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a111: Logged on 2018-04-11 15:47 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796242 << this is a problem of how you phrase your questions. see, the fundamental, and apparently enduring, cockroach here is that you have an "in-control" mental model you won't diverge from, and it is disabling for your mental process in the following way : you judge "you can't contribute" arbitrarily, and damagingly, in the exact sense contemplated in http://trilema.com/2014/a-conceit-or
a111: Logged on 2018-04-11 15:38 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796216 << the whole thing is phrased as "asking questions". one can never be in a rabbit hole so deep they can't ask questions. it's not your job to make any determination, so why stress.
trinque: mircea_popescu: still doesn't want to talk to me on either
shinohai: Don't want to use process restarter on this box ben_vulpes ... if it goes down I'd rather know why. I don't really trust atlantic anymore tbh
ben_vulpes: lobbes: didn't you have a simple process-restarter?
asciilifeform: and i will note , folx like to spit on laptopism, but it is a necessary evil, and asciilifeform for one would like to have a reasonably lappy one day that doesn't weigh 3kg and doesn't eat a 150bux battery erry 3months
shinohai: I dont want to bring the old bot back tbh, new one isn't finished. But will log into shell and restart for the 500th time shortly
mircea_popescu: "* don't take the output of a CSPRNG and pass it through RC4" should have been "don't whiten, fucktard"
mircea_popescu: heyleeecx think about it : you spent however long, 20 years doing what your parents told you, and what's it got you ? a lot of pressure ? the sad situation where you don't know what to do with yourself ?
BingoBoingo: Wait, are trying to take over or carve out a safe space to act with impunity? I guess really there isn't a difference.
mircea_popescu: can't see that without thinking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIu4fP4fOHE
kittycollector: I don't think mine could survive outside at this point
kittycollector: I haven't, seems like its a touchy area at the moment though.
kittycollector: Again I appologize, I didn't mean for it to happen. Have a break at work now.
mircea_popescu: yes, but if you don't work and if you don't study, how do you obtain the things that you eat.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo doesn't she want titmoney ? << Maybe? I am inclined to wait until she tires of paying for things to present the opportunity or I get bored. She's español as a single language and does not understand technology.
phf: asciilifeform: don't need google translate for that one, can just use btcbase :p
a111: Logged on 2018-04-11 14:55 spyked: anyway, I can see mircea_popescu's point re "but unlike gossipd, this broken implementation exists!". but unlike, say, Bitcoin, which, broken implementations or not, I can understand by going to the sources, this I can't, at least not without getting myself deep into the slime pit.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo doesn't she want titmoney ?
mircea_popescu: next time they won't fucking do the dumb.
mircea_popescu: (and this is also why i pronounced http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-one/ as the ultimate hero : because he, unlike "the smarter" lot of them, actually wanted a girlfriend TO USE HER, not so that his dumb head can finally function, oh, $woman-in-head is here to tell me all will be ok, now i can pour myself a glass of milk whereas before--couldn't. this much is categorical advan
BingoBoingo: In other news after spending a Uruguayo/a free night slaying the Inca in bed my mood is not quite so dismal. As long as there's no "want of a nail" cascades alf shouldn't be greeted by Eeyore. This still does nothing to solve the indexing problem.
BingoBoingo: Right, even a classic algo strictly Pagerank google whitelisted to the WoT still wouldn't grep with nuance
mircea_popescu: i need better indexing, and i don't know how the fuck to make it ;/
BingoBoingo: I am guessing it probably isn't http://trilema.com/2014/what-interests-me-in-a-project/
mircea_popescu: and now i can't fucking find the core reference of this discussion, whether it was on trilema or in the log i don't remember, but it examined how would i have evaluated the eventual utility of $item at early stage, and made the point indeed very well.
mircea_popescu: now, it's evident where this misrepresentation of intellectual process comes from -- the inept notion of caregivers kid should be "responsible". kid shouldn't be nor is responsible in that sense ; if one of my girls sets the house on fire through unforeseen effect of reasonable application of item, she may feel guilty as a residual side effect of the sexual abuse her parents and broader society put her through, but she won't
mircea_popescu: sense, the sense whereby the enemy can't rely on freinds within the walls.
