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BingoBoingo: And the haircut was the same ~10 bucks as always. I suspect the problem is... the Cathars were purged by the Church for Church reasons when they should have been squashed by the crown for being tards.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, imho, the old guys getting a steak and their kids and grandkids getting thrown out into the street is minimal justice in south america. in fact, i'd much prefer they were handled by albigensian crusade 2, kicked ~out of town~ not merely in the street ; and literally nude.
mp_en_viaje: how they're gonna pay for it is anyone's guess ; though maybe i get there in time. IF THE LOGS ARENT TOO THICK!!!
mp_en_viaje: aand in other participatory democracy news, i just spent an hour or so in the jacuzzi / saunas etcetera. upon leaving, i confiscated the girls' bathing suits
mp_en_viaje: i guess maybe i misread what you were saying. anyways.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-12#1955128 << i suppose a very defensively limited item like that may well work, why not.
dorion_road: BingoBoingo, thanks, perhaps qualification isn't the best word. I did include "best practices" in there and meant qualification in the necessary precondition sense ; had in mind the mpex listing process.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-12 09:36:02 dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-12#1955110 << I'm thinking to keep it simple along the lines of : 1) register a key, 2) install a V, 3) maintain a blog where you : a) maintain a code shelf , b) publlish your work plans , c) publish articles for context on your vpatches, 4) maintain an irc connection to converse with people (point out '6 months' reading the log is recommended for
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-12#1955122 << cool, I'm excited to write those.
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-12#1955110 << I'm thinking to keep it simple along the lines of : 1) register a key, 2) install a V, 3) maintain a blog where you : a) maintain a code shelf , b) publlish your work plans , c) publish articles for context on your vpatches, 4) maintain an irc connection to converse with people (point out '6 months' reading the log is recommended for
mp_en_viaje: nobody even fucking knows how an os is made in the first place for the simple self-obvious reason nobody fucking made one yet. it's not farming. it's not anything like farming. i don't even know what the fuck it's like, maybe we live to figure it out, but so far we just have some good classes of what it can't be like is all.
mp_en_viaje: maybe the dude asks you a question. then you answer it. that's what you do. you don't go chasing about the street with pre-answers to questions nobody's asked yet ; if the guy asks whether he's qualified he probably isn't, which is not the end of the world, you're not qualified either. what the fuck qualification exam did i pass, per accidens & pro tempore's not a collegiate degree. this isn't homogenochina we're trying to reproduce here,
mp_en_viaje: does being an alien disqualify one from contributing ? "but mp, what are the odds an alien shows up" dude, how the fuck do i know ? how the fuck do you know ? why take the wrong sort of position on uncappable outcome ? are we protecting something here ? what is it ?
mp_en_viaje: apparently it's "your dedication's endearing" day in the republic. anyways, my man mode d : i get it, you're a serious and dedicated fellow, and you mean to do right by this sudden and immense pile fallen one day upon your head. good!
mp_en_viaje: e what to link here ; if only I were to somehow know months ago when I decided not to that months later in a discussion of women I'd have liked to have the reference. Yet I couldn't have known such a thing. Neither can you. Ever. And so instead of spending those twenty mintues there I spent five writing this note and fifteen fishing through the internets trying to identify which fucking bad film it was in the first place."
mp_en_viaje: "I never bothered to review Love Liza because it's a shitty movie ; nevertheless shitty as it was it'd have provided an anchor for today's reference. The reason I write down this note is precisely to underscore as thickly as humanly possible this most important point : that you are in no position to judge what's not worth doing. Because the future is uncertain. It would have been worth doing, all 20 minutes it'd have taken me, so as to hav
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2016/poor-women/#footnote_1_69667 << holy shit look what i found.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-11 13:08:26 mp_en_viaje: i dunno i support any particular action on the foregoing basis. but i also ain't gonna pass it in silence no mo.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-11 23:24:41 lobbes: In other plans, I'm aiming to take a more treacherous approach to coding the auto-bidding for auctionbot. I figure I can handle the majority sans-python, and instead simply leverage the postgres db it sits on (i.e. listen for insert into bid table, execute some postgres functions, spit results into outbox table, done). I'll mak
mp_en_viaje: this is a naive point of view, of the same nature as "all politicians are dubious so i don't vote" or "i've yet to meet a pure hearted maiden thus i have no truck with girls".
mp_en_viaje: i understand the ambiguity's innerving, and i understand the nude dedication behind "well, if it's bad, don't use it then".
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1955087 << let me be clear here : your dedication is endearing, but the problem isn't using python, per se. if i thought it were, i'd have said ; if an absolute ban on usage were warranted i wouldn't say things like http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1955003
lobbes: In other plans, I'm aiming to take a more treacherous approach to coding the auto-bidding for auctionbot. I figure I can handle the majority sans-python, and instead simply leverage the postgres db it sits on (i.e. listen for insert into bid table, execute some postgres functions, spit results into outbox table, done). I'll make an article of what I come
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 22:09:54 dorion_road: With tmsr os, how much work to support the implicit clients isn't clear yet. I'm also not 100% clear on spyked, bvt and lobbes situation apart from gathering they've been consistently productive while working salary mines.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1955061 << let me know how I can clarify on my part; I dun mind going into whatever details you need.
