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mircea_popescu: if (a(x) > b(y) ) z is not "more compact" or any "cleverer" than ax = a(x) ; by = b(y) ; if (ax > by ) z. it's not "more conservative", it's not anything but fucking stupid.
jfw: I like the convention in Scheme where such functions are named ending in !, following the builtin assignment operator "set!"
jfw: mircea_popescu: I get the sense this is more about the user than the tool then. I'd reckon it's equally dumb to call a function with global side-effects from an "if" test, since it's supposed to be just asking a question, not "doing things"
mircea_popescu: the sort of morons who think god will download sexual ability into their heads immediately after marriage tend to naturally think otherwise, of course. but god hates them.
mircea_popescu: it's just fundamentally incorrect to asign values within if evaluations.
jfw: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-05#1956632 - "if ($a = 1) ..." worked for me, though in the stupid C sense that the operator has elsewhere, yes. Tried Python and apparently it syntactically forbids single-= in an "if" statement, probably because it has this strict statement vs. expression distinction
jfw: lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-03#1956535 - doesn't work for me either: hightlights but doesn't jump to the right place. Looks like there's a stray <span id="select"> in the article source
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-28 23:27:44 mircea_popescu: jfw, speaking of http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2020/whats-on-my-mind/#comment-177 i expect one of the better examples could be perhaps http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-01-08#1767152 ; i dunno if it's universally as obvious from context as it is to me that indeed i'd have paid the tranny had nobody complained. perhaps even after, had it been litigating less retardedly.
jfw: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957677 - I'll have more chewing to do on the political philosophy angle but otherwise I think I get this point.
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2020/02/the-basilikon-doron-or-royal-gift-a-constitutional/ << The Whet -- The Basilikon Doron, or "Royal Gift", a Constitutional
hanbot_abroad: mircea_popescu i'd say it's better than what i ended up using, from the woman's fault, "The term of art for this would be stramula. It comes from a seminal Romanian-language piece on the topic (in which language mula is yet another derogatory term for a stupid woman, not that there's any shortage of these ; whereas stra- is a prefix indicating primacy on the decendency line, sort of like grand in grandfather)."
mircea_popescu: i suppose one thing i could do is take the pre-footnotes starnote, "Mula este femeia medie cu preocupari medii, cu credinte medii, decenta mediu si-n general urmaritoarea de turma. Aia care se imbraca cum se imbraca fetele, crede ce cred fetele, spera sa se marite ca asa vrea mami si crede pe de-o parte ca va fi fericita-n virtutea inertiei si pe de cealalta ca oricine ar trebui sa procedeze exact la fel, pentru ca asa-i B
mircea_popescu: one of those "perfectly stated in its original setting and darn impossible to translate" items. what can you do.
mircea_popescu: hanbot_abroad, the problem is that its source is very much a romanian article.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-31 13:22:55 mircea_popescu: jfw, http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-journey-through-the-gales-installation-process#comment-238 << once spyked approves it there's a chunk in there for you.
jfw: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-31#1957752 - replied, in spyked's spam queue. In the mean time, http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2019/gales-linux-initial-release/#comment-182
hanbot_abroad proposes mula for inclusion in republican thesaurus, having no useful source to link to while writing current article and deeming it frequent&occult enough to warrant defining with the other terms.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-31 13:22:55 mircea_popescu: jfw, http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-journey-through-the-gales-installation-process#comment-238 << once spyked approves it there's a chunk in there for you.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-31#1957752 <-- approved. I'll be away for the weekend, but will answer as soon as I get back to the desk
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-31 12:50:54 mircea_popescu: spyked, thetarpit not having footnote tooltips kinda blows!
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-31#1957750 <-- that's been on the to-fix list since I installed mp-wp, I should make it a proper to-do item already
hanbot_abroad: ahahaha mircea_popescu i love that thing. and it's still in vivre sa vie, you just found its hometown ;)
mircea_popescu: hanbot_abroad, http://trilema.com/2014/the-serious-ipo-a-moment-in-the-life-and-times-of-forum-investing/ << actually that's where it was!
mircea_popescu: there's also that.
BingoBoingo: Well, China's know what to do with the pichis and rustics, whether they call themselves Tibetians or Wuighurs.
mircea_popescu: since washington can no longer afford the expensive gold-digging coastal gf...
mircea_popescu: jfw, http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-journey-through-the-gales-installation-process#comment-238 << once spyked approves it there's a chunk in there for you.
mircea_popescu: spyked, thetarpit not having footnote tooltips kinda blows!
