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mircea_popescu: in
that if you don't have one, you have
the wreckers'.
mircea_popescu: "room has no owner,
therefore evidently no possible utility." and so on.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 22:59 asciilifeform:
this is
the fate of all 'we don't have an ideology' derps
a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 18:46 mircea_popescu:
tbh an ~hour later my patience with
teh #lisp is waning fast. yes it's not cohesive a la catv-org or whatever other dorkitudes we examined prior, which means
there's no specific failure mode. but
this doesn't mean much, it vaguely flails like an ooze and well...
whaack: alright I'll look into it more later, for my purposes I
think ben_vulpes's code will be sufficient for now
ben_vulpes: not even
thinking,
these people. stackframes fabricated whole from reference
to "computationally secure", reader has room for 2 words, and so "pseudo" is never evaluated
ben_vulpes: gotta love how
they staple "cryptographically secure" onto "pseudo random" so unthinking derps forget about
the "pseudo" part
a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 18:37 whaack: asciilifeform:
that fixed
the problem, now hash_streams.adb:25:22: "Binary_Message_Digest" not declared in "SHA256"
mircea_popescu: tbh an ~hour later my patience with
teh #lisp is waning fast. yes it's not cohesive a la catv-org or whatever other dorkitudes we examined prior, which means
there's no specific failure mode. but
this doesn't mean much, it vaguely flails like an ooze and well...
☟︎ ben_vulpes: like if you need colorized parens whatever you're working on has definitely escaped your ability
to hold it in your head.
ben_vulpes: shouldn't be
that bad, no. i still don't understand
the why of it. after five minutes of working with lisp
the parens should disappear into background bookeeping on any usable brainsubstrate
mircea_popescu: just
the parens highlight
thing doesn't seem
that gnarly. am i naive ?
ben_vulpes: i don't want
to
try reimplementing emacs shittily for
the browser, server-side.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i don't get ~anything about how
the brains of
these people work, so far. asking questions didn't get me much further, moved on
to proposing prototypes, which... is going nowhere.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i don't get why people who want code highlit don't open
the code in a proper editor
☟︎ whaack: asciilifeform:
that fixed
the problem, now hash_streams.adb:25:22: "Binary_Message_Digest" not declared in "SHA256"
☟︎ ben_vulpes: keeps jumpin me damn browser
to
the pagebottom
mircea_popescu: and no further
than ONE DAY BACK in
this log which seemed very respectable snr-wise on
the basis of my hsaving read
today,
there's a PILE of "how
to lisp on windows" and "how
to utf-8 unicode etc".
a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 20:38 asciilifeform: diana_coman:
the example was written on a box with adacore's gnat;
the stock gnu one is stricter, doesn't permit Foo'Image -- instead you gotta FooTypeName'Image(Foo)
a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 17:55 whaack: asciilifeform: gnat1: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-fdump-scos’ when I
try gprbuild. gnat version 4.6 gcc version 4.8.4. I removed
the command line option from
the gpr file since it seemed
to be just used for coverage
tools.
Then got error prefix of "Image" attribute must be a
type in 3 places in blocks.adb
phf: by
the way,
their bot's code is public. i poached
their highlighter for example for btcbase file rendering
mircea_popescu: phf im giving
them
time
to figure out republicaqn supremacy on own power.
phf: that's actually a cute idea, have a bot do
the `read' on whatever's pasted, but obviously only works here, not on #lisp (since all kinds of attack vectors)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes hey, how hard would it be
to add a flag (=lisp)
to bpaste, make it highlight and shit as per #lisp folk spec ? ("<|3b|> mircea_popescu: links
to spec in particular, + interactive paren highlighting")
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so it appears
that whitequark item is actually a many-channel log.
whaack: asciilifeform: gnat1: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-fdump-scos’ when I
try gprbuild. gnat version 4.6 gcc version 4.8.4. I removed
the command line option from
the gpr file since it seemed
to be just used for coverage
tools.