BingoBoingo: I'm guessing 'Portland Yazidis' will be a sorta budget substitute for the real thing?
mp_en_viaje: i guess im putting some bitcoin aside for when they start selling portland "yazidi" girls in a few years ?
dorion_road: In the short term, jfw and I are going to integrate it into our service, which, at this point, aims at guiding the right people in learning how to lower their risk in
dorion_road: I defintely have to think more about the long term monetization, but I see big potential.
dorion_road: With tmsr os, how much work to support the implicit clients isn't clear yet. I'm also not 100% clear on spyked, bvt and lobbes situation apart from gathering they've been consistently productive while working salary mines.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 04:14:42 trinque: I've been in that business. It's hard, wish them well.
dorion_road: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1954854 << if you're up for it, I'd also like to read about your experience there.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 04:14:22 mp_en_viaje: it's not much as it stands, but i do believe they've targetted exceptionally well, and might perhaps be able to execute also. maybe even surive to iterate. in any case i intend to help them, within reason.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 18:39:12 trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 03:56:53 trinque: but gentoo's a piece of shit. if it's not apparent why, I'll definitely have to say why.
dorion_road: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1954839 << I'd say it's worth spelling out once and for all in an article, I'd read and comment. Publishing it would probably be cathartic too.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 03:53:10 trinque: what is it you think I'm signaling to diana_coman's bunch?
dorion_road: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1954831 << perhaps I'm dull, but I'd appreciate it stated plainly in texan straight talk.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 03:44:44 mp_en_viaje: nor can i eschew signalling this point to dorion for the merry gang, specifically because he has little fucking idea about the underlying truths in the thick "engineering" sauce.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 18:29:38 trinque: mp_en_viaje: I put it to you that without money inflow... what republic? I'd thought we'd arrived in the same place on that one, at the time.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 22:27:34 trinque: I'm going to write something on why eating a product of socialists is stupid, and if we must eat shit, eating the least shit is the move.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 22:34:51 trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
dorion_road: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-12-10#1954817 << I'm looking forward to the article.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno, maybe the peroration i have in mind happened orally in the harem or who knows.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno, sometimes i think 2018 was spent doing a LOT of drugs, i can remember it like hippies can remember the 60s
mp_en_viaje: well... actually it might not be it, it might be only reference to the it, but i am intellectualy exhausted by now
diana_coman: well, supporting idiocy I'd say, yes.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno i support any particular action on the foregoing basis. but i also ain't gonna pass it in silence no mo.
mp_en_viaje: i am not proposing bash is good ; but i made a point of it in that context because i believe it is in this respect opposite. it has all the ills naggum finds it, yes, but it does not have that one thing that produces pete dushenskis out of otherwise promising young men.
mp_en_viaje: i don't think it's him ; i think it's the damned python.
mp_en_viaje: but i do mean ~very~ bad. fractally bad, it even gives them the impression they have been. without prejudice to lobbes, look at his experience, not necessarily just since sept.
dorion_road: ah, now I see.
diana_coman: fwiw I wanted to add precisely ^ .
mp_en_viaje: the problem with this argument of course is that it can be applied quite well to A LOT of the things we use ; most notably c++. but it's at the core, i suspect, if unexpressed, of why nobody ever pushed for say c#.
mp_en_viaje: hence the link relating it to wikipedia recently that now of course i can't find. basically what it does seems to me in any and all particulars based upon the forwarding of the "group action" agenda of the only evil in this world ; much like the republic's in all workings promoting itself python's in all its workings first supporting the enemy.
mp_en_viaje: i'd say the most interesting partition available upon "living things" is whether they are ready. there's the living things that are, and the living things that aren't. hence that whole discussion of http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/
dorion_road: yes, I have.
mp_en_viaje: dorion, i wouldn't. let's use the call-and-response format for this. so, what would you say is the problem the republic's formed to resolve ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 19:25:02 mp_en_viaje: anyways, i have serious reservations about anything-python. it's the first time for me, i never thought before a lang is basically the satan ; but it seems to me anything derived off python's going to be stupid, for that reason.
dorion_road: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-12-10#1954799 << hmm. I know python is discussed at length in various log threads, for the sake of clarity, would you mind summarizing the most important marks against it ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 19:08:15 mp_en_viaje: if trinque fails to work within the framework (which yes, DOES mean jan 15th is a firm deadline, not because you made it so or could, but because i can, and do), and nobody gives a shit about cuntoo, everything that was thereby lost is upon trinque to pay.
