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mircea_popescu: well, have you ever met a religious dude who didn't SAY, and broadly think, they're following god ?
Darwin_Fish: sorry, don't follow the logic. If there is no difference, what's the difference.
Darwin_Fish: i didn't know cryptography was a religion
mircea_popescu: spyked, i don't see how this distinction works. what does "eliminate word from vocabulary" even mean, you'll take out some classes/dependencies/whatever out of a pile of lines of code, leaving a them-shaped hole behind.
danielpbarron: i still like them. wasn't trying to do harm with the post. it was my intention to move on after that season, just didn't think it'd get cut short is all
a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 14:45 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1799724 << this is the equivalent of "designing" a caveroom. tell you what : if your approach is substractive, no systems engineering took place. the guy hacking a motorcycle out of two broken cars isn't an industrialist, he's a scavenger. these are fundamentally, and radically, different things.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1799742 << you don't have to try. with the company you keep, it does itself. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1799724 << this is the equivalent of "designing" a caveroom. tell you what : if your approach is substractive, no systems engineering took place. the guy hacking a motorcycle out of two broken cars isn't an industrialist, he's a scavenger. these are fundamentally, and radically, different things. ☝︎☟︎
ascii_lander: can't think of why else. couldn't be for the burned old tyre they serve as 'coffee'
mircea_popescu: they put pegasus turds in those cups didn';t you know.
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, there has yet not existed such a system where the top wasn't leisurely. the "leisure / no leisure" discussion contrasts "leisure for all" with "leisure for some"
ascii_lander: and wouldn't be caught dead changing beds in hotel
ascii_lander: mod6: it really doesn't hurt to 'piss on the electric fence yourself' and see what i meant.
mod6: Just sayin', wasn't waste of time for me to do it, just thought I'd report my findings.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 01:40 BingoBoingo: So, I don't want to spoil alf adventures in Uruguay, but... He loves the cheese here
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1799708 << it wasn;t bad. i hope he's treating you to the expensive stuff. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but then their successors, two groups of dweebs with sparse goatees, really REALLY don't believe they're just gunk on ancients' unremarkable cogs in a larger system.
mod6: Typically we don't get blizzards in april.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-15 18:49 mod6: jesus christ, 1 foot of snow in the last 24 hours, and it isn't even stopping.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-14 21:22 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799029 << anyway, i wouldn't simplify it quite to that point. obviously there's a pull and there's a push way to make money, and if i propose to some guy, "do x, get y" it's my push not his pull, and obviously if he wants to pull instead of waiting to b pushed aroundhe gotta do pull-y sorta things. but anyways.
BingoBoingo: So, I don't want to spoil alf adventures in Uruguay, but... He loves the cheese here ☟︎
douchebag: hanbot: I only asked because someone joined as mircea_popescu but I wasn't sure if it was really him due to his name getting switched to guest. I'll be less noisy when bringing women in here.
hanbot: i get that most irc channels and chat venues in general encourage this constant stream of self-evident, redundant, low-content chatter, but #trilema doesn't come close to most. there are people trying to communicate and get shit done here, and while you and your titprovisioning are quite welcome, the noise overhead is not.
mod6: jesus christ, 1 foot of snow in the last 24 hours, and it isn't even stopping. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i can't read that ;/
mircea_popescu: yeah don't stress, it'll be there.
mircea_popescu: hanbot / everyone : speaking of patches for mp-wp, here's something i'd dearly love : a MASS uploader. so you don't have to upload files one by one in the webinterface. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: Include vhosts.d/*.conf should not barf ; however you don't need a "path to", as it already runs from the directory above that, as part of the main config.
mircea_popescu: but i don't even know wtf is /vhosts.d/
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i haven't put major time into this particular burr, but it is on my conveyor and i don't expect it to be a major pita or be seen by anyone but me
mircea_popescu: phf, apache doesn't actually work any other way.
ben_vulpes: i haven't even figured out how to get apache to include a whole directory of vhosts yet
ben_vulpes: and i don't know enough about what could go wrong to let user b write into user a's directory through some nightmare within apache
BingoBoingo: If it wasn't for the Amazon box in the background could be Uruguaya
mircea_popescu: yes, but i only !!v'd it later and deedbot confirmed it, so i expect it's there. isn't it ?
mircea_popescu: douchebag, i don't think so.
mircea_popescu: douchebag, the fewer semaphores i end up implementing the better. how about you make sure they don't need it ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, amusingly, i offered a coin as per apparent tradition, but he didn't want to be paid for ministrywork or such.
mircea_popescu: don't fucking kite it when he shows up, i want to have an actual conversation with the fellow.
mircea_popescu: "oh but i didn't ~REALLY~ consent!1111". "wasn't me" etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-05 15:43 mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-181800-p-2.html (poor dooglus ended up paying a 4k btc to a bunch of lazy retartds pretending to be strippers, two years after.)
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799242 << Eh, just the ritzy part so far. Nowhere... well, Only a few places ben_vulpes hasn't been. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Isn't metal sharp everywhere?
mircea_popescu: "cleverness" doesn't pay.
keshaa: hah, couldn't work and give all my money to a man
chloeqtpi: no i can't
a111: Logged on 2018-04-14 10:13 spyked: but in short, "stretched hand that doesn't tell a story doesn't get dole"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799029 << anyway, i wouldn't simplify it quite to that point. obviously there's a pull and there's a push way to make money, and if i propose to some guy, "do x, get y" it's my push not his pull, and obviously if he wants to pull instead of waiting to b pushed aroundhe gotta do pull-y sorta things. but anyways. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: spyked, on reading further through it seems you weren't actually saying what i thought you were, so no actual disagreement here.
