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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log entirely dead apparently
asciilifeform: 2**2048 damn
asciilifeform was laughing in other terminal and forgot here.
asciilifeform: lel
asciilifeform: (at which point it would factor ALL 2048b keyz!11111111111)
asciilifeform: 8ball would take about a billion years to get to sqrt(2048)
asciilifeform: as in, between keys
asciilifeform: i was speaking of LARGE FACTOR collisions
asciilifeform: 8ball is not relevant to this
asciilifeform: we found exactly ONE large-factor collision, and it was some troll
asciilifeform: this incidentally is why phuctor had been a depressing thing for me. the thing i set out to find, i never found (evidence of diddled rng on pgp users' boxes.) ☟︎
asciilifeform: (from, elementarily, machines with ~no~ rng)
asciilifeform: and we already know that they have large-factor collisions
asciilifeform: prolly more than 100x moar.
asciilifeform: there is!
asciilifeform: selfsig is how you know you have an rsa pubkey vs dogvomit.
asciilifeform: why not cache and store also.
asciilifeform: (why not and also kitchen, everyone fresh off the boat always asks)
asciilifeform: hey here in the lande of the phreeeee they combined toilet and washroom
asciilifeform: eh american education would do it also.
asciilifeform: yeah that'd work
asciilifeform: ah
asciilifeform: understand, getting the balance of an addr is O(N) ~unless~ you've been watching it as the blocks splat in.
asciilifeform: ???
asciilifeform: and N is getting pretty fat.
asciilifeform: the tx in wallet thing is monumentally annoying but afaik no one has invented a practical alternative to the O(N) 'how much coin do i have'
asciilifeform: if you're structuring the 'comment' field, before long you end up with rfc4880 et al if not careful.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu dun believe in self-sigs ?
asciilifeform: fundamentally this is good idea. but i can work either on this or on other things.
asciilifeform: phuctor is, among other things, specifically machine for illustrating the defects in gpg format
asciilifeform: sure
asciilifeform: did i ever say the pgp format shouldn't burn ?
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu even ~read~ the thing.
asciilifeform: as it was written.
asciilifeform: rfc4880 key is the fundamental object !
asciilifeform: no.
asciilifeform bangs head on desk
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: does it not make sense to you that having two classes of object, whereas previously there was no need to distinguish classes, is at least 2x complexity ?
asciilifeform: apparently?
asciilifeform: which is dumb.
asciilifeform: understand, if i were to switch phuctor to storing IN this format, NO key it spits out will ever be eatable by gpg. ☟︎
asciilifeform: where am i to get these ?
asciilifeform: it also has self-sigs.
asciilifeform: thing is, pgp key includes more info than simply 'modulus, email'
asciilifeform: 2way
asciilifeform: posted last week iirc.
asciilifeform: jurov wrote one.
asciilifeform: it will go ~slightly~ faster if i dump'em in, in bulk, but understand - i do not have the time presently to write any serious adjunct to phuctor
asciilifeform: Framedragger: fundamentally anybody should feel free to submit whatever to phuctor.
asciilifeform: does phf host it on a dial-up or what.
asciilifeform: log still dead, incidentally.
asciilifeform: they are stored as-found. so they can be shat back out and compared to extant key elsewhere etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phuctor is, originally, ~specifically~ about pgp keys, ~verbatim~, as found in the wild forest. any other thing will have to be a new gadget.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: yw
asciilifeform: hm?
asciilifeform: sterling had point tho - can't get 20 people in a room without a stool pigeon
asciilifeform: the ticks on the bears - even moar.
asciilifeform: bears in the woods, superior still !
asciilifeform: 'I know what militant leftist political correctness actually does in reality. It’s got nothing to do with SJW’s sobbing over transgender rights and everything to do with having your door kicked in with KGB jackboots at four in the morning.'
asciilifeform: Framedragger: i have his complete worx here.
asciilifeform: asimov, et al.
asciilifeform: e.g., sheckley.
asciilifeform: hey '50s american sf was readable
asciilifeform: but yes
asciilifeform doesn't buy him
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fella is a well-known dead tree sf author on this side of the ocean.
asciilifeform: '... bitcoin is for suckers ... mtgox'
asciilifeform: whole thing lulzy
asciilifeform: *the
asciilifeform: 'he blackhat scene is always riddled with informants. The only thing a Darknet guy likes better than darknetting is ratting somebody else out. All hackers aspire to an upgrade to spook. Hackers have no shut-your-mouth “omerta,” so whenever they get arrested they’ll brag to the authorities for 72 hours straight. They’ll even draw helpful little flowcharts for the cops.'
asciilifeform: for umpteenth time..
asciilifeform: from the dept. of loltronics: http://triggerwarning.us/critiquing-the-future-with-bruce-sterling
asciilifeform: lel
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: which is definitely not two pages of anything.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: realize that the routine posted earlier uses all of rfc4880.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: phuctor only eats rfc4880 keys. strictly.
asciilifeform: the whole rfc4880 parser has to be rewritten.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would be. but i never finished my cl rewrite of phuctor.
asciilifeform: also i left some of the pieces used by phuctor in, in case whoever wants to experiment.
asciilifeform: ~no error checking tho.
asciilifeform: go,try.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, Framedragger, et al : http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/c06000f7-e785-4388-8328-f43f90055283/?raw=true
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: about to post proggy, momentarily
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf log is dead
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf log is deed
asciilifeform: Framedragger: there is not, currently, but i can clean up and post a script later. for the time being you can easily get the hash by submitting key to phuctor.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-16#1483243 << wyyyyyy ☝︎
asciilifeform: i suppose
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes has wives, children, jobs, does ok
asciilifeform: most of the folks who aren't here - are still there.
asciilifeform: dunno about 'bunch'
asciilifeform: '... and then one day, he rode away, and where he dwelleth - none can say; for into darkness fell his star - in mordor, where the shadows lie.' (tm) (r) (jrrt)
asciilifeform: ^ for compleeetness.
asciilifeform: <gribble> mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 14 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <mike_c> I was like "are all the ratings hosed??"
asciilifeform: <asciilifeform> ;;seen mike_c
asciilifeform: (he's logged in, theoretically, here ~and~ there. but so was, until recently, artifexd)
asciilifeform: or at least not actively.
asciilifeform: #b-a ? logged in still, but he ain't there iirc
asciilifeform: where ?