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-journey-through-the-gales-installation-process << The Tar Pit -- A journey through the Gales installation process
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-29 17:38:25 mircea_popescu: though honestly, i don't think there's any need (or for that matter any space) for "using the relationship" or anything like that.
dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-29#1957729 - that's good catch, thanks for the correction and expanding on it.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2020/01/must-fix-problems-plaguing-f-35-moneypit-continues-to-be-blocking/ << Qntra -- "Must Fix" Problems Plaguing F-35 Moneypit Continues To Be Blocking
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2020/01/west-virgina-proposes-vexit-to-virginians-angry-over-rule-by-dc-commuters/ << Qntra -- West Virgina Proposes Vexit To Virginians Angry Over Rule By DC Commuters
deedbot: BingoBoingo rated Ishack 4 << BTC/fiat trades since arriving in Uruguay
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2020/intinarea/ << Trilema -- Intinarea
mircea_popescu: the great advantage of the totalitarian worldview is, after all, that it's a totalitarian worldview.
mircea_popescu: if it wasn't really worth doing, it just seemed like it was at first -- all the better! now they know, and they can thereby move on to doing something actually worth doing.
mircea_popescu: if it was worth doing all the better, you're helping someone do something that was worth doing, which helps everyone here in the most direct of ways.
mircea_popescu: from which point things flow naturally : either what they were doing was worth doing to begin with or not. helping them simply means they'll get to find out faster, nothing else.
mircea_popescu: given that they can benefit, they might or might not feel inclined to talk. that's your job, reducing the latter to the former. in principle most everyone's willing to venture some small ante, see how it goes, and go from there ; corner cases aren't particularly interesting.
mircea_popescu: if they are doing something, they necessarily can benefit -- if they can't, you're doing things wrong, and are cordially invited to change how you do them.
mircea_popescu: in the simplest of terms : whoever you might be meeting, either is doing something or isn't doing anything. if they're not doing anything you absolutely have no use for them, as the idiomatic expression -- there's no possible basis for any relationship, no cause to meet again, get lost dumbo.
mircea_popescu: though honestly, i don't think there's any need (or for that matter any space) for "using the relationship" or anything like that.
dorion: mircea_popescu thanks. your comments have opened us up though and now I reckon we're more likely to establish the initial working relationship.
mircea_popescu: none of these are problems.
mircea_popescu: dorion nothing wrong with approaching individuals, on the contrary, prolly right thing. nothing wrong with having a clear center, concrete, highest advantage, etc.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:51:58 mircea_popescu: so you know, as far as the life prospects, the future evolution, however you will name the sum-total potential of a person's existence, understanding how to command line is more important than meeting their father. it'll certaily do a lot for them, and it certainly CAN do way the fuck more for them.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:49:03 mircea_popescu: the fundamental problems are that cli-iliteracy is a serious, life-changing disability. in terms of severity, blindness compares, deafness does not. obviously the afflicted are scarcely aware, but this doesn't mean they're not afflicted.
dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957245 - fo sho. after being blind myself for years, I think I'd quit computers in the imaginary hell in which the cli was taken away from me.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:47:43 mircea_popescu: obviously to a large degree you'll have to support your people, so you'll be working with their things to begin transitioning to sane things as a matter of necessity.
dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957244 - that's the biggest takeaway I have at this point from this. use what they're doing to develop the relationship and earn their trust and use the relationship to then convert them.
dorion: plus, banks and brokers have their balls in a regulatory vice which takes away a lot of the principal's agency. So our thinking was to approach the principals as individuals and consult them personally, not "their" company.
dorion: e.g. law firms and banks here pretty muuch all have terrible practices and they know it - to a degree, but we were thinking helping them harden their windows systems was carrying too much opportunity cost and there's already competition there.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:42:14 mircea_popescu: what will you say ? "sorry, we gales only" ? as opposed to "yes dood, here, ten lines of awk. we'll go through what it does next we meet" ? hm ?
dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957240 - in aiming to have something concrete where we had the highest competitive advantage and long term, sustainable leverage for both ourselve and clients, we had been limit
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:38:50 mircea_popescu: so my proposal is rather to look at the matter not as much as you're in the business of TEACHING LINUX (while getting together), but in the business of GETTING TOGETHER (while for instance teaching linux, or gales, or bitcoin, or whatever is needed)
dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957236 - ok, point taken and that for sure helps clarify. perhaps I didn't correctly infer what you meant by not wanting face to face to be feasible though.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:21:32 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957172 << too long for what lol, i'm still around. now, what are you asking me ?
dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957220 - I know you're around, but fugit irreparabile tempus, etc.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2020/01/harvard-chemistry-chair-arrested-over-false-statements-to-usg-agencies/ << Qntra -- Harvard Chemistry Chair Arrested Over "False Statements To USG Agencies"
ossabot: Logged on 2018-06-27 17:39:09 mircea_popescu: the problem though remains, and it goes right into ye olde orthogonality and language discussion ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-18#1772426 ) : for sigs to mean anything useful they must not mean anything systematical.
ossabot: Logged on 2017-08-11 14:37:00 mircea_popescu: this is how it manages the inapproximable "whisks" of meaning that latin-style then has so much trouble noting down.
