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mircea_popescu: tons of people showed over the years before that same court "your honor i'm terribly sorry i stole and i am not going to do one damned thing about it".
jurov: i don't see any point for merging bitcoind to the kernel
mod6: I wouldn't have thought that we'd have to include a statically built linker...
mod6: Ah... ok, i think I'm coming to some understanding here. I guess I didn't get that you were saying to compile uclibc /statically/ under our own project just the same as we have say, openssl or boost or bdb?
mod6: To be clear, shared libs /should/ be using -fPIC. If I understand this correctly.
mircea_popescu: well, i'm out of my depth as you say, but it seems to me that importing the whole code into your own project and compiling it statically instead of creating shared libraries is the bedrock solution.
mod6: i.e. ( [ jne 0xdeadbeef ]
mircea_popescu: i had no idea.
ben_vulpes: hm. i was thinking about some java btc thinger.
mircea_popescu: nfi what "hyperledger" even is or was supposed to be, looks like pure accounting fraud but what do i know
mod6: while trying to figure out how to set "BUILD_SHARED_LIBS=false" or something, i ran into this; www.cmake.org/pipermail/cmake/2006-October/011418.html
mod6: anyway, will check back into that in a bit... maybe i did something weird. but i'm pretty sure it was the correct order.
mod6: asciilifeform: I just did the following: extracted v0.5.3.1-RELEASE applied the following patches successfully { dnsseed_snipsnip, kills-integer-retardation, nubs-gentoo-sanity, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar } but when I added the patch for IRC demo, got the following error:
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> i figure that with all the traffic that the contravex '$20 node' article is receiving of late that it's time to update it with a proper install of 0.5.4 << We're not there yet.
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: have you posted a foundation 'guide' since 0.0.5 that i'm not seeing on the mailing list ? << nope. that version should cover everything up through the v0.5.3.1 release.
pete_dushenski: i figure that with all the traffic that the contravex '$20 node' article is receiving of late that it's time to update it with a proper install of 0.5.4 ☟︎
pete_dushenski: i was working from 0.0.5 yesterday on debian 7 and all was going well until i had to edit/add 'auth.sh'
pete_dushenski: mod6: have you posted a foundation 'guide' since 0.0.5 that i'm not seeing on the mailing list ?
mod6: im sure i'll get it figured out.
mod6: i've tried like 3 different versions of gcc, with and without my special gcc patch shoehorned in, 2 different versions of uclibc. not quite sure what to think yet.
mircea_popescu: i'm not better, tbh.
mircea_popescu: my mind boggles that indeed source there present the compile should fail. i mean... copy / paste it in your own project for chryssakes, if ti comes to it, wtf is this.
mod6: i think that's referring to uclibc which is an .so perhaps
mircea_popescu: mod6 granted i'm rusty, but why are you making a shared object ?
mod6: i'll see if i can get to that here sometime today.
asciilifeform: i'd like to know which uclibc actually supports pthreads
mod6: well they work in the context that these files compile without /those/ specific problems (i.e. namespace problems with boost), but we still have the gcc/uclibc issue.
mod6: asciilifeform: lemme see what i can do.
asciilifeform: that's the version that i'm considering for public seed box, and it would be helpful to folks reviewing
asciilifeform: re: the umd wankatron: i will add a potentially interesting detail:
asciilifeform: (though i am not certain if it does so automagically or needs embedded annotations that we lack)
asciilifeform: mod6: i must confess that i never once actually used 'doxygen' for anything. but saw the page linked yesterday, and it (at least if viewed in graphical www browser) does some nifty things, like unraveling class inheritances
mod6: i generated some quick doxygen stuff... lemme put it up somewhere quick so you can look and see if it's ok.
mircea_popescu: looky, there's very little point in constantly rehashing this particular form of learned helplessness thing you got going. i don't work that way, i never worked that way, it doesn't in any sense work. it can be a quaint curiosity if you wish, a peculiarity of a peculiar gentleman if oyu must. it can never be more than that and it can never have any impact or meaning in the world.
decimation: I could imagine a virtuous bitcoin conference
decimation: but I would agree that they know from which master they get their pay
asciilifeform: with shame i admit that i not only took degree there, but was employed for a spell under the same roof ('umiacs') with these mega-heroes.
asciilifeform: i bet the ee labs are already providing gratis fab & debug service for those
decimation: in my opinion it can be solely accounted for by "I wanna print money too"
decimation: asciilifeform: I've noted an extremely pervasive "any cryptocoin but bitcoin" bias in academia, think tanks, and gov't
asciilifeform: 'Feb 16: 10:30am AVW 4172 !! Guest Lecture by Vitalik Buterin, founder of Ethereum.' << can't believe i missed this lulzfest that happened half hour's walk from my house.
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177055 wow. seems doxygen has improved much since i last used it ☝︎
BingoBoingo: At this point I'm conviced the only reason the fat hate movement is being suppressed is because USG has officially adopted Obesity as a social control mechanism.