mircea_popescu: and the issue repeats with questions, "i don't know what question to ask such that the response puts me in full control of everything" is not a valid mapping for "i don't know what questions to ask". you've seen me n times ask questions ~about the thing~, ie, to allow the thing to be illuminated, irrespective of whether they "help" me to anything. cuz i don't care about myself ~in this sense~. i care about myself in the other
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796242 << this is a problem of how you phrase your questions. see, the fundamental, and apparently enduring, cockroach here is that you have an "in-control" mental model you won't diverge from, and it is disabling for your mental process in the following way : you judge "you can't contribute" arbitrarily, and damagingly, in the exact sense contemplated in http://trilema.com/2014/a-conceit-or ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-11 10:39 shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796166 <<< I think the time for grace has passed, and if it isn't clear enough already I won't be wasting anymore time participating in Republican affairs since obviously I have nothing else to contribute. I did, in fact, offer to help you add the gribble functions to your bot or share my version of the plugins (Which incidentally, don't require any of the stuff you
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796216 << the whole thing is phrased as "asking questions". one can never be in a rabbit hole so deep they can't ask questions. it's not your job to make any determination, so why stress. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796214 << yes, except for the part where "hashrate is gonna protect you". the whole POINT of taking some of the information OUT of the blockchain is to try and reduce the protection of hashrate, and make everyone dependent on protection by non-hashrate. which is WHY this is usg move against bitcoin. i don't need no stinking fuckwit to "help me", and i don't care why he thinks i do. i know wh ☝︎
spyked: anyway, I can see mircea_popescu's point re "but unlike gossipd, this broken implementation exists!". but unlike, say, Bitcoin, which, broken implementations or not, I can understand by going to the sources, this I can't, at least not without getting myself deep into the slime pit. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i do not have anything against mechanized proof per se. but in practice it is in ~100% of published cases used as an attempted 'i can't believe it's not self-evident correctness!' margarinesque substitute for fits-in-head.
shinohai: mentioned here: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795655). But if that, and things like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795655 are throwing you for such a loop, I don't imagine my plugins will help you at all. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-11 06:07 lobbes: ^ que pasa contigo, shinohai? There's a way to step back gracefully that would preserve your solid reputation, but abandoning your post ain't that way.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796166 <<< I think the time for grace has passed, and if it isn't clear enough already I won't be wasting anymore time participating in Republican affairs since obviously I have nothing else to contribute. I did, in fact, offer to help you add the gribble functions to your bot or share my version of the plugins (Which incidentally, don't require any of the stuff you ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: running trb offers a firm guarantee that you will have your coins perpetually. running the various usg-sponsored "i can't believe it's not bitcoin" margerine offers a firm guarantee that a) any time you spend with them will be wasted on a long enough timeline and b) any resources you spend with them will be worthless on a long enough timeline. so bear that in mind.
lobbes: no idea! wasn't for me
lobbes: ^ que pasa contigo, shinohai? There's a way to step back gracefully that would preserve your solid reputation, but abandoning your post ain't that way. ☟︎
lobbes: I certainly wasn't planning on it being a long-term solution, but I see what you mean. Plus, if I'm burning time anyways on this I may as well just learn some lisp and use the trinquebot. Have an actual republican item out of the effort rather than another pile of stapled dildos >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796013 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ain't nobody meeting her anywhere no mo.
ckang: which is also a blessing because the government probably hasn't researched how to break it either
mircea_popescu: le to claim, "we don't know how," since WireGuard makes it so easy. So, they hired me for a day to develop and open source a small solution for their unique use case and odd scenario." for lulz.
mircea_popescu: "It turns out that this strength might actually be a weakness for some. A small commercial VPN provider approached me recently about the fact they could see the allowed IPs mapping easily with WireGuard, whereas with OpenVPN it was hidden deep inside a process they didn't know how to debug. "Great," I thought. Not so fast. They were concerned that when compelled to retrieve this kind of information, they would no longer be ab
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean gossipd ? how can it possibly displace something that doesn't even exist!
ckang: sure thing yea, didn't think to check if they had a channel before
mircea_popescu: consequently, as a broad field, it doesn't hold much interest here.
mircea_popescu: ckang i don't read pdfs.
mircea_popescu: (which goes back to a long held asciilifeform notion, of "mining is a bug" -- certainly, but looky here : mining is also the direct result of "i want a shunt for the bruteforce, so i can say to people, "x is cheaper therefore y won't happen")
mircea_popescu: admitting the merkle-damgard construction (what ripemd is built out of, see http://homes.esat.kuleuven.be/~bosselae/ripemd160.html ) does not have a backdoor, and that sha256 doesn't have a backdoor, you are looking at something like 256 bits of entropy involved.
mircea_popescu: ckang it's one of the things people do for their own satisfaction, but your question isn't without marrow. let's see here...
