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mp_en_viaje: but yes, putting the above 20 log lines (in context-adequate form) under the eyes of
a few hundred thousand pantsuits in fifty or
a hundred pantsuit congomerations is not
a half-bad plan.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 18:39:12 trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have
a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
mp_en_viaje: yes, but nobody knows what the fuck you're either thinking or doing, because you don't express yourself neither consistently nor well. so we're stuck guessing. i'm trying to do as good
a job of it as possible, but god fucking help me it's my least favourite activity.
trinque: the only context in which I brought it up was getting pissed at alf that I couldn't have
a chip, and w/e.
trinque: we don't disagree on that point either; I don't give
a shit how many funnybux I have.
mp_en_viaje: paintsuit world is as fine
a hobby as any other hobby, and what the fuck's wrong with having hobbies now. but if you stop distinguishing between vocation and avocation, if the hobby takes over activity as
a sort of parasite, it's not ME "declaring" you an otaku. i'm like the coroner in that sad context, nobody died because the coroner pronounced them dead. at the time the coroner showed up, the deed was long done.
mp_en_viaje: nobody cares, it's not like i'm particularly threatened by the notion god help me ; but if you quit your day job to spend
a decade or whatever's left of your active live becoming the 285`666th most popular singer-songwriter in the 63rd most popular genre AND you also expect someone will drop what they're doing to clap for you... you're insane, in so many words.
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-10#1954809 << look, it's very fucking simple : there are 62 cities in the world larger than houston ; of the 4.5mn living there about 300k own more than
a million dubaloos' worth. if you go from nothing to 1mn dubaloos, you go from nothing to being in the top 300k pantsuits in pantsuit conglomeration #62.
trinque: but gentoo's
a piece of shit. if it's not apparent why, I'll definitely have to say why.
mp_en_viaje: that doesn't mean now i'll permit
a whole "lost tech" fantasy fiction to erupt on fucking gentoo, as fucking if the symbolics idiocy wasn't
ENOUGH of
a waste of time / ready rug to sweep it under..
trinque: and
a found item with TMSR chizeled in it is not thereby owned
trinque: an OS build forever out of "community organizing" and volunteerism is going to be
a piece of shit.
trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have
a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
trinque: I'm going to write something on why eating
a product of socialists is stupid, and if we must eat shit, eating the least shit is the move.
diana_coman: there are 1001 pythons in fact and at some point it used to be
a half-decent quick-prototype/plaything tool; I'd say it got then pushed forwards & "adopted" and all that, because "easy".
mp_en_viaje: it attracts
a certain sort of mental deffective.
mp_en_viaje: anyways, i have serious reservations about anything-python. it's the first time for me, i never thought before
a lang is basically the satan ; but it seems to me anything derived off python's going to be stupid, for that reason.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 21:14:00 mircea_popescu: i dun think you're
a lazy man. currently i think you grew up in
a house with
a lot of door slamming as
a rhetorical device, but that's really neither here nor there.
mp_en_viaje: if trinque fails to work within the framework (which yes, DOES mean jan 15th is
a firm deadline, not because you made it so or could, but because i can, and do), and nobody gives
a shit about cuntoo, everything that was thereby lost is upon trinque to pay.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 11:31:17 dorion_road: trinque, you've
foreshadowed using
a minimalist busybox system, which Gales is. Giving it
a test run and writing and article about what the positives and negatives are compared to cuntoo would go
a long way to help killing idiocy. If you made time to do it by jan 15, adding your insight while others are working on it would help us
mp_en_viaje: who knows, maybe critical experience is the needed mystery ingredient to finally permit him defeat whatever demons made him miss out on having
a blog, for instance.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:27:38 trinque: let it be plain that I hate most of you. and you should hate me back. I don't want to hear another dipshit that can't find his way into
a 50k/yr business call himself lord.
dorion_road: gentoo package management has gone through
a lot change over the years. I've used gentoo regularly since 2016, but am looking forward to lobbes article on ebuilds because I still haven't grasped that complexity.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 12:10:35 BingoBoingo: These costs can take
a number of forms, but the big one seems to be... Gentoo comes with
a lot of script baggage that makes it Gentoo instead of something else. To make
a TMSR operating system that does V instead of the Gentoo thing... starting from Gentoo means
a lot of cuts are going to have to be made.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: there is certainly something there in that CrystalSpace tries to be essentially
a sort of OS all by itself.