mircea_popescu: so there's fellows going about who don't know the cm length of their penis ; and certainly not to the A.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, you don't have a point. take measurement as a more general case. sure we can measure things, but a) we don't oblige everyone to measure everything all the time and b) we certainly don't insist on arbitrary precision.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-02#1791957 <- feel free to invoice me with deedbot so it doesn't wait on meeting in game (unless you prefer ECu, ofc) ☝︎
spyked: but in short, "stretched hand that doesn't tell a story doesn't get dole" ☟︎
spyked: and just to be clear re "economic value": the whole system of academic grants is based upon the lie that "there are enough resources to satisfy everyone". well, there aren't, tough luck. which reduces grant proposals to a very sophisticated way of begging, i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vVpsJnbq3A
mircea_popescu: hm. i can't help but read this passage as "on my way i got waylaid by these fellows who saw i had dough and well..." ; but then again i'm a cynical sort.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't even get that bad until it tries to pee on it.
ben_vulpes: hanbot has something in her .htaccess i haven't worked with her to unsnsarl yet
mircea_popescu: http://thewhet.net/2018/04/mp-wp-genesis/ << interestingly enough, this still doesn't. what's the danielpbarron hanbot difference i wonder.
ben_vulpes: who isn't isweatergod
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes moreover, tbf involvement with pizarro was an investment, not a grant. it got equity didn't it.
mircea_popescu: now whom didn't i pay here
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the reasoning wasn't tbtf, but rather community-benefit terrible-cost-structure
mod6: I'm fine with this if you are. Certainly wern't trying to force anything on you by any means.
ben_vulpes: trinque: rang, asked me to pass on that a) he doesn't need help insuring the hotwallet, and that b) he's thinking really hard about how much of linux and the rest of the stack to insure on his own back, and the moral hazard of doing so
mircea_popescu: mod6 you can't afford to pay for development. i appreciate the sentiment, and i'm not saying his work is negligible, but if you count all the IMMENSE amount of devwork the republic has produced, however you add it up you'll either a) be on the hook for more than the foundation has, significantly more, or else b) you'll be stuck taking lowball to the level of insulting people.
mircea_popescu: if he doesn't get popped, it needs no renewal, it's permanent. and if he does... well...
mircea_popescu: well, the idea is that indeed he's on the hook, for a particular type of cost. obviously writing code, reviewing code, testing things, design, graphic or systems, all sorts of things are useful and valuable, and they take people's time. if you spend an hour reading through patches you can't spend that hour petting your dog/kitten/kid whatever.
trinque: ah yeah, was wasn't it
mircea_popescu: but i don't judge you all that dizzy, either.
mircea_popescu: kinda the dilemma of "democratic society" aka "people have rights / are best judges of how to deploy their own resources" etc. you end up with the walmart world and either you chase the britney spears fanbase or else can't cover costs.
trinque: isn't always going to be the case that I'm next to the machine at the same time
mircea_popescu: that way a) you get automated txn bundling, reducing fees and b) you don't have to keep doing it.
mircea_popescu: kinda how my reasoning went, "he's pretty good at getting tx fees optimized, chances are users won't even notice they're paying, when comparing with $average-webservice."
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine half dozen tx/day sorta debit can in any meaningful sense "pay for itself".
trinque: sub BTC piggy isn't worth that much, but "lul popped republican wallet operator" is
trinque: douchebag: asking you to review trb's deps wasn't idly selected
trinque: still doesn't really pay for me cutting txn; obviously the ideal is I cut txn to refill a hot wallet, bot can use up to hot wallet balance without operator interaction.
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2016/cia-factbook-the-most-serene-republic/ << Maybe the people and society section needs updating? Maybe it doesn't? Glories of no formal surveys!
jossi: Oh, I am one that doesn't do the worth while stuff :o
jossi: But I don't want to judge the man
mircea_popescu: yeah, i can't imagine how i'd put up with the nonsense.
jossi: I wouldn't mind a more suburban area
mircea_popescu: didn't pan out ?
douchebag: im still getting her gpg setup, so obv don't pay her until after she gets that all registered
mircea_popescu: no, that's not what i mean. i mean i don't want to play genitorial roulette, i'd rather choose the new members of this family myself.
lauren22: I wonder how laptop sales have done since modern phones, many friends don't even own laptop anymore.
trinque: douchebag: and when you bring these chicks in here, tell them A) register, B) don't expect trinque hops off what he was doing to immediately cut txn for their precious cuntlet C) once they withdraw, balance is 0 again, because duh
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798463 << why don't you do some actual work, then ☝︎
trinque: nothing happens if they weren't registered
mircea_popescu: trinque i sent payments they didn't have keys yet, i don't want to resent lest it ends up doublespent.
trinque: so, the girls are bitching they don't have a balance, after having run withdrawal requests, or what?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4 i'm sorry, i got confused. " this scandal is why socrates didn't even fucking want plato's disgusting silver. and now think -- that for his great merits, socrates was in fact given by the city "2000 btc"" is what i meant.
mircea_popescu: well that we haven't figured out yet!
mircea_popescu: thatbitchlola im waiting for trinque to show up ; won't be very long.
mircea_popescu: you can't fucking BE righteous alone.
mircea_popescu: this scandal is why aristotle didn't even fucking want plato's disgusting silver.
thatbitchlola: wait so you figured out why it didn't send?
zx2c4: for example, i've spent my life studying greek philosophy and playing jazz music, and it doesn't pay anything. hence programming. but the economics of those activities doesn't really relate to their quality or importance
zx2c4: i don't think so. plenty of people with the necessary leisure study or create literature, philosophy, music, art -- great aspects of civilization for which there isn't always an immediate economic incentive
mircea_popescu: tis infinitely better to be a promising systems developer than to be a guy who wasn't cool enough for the chunk of bitcoin he got.