mircea_popescu: ckang the idea isn't you bruteforce it, the idea is that in between world A, where 100 people living have 1 btc each, and world A', where 99 people living and 1 person dead have 1 bitcoin each, is that the apparent value of the bitcoin will be 101% in A` vs A.
mircea_popescu: but whether this properly means you have taken it or you haven't taken it is very much an open question of metaphysics, "what is the meaning of taking".
mircea_popescu: technically bitcoin you can't take to grave either, the passive result of dead keys is a slight increase in the value of circulating bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: because teh bitcoin ain't going anywhere, the "judge" can hold his breath until he's done dicking about.
mircea_popescu: "god doesn't beat with the stick".
mircea_popescu: ckang have him scan it ; qntra will want to publish it, if you don't break down and make a proper blog before that.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795912 <<->> http://trilema.com/2011/spargatorii-si-curva/ ; i should prolly translate that shouldn't i. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795909 << i know, i know. kinda expected. still... gotta say something to them, whether they follow or not the wise words of the elders is what distinguishes the talented from the mediocre in any generation, isn't it. ☝︎
douchebag: because right now if I put it on any of these machines, they wouldn't be running 24/7
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 20:50 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795655 << why aren;t you running the trinquebot ?
trinque: also wasn't there a report on trb dependencies coming?
spyked: and ftr, linux kernel could report whether the trigger was a read, write or exec op, but for some unknown reason doesn't.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795806 <-- yeah, it doesn't look like nullptr deref. segfault addr looks somewhat close to ip, so on a first glance it would look like they tried to hijack rip and tripped a non-executable page. but can't tell for sure without a pmap or something similar. ☝︎
phf: it's a counterparty problem, they don't have trinque in their wots
ben_vulpes: trinque: but the numbers don't show up on their computer har har har
BingoBoingo: Well, only one way to find out if the city doesn't have and that way is sightseeing
mircea_popescu: i wasn't presuming to actually name whatever magical instrument will be missing ; but merely medicine tactics.
mircea_popescu: ckang i don't get why they construct their communications in this nonsensical manner. i'm 20% in still haven't fished an inkling of sense.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795655 << why aren;t you running the trinquebot ? ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: ckang: don't ask to link just link lol
douchebag: don't know why I made that 1337speak
ben_vulpes: no wait hang on i don't have enough btc for that yet
mod6: They did suspend you for a brief time didn't they?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> holy shit look at that. wtf, twitter's going to the dogs, they've not banned BingoBoingo ?! << It's one of those bot accounts. I don't do anything with the account. It is all bot.
mircea_popescu: yeah, totally, "newly single pregnant female" is a thing. it doesn't collapse to "idiot", oh, no.
mircea_popescu: well, can't really be helped blindly, you'll have to look into its logs / status report and see wtf it's doing.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 19:33 mircea_popescu: anyway. in practice there's also nginx, which i doubt is any better ; and i don't foresee our writing of a web server right nao.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, nginx is not actually better ; or at least wasn't, as of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1505137 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: o lol i hadn't rated her.
mircea_popescu: you're seeing it, aren;t you ?
mircea_popescu: why don't people say THAT when BingoBoingo goes "who's yo daddy" ? one helluva intro.
mircea_popescu: everyone's easy to bond with if you don't think you're about anything else than bonding.
phf: sarah443: you haven't been in the valley have you
mircea_popescu: anyway, it all revolves on whether they can steal the money back or not. if they can't, they're on their knees begging. with some limited negotiation ability can get to keep a third or so and walk.
sarah443: I haven't, what is it? Googling now, on phone
mircea_popescu: yes, but your problem is that if you don't build either your skill or your platform, you will get absolutely nowhere.
sarah443: Same, don't have cable anymore, got to the point where I didn't even use it.
mircea_popescu: i don't really watch tv.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't help your cause that online media is just about dead.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you don't understand computers, how would you "be there" "before anything happens" ?
sarah443: Just for a journalistic point, I can't work for law enforcement
sarah443: But I don't want to just look over past things and try to figure things out, I want to be there before anything happens
mircea_popescu: ckang structure determines content and all that. once you try to go in the "i can't believe" bla bla format, you'll be producing the repsective content.
mircea_popescu: ckang the republic's always looking for folk that aren't out and out imbeciles.
sarah443: It does, but my problem is, I don't want to commit to something since I can't think of anything that I can see myself doing forever.
mircea_popescu: well... school kinda costs serious dough don't it ?
phf: no see you don't understand taxonomy, it is also green