BingoBoingo: These costs can take
a number of forms, but the big one seems to be... Gentoo comes with
a lot of script baggage that makes it Gentoo instead of something else. To make
a TMSR operating system that does V instead of the Gentoo thing... starting from Gentoo means
a lot of cuts are going to have to be made.
BingoBoingo: dorion_road: It seems to me like the growing dissatisfaction with Gentoo as
a thing to capture for terraforming is that Gentoo comes with
a lot of Gentoo specific complexity. This complexity can be handy if you want to build
a linux and that linux happens to fit in the space the Gentoo maintainers are running towards, but... that complexity appears to be an impediment to producing
a standardized thing that just works without inflicting
dorion_road: trinque, you've
foreshadowed using
a minimalist busybox system, which Gales is. Giving it
a test run and writing and article about what the positives and negatives are compared to cuntoo would go
a long way to help killing idiocy. If you made time to do it by jan 15, adding your insight while others are working on it would help us
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-29 13:11:15 diana_coman: tbh by now I really want to give
a spin to jfw's gales thing too and actually see what's there.
BingoBoingo: 2018 was indeed
a year heavy on the thrashing about and wall sticking projectiles
ossabot: Logged on 2018-12-12 14:20:34 asciilifeform: would switch, in
a heartbeat, to fulltiming at hypothetical tmsr consultancy, if it could be made to get off ground
mp_en_viaje: in other end of year book keepings, holy shit i can't believe i'm gonna have to take
a negrate in lieu of
that coin.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: lol, I knew adlai got sidelined, but it's been
a while since I read into the how/why
mp_en_viaje: o btw BingoBoingo cunt-intel-pros santa also has
a tidbit for you. did you know that in your native chicago
a "larouche movement" chick made democratic ticket secretary of state (along with some others), and then adlai wouldn't run on the ticket with the nuts so he invented "solidarity party" which of course cost him the election -- but here's the morcel : until ~the day after the election~ the idiot press reported the defeated democratic
mp_en_viaje: and then, to add insult to injury, all sort of nobodies on
a stick (trump and obama have this exact
whisk in common, that as much as trump was an outsider laughingstock for the business community, obama was an outsider laughingstock for the counterculti/commies -- they're literally the same object in
a structuralist perspective) ended up arbitrarily named in
a purely nominative ex
diana_coman: I had more fun with the "how to make
a movement" , "going under cover" and all the "we are very serious(ly playing) here"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-09 17:42:34 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in other 60s lulz (since jfw 's memoirs prompted my sending intel on
a digging expedition through the shockingly irrelevant microfractures of the us communist party mega-soviet outreach failure) :
https://www.markrudd.com/ mp_en_viaje: lol. so come back with
a girlfriend over fifty, what can it hurt.
dorion_road: I can't say I'm very enthused, but looking to see the upside and get through it as productive as I can be. Getting back to Panama will be
a relief for sure.
dorion_road: mp_en_viaje myeah, it's
a family reunion. I agreed to go back in august.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in other 60s lulz (since jfw 's memoirs prompted my sending intel on
a digging expedition through the shockingly irrelevant microfractures of the us communist party mega-soviet outreach failure) :
https://www.markrudd.com/ dorion_road: I'll be traveling dec 25-jan 6 with potentially good internet, but unknown at present; I'm going on
a cruise. january 6th I'll be back in Panama.
bvt: dorion_road: comment published and answered; i can do
a test run of gales after returning (20 dec)
mp_en_viaje: dorion_road, seems to me you're mixing things. yes, you can run
a mercedes you bought on mud roads in your native tardikistan. no, it can't be
a mercedes if it comes without
a manual, or without standard parts, or if it violates any other fundamental assumptions implicit in the name.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-07 10:36:59 BingoBoingo: spyked: My suspicion is that the cost of acquiring
a TMSRbootable board is almost aways going to beat supporting new hardware, unless the new hardware is *very* interesting.
dorion_road:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-07#1954458 << I'd tend to agree with the suspicion. First I think it'd be helpful to know the cost of acquiring TMSR bootbable hardware. Defining was TMSR bootbale hardware means and listing the 'known good' board that are already supported by coreboot or similar would be
a good start.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-07 05:08:56 spyked: anyway, I'ma sit on this thread for
a while, will focus on getting uefi disentangled for now
mp_en_viaje: nevertheless, i suspect
a superior systematic set of answers to the main questions is on its way from there.