mircea_popescu: spyked, text is nothing of the kind, review the various ambiguity discussion.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-28 06:18:27 mircea_popescu: there's also the argument that the compiler's the arbiter of code, and if ~it~ doesn't complain then fuck you. but in any case i really am not advanced enough to have the impression i have something to say on that matter.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957569 <-- imo this gap between code and text is resolvable: code, as written by human, is ~also~ a particular representation of an ast. so whatever tool is able to eat an ast (immediately brings to mind "the compiler", as it stands) should also be able to print it back formatted according to user-defined rules.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-21 12:43:04 billymg: spyked: left a response to your comment http://billymg.com/2020/01/mp-wp-patch-viewer-and-code-shelf/comment-page-1/#comment-85
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-21#1957068 <-- ty and np. I'm a tad behind on that front too, will read and answer asap
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-26 09:41:00 mircea_popescu: spyked, http://thetarpit.org/2020/botworks-ix?b=But%20what&e=if#select << ahaha ok that was lulzy. i confess it never occured to me it'd work.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957335 <-- yeah, someone accidentally a verb there. seems using CL's built-in reader opens the door to all sorts of weird if improperly handled. I think I got it right this time tho
billymg: oh nm, so when selecting code to copy paste the 'iv' for a footnote isn't also included
billymg: > make a select/dblclick NOT also catch the footnote literal anchor << i'm not sure what the select/dblclick is referring to here
mircea_popescu: will have to say what others think. imo if you can manage to make a select/dblclick NOT also catch the footnote literal anchor, footnotes in codeblocks are great things
billymg: agree, i was hoping to have a fancy demo of footnotes within codeblocks until i ran into the issue of the (()) false positives in some code samples
mircea_popescu: also, i don't think it's intelligent to ban footnotes from code blocks necessarily.
mircea_popescu: the / is spurious. yes, people who get the tag misidentified can just replace the literal [ with an escaped value.
billymg: this tag business is a hard task!
mircea_popescu: unlikely to change.
mircea_popescu: i really don't give that much of a shit ; unless it starts getting in my way odds are i'll ignore it. this isn't even laziness or identity as much as actual political philosophy, and as such rather
mircea_popescu: jfw, speaking of http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2020/whats-on-my-mind/#comment-177 i expect one of the better examples could be perhaps http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-01-08#1767152 ; i dunno if it's universally as obvious from context as it is to me that indeed i'd have paid the tranny had nobody complained. perhaps even after, had it been litigating less retardedly.
billymg: mircea_popescu: also responded to your comment on the post just now, the regex matches content between both open and close delimiters so that's why only adding the / to the close was necessary. i.e. there can be as many [[ in the code as you want and it won't bother the matcher
billymg: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957636 << for bash and things like nested lists/arrays (i believe you were the first to point that out to me in an earlier discussion actually)
mod6: Ah, is that how it usually goes? Auction creator invoices the winner of the auction?
mod6: (I then, in turn, will send the sum over to jurov.)
BingoBoingo: mod6: Sure, do you want to make an invoice?
mod6: BingoBoingo: I'm not sure what the exact protocol here is, but I'm guessing you can pay me if you'd rather, since I ran the auction for the Foundation.
mod6: Alright, well looks I am buying 'Server-A' since there were no bids. Will pay 0.01700000 BTC to jurov (Foundation Treasurer).
auctionbot: Sell order # 1078 has ENDED: Dell R610 PE Server ships from Uruguay (Server-B) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ SOLD to BingoBoingo for 18mn ecu. Attn: mod6
mod6: That's fine too. I do actually want the server, so if bidding on it works, I'm fine with that as well.
BingoBoingo: mod6: I don't know that it's a big deal. I strongly suspect you are buying it at the reserve price.
mod6: Any thoughts on the better course of action?
mod6: I guess on the other hand, if the auction goes bid-less, then I'll just buy the machine for the reserve price from the foundation.
mod6: I'm hoping that if I throw in a bid with my mod6_auction IRC registration for auction #1077, this won't be an issue.
mod6: 'mod6_auction' is my new irc account for bidding on the foundation's auction for the dell servers.
mircea_popescu: in other news, found and quashed yet another utf bug. http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-11-mar-2013/ was only displaying up to http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-11-mar-2013#537603 because the next line contained 👍 which is a wtf
billymg: i see how "each line has its own class" is unclear and could read as "has its own _unique_ class" -- should have said "each line has a class based on its type"
diana_coman: ah, I see; right, colours and/or anything else up to the css; works.
billymg: so you can go in your theme css and add any styles you want for span.line-removed { }
billymg: e.g. the removed lines have class="line-removed" set on them
billymg: diana_coman: ty. re: the line styling, each line has its own class, so can be trivially styled at the theme level to suit any author's preference. i think it should be up to the blog's author to decide how they present their content (and if they do a horrible job of it, their readership loss is on them too)
diana_coman: np; looks not bad atm though I'd even strikethrough the deleted lines tbh