dorion_road: heh. I got that, noting the general principle.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 19:07:06 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-10#1954750 << to be perfectly clear, i'm not at all inclined to lend support to this sort of misbehaviour. young man has no excuse to act like a cunt, "oh, hurr durr, LET OTHER PEOPLE". by and large, if he's not here to work his shit, nobody cares about his shit.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1954926 << I imagine a bit of both are at play.
diana_coman: it is really because that's the start but then it gets discussed and the different values talked about and so on; so yes, I for one would very much prefer to have an article as ref.
mp_en_viaje: i suppose i should prolly write a proper article about this, seems it's unhelpfully all over the logs ?
diana_coman: now I see it; I read depedent on ~my~ wot and I didn't get it was just moving the centre but keeping the l2 as well, hm.
mp_en_viaje: so i rate 9 = l1 ; l1 rates 2 or above = l2.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i thought the model was that those rated by my as 9 are on the list of ratings deedbot looks at to establish l2
diana_coman: alternatively I suppose the !!up could be perhaps permanent ie until a !!down
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: the only potential trouble I see with your proposed model is when the new voice model is implemented since my pageboys will not be able to hang around here at all anymore.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I don't mind it or anything; tbh only the other day I had a look at the list of names and picked RubenSomsen to pm & he got at least in #ossasepia, presumably still reading now through the mountain of links he ended up hit with.
mp_en_viaje: this'll prolly need management in the sense that i suspect the banlist is limited, so after a few of these it'd be stuck expiring the oldest ban to enact a new one, meaning it'll need a round buffer of them.
mp_en_viaje: so what i'm thinking is, what if deedbot set a ban on any nick it sees unvoiced for >1hr, setting the forward channel alternatively #ossasepia and #trilema-hanbot on it ?
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in linear improvements : i'm thinking of setting up #trilema to forward the useless / idle / etcetera to the feeder chans. apparently freenode has support for this, in that in setting a ban one can also specify a channel wherein the banned to be dumped.
jfw: But possible that's because I've been in crazed orclands longer
jfw: No derangement that I was able to detect.
jfw: mp_en_viaje: thanks for those blog comments btw, looking forward to a proper read + catching up on the juicy looking log here in the coming days. I see dorion_road's and my venture was discussed just above; I'll give him the first word as I believe he's more up to date here.
trinque: see, I'm the fucking misogynist over here!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 19:24:08 trinque: nicolewhatever: and by the way, repeating your master's opinion for him says very little. I heard him; he doesn't need you going "ayyyyyy", but good girl all the same.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-10#1954818 << this "he doesn't need you" thing is such nonsense. i also don't need any other of the things, what the hell, since when it's a needs-based economy.
mp_en_viaje: anyways, it seems all very neoprotestant ("compile your own bible out of letters found around the house!!) which my rather catholic description doesn't do justice to. but it's just summary, i don't mean to rule by misrepresentation.
mp_en_viaje: i guess they explain this when they wake up.
trinque: I bet all that's shockingly primitive
mp_en_viaje: my understanding is that they're basically fixing that : giving the guy the laptop's evidently not enough (i gave mine one when i left ro), it needs to be supported culturally / with habits, mental and otherwise
trinque: shitty lawyer. I even got my accountant to use
trinque: this I would actually like to know.
mp_en_viaje: it means "i laughed with the ass also"
mp_en_viaje: i guess the converse statement's that im some kind of half-baked optimist. but anyways.
mp_en_viaje: the nile also flooded every year, in a regular process that seemed to most everyone, certainly everyone in the ancient world, fundamental. yet it wasn't fundamental ; i twasn't even self-perpetuating. as it turns out, the nile's stopped flooding altogether, it's been decades.
mp_en_viaje: but i don't think that situation is self-perpetuating.
mp_en_viaje: not a point of my success ; the point is -- yes i'm aware texas oil money is rather... ok, your term, dipshits.
trinque: last thing I begrudge is your success, and I'm well aware that at 32 so far I've knocked down middle class walmart retirement.
mp_en_viaje: yes, but meanwhile i had an exceptional aged steak yest, and then retired for a glass of port, coffee, sweets and a cigarette. you understsnd this, if i ask for an ashtrey at this poshest place in town, THEY FUCKING BRING ME ONE.
trinque: I've been in that business. It's hard, wish them well.
mp_en_viaje: it's not much as it stands, but i do believe they've targetted exceptionally well, and might perhaps be able to execute also. maybe even surive to iterate. in any case i intend to help them, within reason.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 18:39:12 trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
mp_en_viaje: yes, but nobody knows what the fuck you're either thinking or doing, because you don't express yourself neither consistently nor well. so we're stuck guessing. i'm trying to do as good a job of it as possible, but god fucking help me it's my least favourite activity.
trinque: the only context in which I brought it up was getting pissed at alf that I couldn't have a chip, and w/e.
trinque: we don't disagree on that point either; I don't give a shit how many funnybux I have.