mp_en_viaje: does actually expose pretty much the entire buboe. except it's not
a pretty sight, for one thing, and moreover "civilised" life as narrated by the pantsuit's simply not compatible with the observation.
mp_en_viaje has been re-reading this discussion in lieu of sleeping. there's
a lot in there, and i fear not so greatly expressed.
diana_coman: ahaha; but yes, what's with all those hierogliphs anyway, slash and
a bended sword!!
mp_en_viaje: in reality, no such wonder existed. but in 1950, de gaulle was looking for legitimacy, and so
a counterfit past was invented for him.
mp_en_viaje: now, much like "engineering" is the supposed "thing sir bouch betrayed", that
a) only exists retrospectively and b) only can be constructed by young men
mp_en_viaje: it helps if one doesn't attempt to simultaneously live and exist within
a "society", ie
a list of bad "no" answers to fundamental questions.
mp_en_viaje:
a lot more becomes obvious once one turns off the elohim caliban wordmakin' rattle
mp_en_viaje: much like ceausescu, you know ? there he finds himself, among young men for once. for once in
a logn while. and he still, he doesn't quite see how it'll go. he's surrprised by the chain of events. i dunno, seems fucking obvious.
mp_en_viaje: man's impact on the world surroundant's
a lot less manifest than that.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman,
a yes, that. but by the time someone would venture money in 71, they had been extremely successful for 20 years.
mp_en_viaje: which it was. but neither bouch, nor anyone else "accused" or "under suspicion" during the proceedings -- all of them his friends, incidentally, the gilkes making dubious passive-agressive comments in the vein of "knowing how treacherous
a thing cast iron is, but if an engineer gave me such
a thing to make I should make it without question, believing that he had apportioned the strength properly" had been his partner for thirty years at t
mp_en_viaje:
a decaded and change later, after the queen (victoria!) was driven over water on the result of that madness, she liked it enough to declare it fundamentally constituent and relevant part of her kingdom (different from the realm she ruled, much like one's wife is different from the woman living in his house, as
a product of directed imagination,
a projection of reason). he was knighted as
a side-effect of this.
mp_en_viaje: he didn't remain in liverpool, but he returned home, and with
a merry gang of equally enthusiastic entrepreneurs an' worldchangers he set out to... change the world.
mp_en_viaje: this fellow was
a bright sixteen year old, who took an apprenticeship in the hot thing of the time, the one happening place for bright young minds : metalworking.
mp_en_viaje: fwis all these apparent successes have hidden economic counters underneath that are often not understood until
a long time passes.
mp_en_viaje: the loads guided with separate pin/groove arrangements, rather than the familiar wheel retainers, and the thing built out of wood. but, historically,
a TRAIN refers to
a horse-drawn wagon arrangement.
mp_en_viaje: then the concept took
a hiatus for
a good baker's dozen centuries.
mp_en_viaje: but yes, code literacy is as novel
a concept now as it was in knuth's time, as it was in 600 ad.
diana_coman: basically code literacy has still quite
a way to go or something.
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-08#1954513 << this is not
a problem peculiar to that particular corner, either. people who write, write. people who don't write, don't write. the two aren't really the same thing, you can give some rope so type-1 individuals finding themselves in
a type-2 tradition renounce and extricate themselves. but that's about as far as it goes.
diana_coman: opened up
a vpatch from
a dir eg nano -wF patches/some.vpatch and then from inside attempted to open another vpatch that was however in dir "
a" - apparently it crashes; I did not yet spend more time to find out exactly why/where/how.
mp_en_viaje: seems that he also said something along these lines, making the man-maintained space-tab distinction
a bit of
a monkeyism itself.
mp_en_viaje: the other node of the argument, to be perfectly fair, is that
a lang editor that ~doesn't~ auto-tabulate is thereby broken ; and perhaps the case stands that
a language wherein this can't be done -- is also broken.
mp_en_viaje: lotta windows users are like that, most of their keyboard usage is repetitive pressings on the same key. which is i suppose how people even came up with the "hey, make the screen
a single button and be done with it" next node of "improvement"
diana_coman: the \t thing is at times annoying because the key is also mapped to other stuff but that is arguably
a matter of "set the workbench so it's not"
mp_en_viaje: it isn't
a huge problem, which is why it wasn't particularly resolved, then. or i guess now. or ever be