it's actually SO BAD that people go re-implement the same damned X thing for the 90th time
as a substitute of commentary ; and nobody looking understands wtf that is.
mircea_popescu: in any case, here's the logic : the proximate cause of the failure of "computer science" to amount to 0 (not epsilon, 0) since its inception is strictly due to poor treatment of comments
as 2nd class item in code.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: there's a reason your father+grandfather haven't amounted to
as much of a fart
as a workable os.
mircea_popescu: this is a sad state of affairs,
as it limits v utility drastically ; neverthless -- commentary will be ok, long predated either v or code. code is more fragile.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-05 09:56 diana_coman: which is perfectly fine with me for code; it's still grating for comments and I'm not sure how this will resolve, it sort of pushes comments out of code (to a place where one can read them
as text not
as code-which-they-are-not)
ben_vulpes: then at that point the historical perspective was obviously necessary and i've simply never seen modern arch's
as anything other than complexity madness in search of itty bitty performance gains on systems nobody can actually reason about
ben_vulpes: it all strikes me
as so very silly on the surface but i have a weird lens of not having thought about any of the related shit until ~2013 and even then only through republican eyes
mod6: I went through each one, looks to be doing the sane thing. I'm probably going to write it up in a little post that can be looked at,
as opposed to trying to explain all of that in 3 lines of irc.
☟︎☟︎ BingoBoingo: Except no "nao" doesn't read
as the same thing it did pre Uruguay
shinohai: lisp works
as a scripting language, neh
diana_coman:
as long
as it doesn't basically cripple me to everything else, I can use it, sure
diana_coman:
as a side note, that's precisely why I did *not* adopt emacs in the end despite liking it quite a lot when met it at uni: it was VERY useful indeed but the sort of useful that was too close to addictive for my liking essentially
diana_coman: so basically columns newspaper style,
as I was saying yesterday, yes; inevitably, if 80 cols, ofc
diana_coman: ah, should have been precise there: they don't make a difference for me at this stage; I can stick to 80 just
as I can stick to 76 really
diana_coman: which is perfectly fine with me for code; it's still grating for comments and I'm not sure how this will resolve, it sort of pushes comments out of code (to a place where one can read them
as text not
as code-which-they-are-not)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: these letters from a time before empire-of-idiots was formalized and understood
as such are about
as fascinating
as a child's experience from before it understood any mechanics at all.
mircea_popescu: ey perceive it) blame all their (ample) shortcomings on the hulk barnacled while claiming all the (scant) benefit
as own.
mircea_popescu: other than the lovely "if you launched all pantsuit in outer space, do you expect seti would manage to find any ?" putdown, valuable lesson from naggum : inept bureaucrats / insufferable cucks / other "people themselves" try to barnacle their inept nonsense (in original, scheme) on pre-existing "brand" (
as they perceive it ; in the original -- lisp) for the transparently transactional reason that this way they "get to" (
as th
☟︎ mircea_popescu: moreover! while there's just
as many integers with the 1337th bit set
as there are with it nul, nevertheless it's trivially not the case that there's just
as many 2048 bit prime numbers with it set
as there are with it null.
mircea_popescu: if your magic maker uses say 2044 bits of input, therefore you have half
as many possible states than i do!
mircea_popescu: i'm dealing with "four rounds of m-r and a 5th fixed with 2, so
as to fix the cone of blindness" bs and you want me to care about the 2047th bit ?
mircea_popescu: (and there was some idiot sheila from down below years ago ; i recall lulzing in the logs
as to how this wonder will drive rapist to a) probe and b) beat into a squirming, faceless mess any bitch dumb enough to go around with it)
mircea_popescu: phf i've little problem with people writing code in whatever line lengths they want to. but comments of arbitrary cut are infuriating (though admittedly 80col not nearly so much
as 50whatever)
mircea_popescu: phf a 120 col line will contain a number of words distriburted around 23.7 ; this means your spaces being elastic works to some degree. i will hold up trilema
as an example of this, would you say elastic spaces are not working for it ?
phf: when you eliminate hyphenation
as a concern, you're just left with elastic spaces, but you don't have those in monospace plain text. you just have full sized spaces, but their granularity is so high
as to be almost useless
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the naggum quote above : a better statement would be to say that every problem comes with an iq functional which could be approximated
as a (x-fiq)^3 + b(x-fiq) ; the a, b and fiq are parameters of the problem, the x is where the solver's iq goes. if his iq is lower than the fiq required by the problem, his "work" comes out negative.
mircea_popescu: "intelligence is only a labor-saving device. less intelligent people can in principle create just
as elegant solutions, but it would normally take them more effort to get there." <<< ajhaha NO! FUCKING! WAY!
mircea_popescu: it's not even "i wrote something that DIDNT WORK". that, is one thing. here, he wrote something, he evaluated it
as "works", BUT.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 15:55 phf: heh "Classification of Dugin
as a fascist is justified, regardless of the fact that today the MGU professor frequently speaks not
as a primitive ethnocentrist or biological racist. (...) By «fascist» we understand the «generic» meaning of the concept, used in comparatory research of contemporary right-wing extremism by such well-known historians-comparativists [etc.]
mircea_popescu: is not intended
as a final implementation." (the original 80wrap braindamage has been fixed). I CAN SCARCELY APPREHEND ETC
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763745 << /me dutifully follows, and duly falls upon "2) What was not implemented until recently was functions returning unconstrained arrays. This is a very tricky thing to do,
as I'll describe in a moment. The week before Tri-Ada, I added a temporary, kludgy implementation to GNAT. About the only thing it had to say for itself is that it worked, but it creates serious memory leaks. It
☝︎ mircea_popescu: well, basically without that you end up with the femstate,
as the next stop on the stupid tree. "can expropriate anything for public interest but cunt" results in the bizarro alt-world in usgstan.
mircea_popescu realises that tmsr is principally an imperative programming language for actual intelligence (
as opposed to the artificial kind) build around the "consider" statement.
phf: well, it died from disinterest at some point, before the recent upswing of concerned citizens revived it
as an excellent platform for cancer
mircea_popescu: well, judging by the fact that it was socialist war not imperial (
as the historical term) war, i would conjecture the latter.
mircea_popescu: this is a subtle matter. did they banzai "because such world
as it is not worth my time" or did they "because her world must be defended!"
mircea_popescu: and we're discussing here things such
as athletic events (which yes, naked boys).