HeySteve: high fructose corn syrup is the culprit, so I've heard
BingoBoingo: <HeySteve> cazalla, not sure that would cover the psychotherapy << I'd be more concerned with other medical followup. I looks like it still has active cullulitis infection on its skin after surgical intervention to remove areas of active necrosis.
cazalla: i still don't grasp how anyone gets that big, really hope it is genetics as they claim
HeySteve: don't think I could, without a blindfold and a crate of viagra
mircea_popescu: wrong one. i meant : http://40.media.tumblr.com/2ca11d7f8f10f6745ff7634a274589a6/tumblr_nqb6hjqvA91u3fd9jo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: why not camel, i wonder.
mircea_popescu: i think you just summed up reddit with that.
BingoBoingo: NewFlag https://i.imgur.com/2DWXfGR.jpg
mats: i would expect these organizations to have been in the game long enough to know to avoid inviting federal bureaucrats to join in the fun
cazalla: such fancy weapons but i'd rather dual machete with 50% crit bonus on offhand
mircea_popescu: scenario would be triggered by an audible break in or an attack on my housemates—and, for that apocalyptic event, I have my bow and arrows."
mircea_popescu: "As a man, my arsenal is heavier in my room. In my bed is a bowie knife, on the night stand a dagger, by the dresser a late medieval arming sword, at my desk a pair of butterfly swords, by my foot locker a Viking sword and a jobolo wood baton, and by the door to my room a hickory walking stick, a razor sharp daito [ninja sword] and a 14 inch meat hook. I want to emerge from my room with a weapon in each hand, as such a
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: no doxygen, but i did try to run it through a source tree mapper one time
mats: and in the general case i would prefer a balanced knife over a handgun
mats: i admit that 'hip firing' is a mistake for most people
mats: i would prefer a knife for close in work
asciilifeform: back to the little pistol - i often wonder what is the shortest barrel that's still good for 'last round you save for yourself'
mats: i have yet to perfect my hip firing technique
BingoBoingo: I honestly can't imagine a use for that thing
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I guess??? For self I'd want something with a little more diameter...
DanyAlos: BingoBoingo, Thank you. I will be back tomorrow. It is late here. Got to go.
punkman: I read the coinscope paper, not bad. even has some pseudocode at the end.
DanyAlos: I think I cannot
DanyAlos: I am registered with assbot but I am not sure if I can voice myself.
DanyAlos: Last time I was around talking about Blocksize limit. I really had fun.
asciilifeform: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~amiller << and before anyone asks, no, i don't know this fella
punkman: I'd definitely want better debug/test instrumentation before such experiments
punkman: I was just thinking about that
asciilifeform: i can barely believe there are still folks using nodes with the alert crap in them
asciilifeform: i think ben_vulpes had a summary
decimation: I guess that's like 2 L of 4% beer per month
cazalla: i think we're #1 for drugs
decimation: also I think the english are bigger drunkards generally
decimation: heh I haven't heard that one before
cazalla: hey decimation, i made you a moot meets an aussie shitposter meme video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nesSXFIVGG0
BingoBoingo: And I'm going to be disappoint again that it is just a storm and not a Raid
cazalla: anyway, full doco if anyone is interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un_XI4MM6QI (watching but i expect this to be similar to real estate seminar where norton will hit me up to buy some anti-virus shit at the end of the film)
BingoBoingo: Ah, I thought you were going to say they all made fortunes and move to St. Kitts
asciilifeform: i remember a course i had to do at uni, where we were shown various results re: the misconceptions about mechanics common among small children.
asciilifeform: some of these are even spiffier than the idiot numbers game because i don't have to pay for the ticket!11
asciilifeform: the do-i-get-hit-by-asteroid lottery, etc
asciilifeform: as opposed to several, including the do-i-cash-this-ticket-in-time one
asciilifeform: i was never able to understand why these folks thought they were only playing in one lottery
mircea_popescu: did i ever tell you the story about the blue collar guy who had caritas tickets ?
asciilifeform: no i meant the waiting-until-place-is-empty part
mod6: so i create gentoo via stage3 whole process in an instance, then have to create snapshot & make image from snapshot. deploy new instance from image.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2015#1176740 <<< how would a ban on that stop anything? ya just make your own at home http://i.imgur.com/SJGNdld.jpg ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/06/attack-on-dallas-pd-headquarters-another-drop-in-bucket-of-frustrated-americans/ << liek. but yes, i'm sure tomorrow's also.
asciilifeform: where can i see the unreported names.
trinque: sure, I just see 'em all as things which increase the load average of the state
asciilifeform: i can buy an argument re: joe stack et al., but these schmucks are products of usg entrapment program and are really best understood through 'psychiatric' lens, rather than criminalistic much less 'revolutionary'
trinque: I wouldn't expect that any rival political thing would form among the orcs going apeshit
assbot: Logged on 20-06-2015 22:46:02; asciilifeform: i will describe, for the benefit of n00bz, the typical career path of 'let's resist usg through action' in usgland: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2014#623044
shinohai: @ mircea_popescu if I find a Russian bride in the form of that pic you just posted, I would be a very happy person indeed.
chetty: ooo I want one
mircea_popescu: heh. the flags are either the imperial gold with whatever schmuck's escutcheon (i suppose fried chicken and watermelon for the current holder ?) or else the guelph red, or white, or blue, with the horse, the tower, the you name it.
trinque: mircea_popescu: yes, I see your point