Then got error prefix of "Image" attribute must be a
type in 3 places in blocks.adb
☟︎☟︎ phf: i know he
talks on #lisp, but i don't have anything about him, i.e. i'm pretty sure he's not doing anything visible
phf: no, but i'll give it a
try, i
think it's my
turn
to attempt
to invite a random stranger
to
trilema and see him run away in horror
mircea_popescu: phf dja have a conduit
to invite him here ? i
think smg wants
to hire him.
mircea_popescu: i like
the part where he explains why 2^32 scan being 1.6 seconds is not good news for scanning 2^32
phf: no, he's not part of
the kommunity which is also probably why he doesn't suck
phf: you never know with
these
things, but on face value it definitely is
phf: mircea_popescu: i like
that video series, it seems so innocent
a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 16:45 ben_vulpes: whaack: i hastily stripped
the cl i use behind mimisbrunnr for block parsing and
transaction extracting into
this
tar for you: cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/blockparser.tgz
mircea_popescu: * Loaded log from
Thu Jan 19 19:08:32 2017 << i guess once a year .
phf: ben_vulpes: sharplispers i believe is
the #lisp crowd who maintain "abandoned" packages (mostly for
the purposes of xach having somewhere
to git clone
things from for his quicklisp). i know xach, luis oliveira, and nikodemus siivola,
the last one being a proper hacker
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes buit it ended up not being needed,
the "community" "consensused"
that "openssl is okay" np.
ben_vulpes: created messages
that were undecipherable iirc
ben_vulpes: also ironclad rsa padding is notquiteright,
trinque i believe knows a bit more
phf: yeah, was fixed in master, but not in quicklisp production, my point is mostly "what other wonders are
there". like you said needs libressling
ben_vulpes: phf: do you know anything about
the 'sharplispers'?
phf: maybe, but only as "presented as found". froydnj said in a few places,
that he doesn't
think ironclad is
there yet as far as being used for production crypto. and we had a
thread (with ben_vulpes) where we discovered
that sha512 (!!!) had a bug
jhvh1: asciilifeform:
The operation succeeded.
phf: asciilifeform: no! you keep saying
that, ironclad is 0 ffi
phf: asciilifeform: i recall
their being
tight hashing code, but every
time i do
the same
thing and discover
that it was sb-md5 (and
there's a corresponding cmucl prior art), so no proper shasum
ben_vulpes: i figure you can stitch it into a fare-friendly (asdf) form, if you have
trouble or its missing bits let me know, 'tis a very hasty rip job
ben_vulpes: whaack: i hastily stripped
the cl i use behind mimisbrunnr for block parsing and
transaction extracting into
this
tar for you: cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/blockparser.tgz
☟︎ mircea_popescu: let's put in for
teh logs : woe on
the poor man, his oxen won't pull properly, his sandwich falls into shit and even when he fucks he runs into a rusty nail.
phf: "there's some gopher purists out
there but don't pay
them much heed.
There's no one in charge.
There's nothing keeping you from your next big idea.
There's nothing
to stop you from
trying. And besides, most of us
think it's pretty cool."
mircea_popescu: actually, here's what i meant : vai de omu' sarac, nici boii nu-i
trag, ii cade pita-n cicat si cind fute da de cui.
mircea_popescu: phf
the difference in
tone from
the exact same item pushing bitcoin forks is
that
the gopher forks people have no one
to fear in gopher.
phf: asciilifeform: "Having
to unfollow folks because I'm sick of cynical passive agressive subtoots." ""It will not hurt people who use gopher
the way it has been used for ~30 years. It won't break
things.
Those folks can ignore what we're doing.
This doesn't have
to be antagonistic. If you don't wanna
take part,
that's cool! I'm not here
to force you. Keep doing what you're doing, or do what we're doing. Either is wonderful" etc.
mircea_popescu: most parasitosis works
that way, actually.
there is such a
thing as a rich guy's
tuberculosis immunity. or, for
that matter, aids.
mircea_popescu: lice
too. which is why only "Some kinds of girls" get it in school.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 16:20 phf: re upstack,
there's been a resurgence of sorts of gopher protocol, various hipsters spinning up personal websites, etc. whether
the resurgence was shortlived or i'm just late
to
the game, but
there's already a community of wreckers (one of
them groups is coming from
this federated
twitter platform, mastodon) discussing all
the various ways
that
they want
to "improve" gopher,
tls, utf-8, markdown renderer, "minimal subset of html", etc. but at
the same
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm still sad about
that branson photo, every
time i remember it, just have
to shake my head
a111: Logged on 2017-10-02 19:09 mircea_popescu: sadly
the story behind
that is
that denni parkinson was
there with HER BOYFRIEND, who's some photog
there
to shoot some bs about branson's hobby (some kind of new and improved surfing)
whaack: asciilifeform: okay I plan
to use ironclad
to do
the actual hashing in
the cl implementation unless
there is a better recommendation
mircea_popescu: "mp is possibly not a millionaire seeing how he has girls combing
the streets of poor countries looking for salvageable parts in
the debris, as opposed
to shooting photographs with
the photographer's girlfriend like
TRUE millionaires do"