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mats: its a popular thing

pete_dushenski: goddam that hellhole. no different than asciilifeform's 'voluntary a/c turnoff'.

pete_dushenski: "The idea is to understand how people drive in the city"The program will also collect data on when a driver breaks hard or makes a sharp, fast turn. The idea, according to the New York Department of Transportation, is to understand how people drive in the city, in the hopes of solving traffic problems including NYC's famous gridlock."

asciilifeform: lol what a miser !

thestringpuller: 16:42 <@hearn> that's just a normal home connection, not even the fastest available

thestringpuller: 16:42 <@hearn> who said they had to? i don't have a dedicated connection. got 25 mbit/sec upstream

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: share a choice gibblet or two ?

asciilifeform: there is a good case to be made that a pro hitman like mr horiuchi is a considerably less-loathesome creature than a gavin who lies for money

mircea_popescu: it's a start, before we buy some armor.

asciilifeform: 'The FBI’s theatrical professions of regret over Vicki’s death belied the fact that the battalion of combat-outfitted law enforcement personnel on the scene at Ruby Ridge celebrated the killing as a noble victory: With full knowledge that Mrs. Weaver was dead, they named their staging area “Camp Vicki,” and used a public address system to taunt Randy and his by pretending to speak on behalf of his dead wife.'

asciilifeform: 'Horiuchi’s comrades offered the same defense of the FBI sniper’s murderous actions at Ruby Ridge. By killing Vicki, he acted “to save lives,” insisted fellow FBI sniper Dale Monroe. Like the unnamed Iraqi woman, Vicki must be regarded as a hateful, irrational, marginally human creature who simply didn’t understand that when the Empire makes a proprietary claim on you and your family, it is not only a crime but a sin

mircea_popescu: trinque srsly, make a faq.

trinque: mircea_popescu: it is sha256 of the bundle's deed joined by \n - which is used as a private key - from which the pubkey and address are produced

mircea_popescu: other direction ? you kidding man, not shot as much as a bb round this way.

asciilifeform: and prolly collecting a fat pension at this point

asciilifeform: lon horiuchi, for example, is a free man.

asciilifeform: usa is, approximately, a safari preserve. yes, most of the inmates of the zoo will never be shot at, not directly. but every so often the keepers drive the jeep through the safari lands, shoot the most uppity beasts, sometimes invite friends for a sport hunt

asciilifeform: 'course it's not a crime! they won't, after all, riot

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that "cops shot white people so it's not a crime" thing, re katrina.

ben_vulpes eyeskipped over 'me', is a derp

BingoBoingo: Microshit is basically a Shrem, they signed the papers

asciilifeform: i just finished the piece, it is a gem.

asciilifeform: http://www.sigsam.org/bulletin/articles/178/stoutemyer.pdf << again, for anyone who missed this, and is interested in 'derive' or 'mulisp'. this article was co-written by the authors of mulisp and derive! chock-full of implementation details and interesting lore. and yes, it is in pdf. and no, it cannot be represented in ascii. fuckyou buy a printer.

asciilifeform: he's a reverser.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'analmaster' is a double entendre

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall that rms began long before 'personal' variety of computer was worth a sparrow's fart.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the man who digs into an untenable position may be well intended, but he is still not a talented commander.

assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 19:52:22; kakobrekla: find yourself a hot dentist.

assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 19:40:08; ascii_field: 2011 trial "contributed to the mob mentality potentially inherent in instantaneous, unbridled, passionate online discourse," the court said. In light of that, the appellate court found a fair trial wasn't possible.'

asciilifeform: but rms is a man of much greater talent, and isn't really a snake the way esr is.

asciilifeform: emacs in a recognizable form long pre-dated rms.

mircea_popescu: pick a side and die with it. you will.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: don't wait for this letter. after all, he still has a skin for them to take

mircea_popescu: and now ? where's the letter going "i was a fucking imbecile to sign with the usg!!11"

mircea_popescu: derp made a deal, sold out the thing, a decade later is out on his ass.

assbot: Here's what they don't tell you when they bring you those papers to sign on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ql38iY )

assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 18:20:59; pete_dushenski: " It’s not going to make much of a dent in (for example) medical insurance, thanks to the statist bastards who’ve driven health-care costs into the stratosphere through their incessant meddling. (They cost my wife her job, too – that’s been psychologically rough on her.)" << moar esr from punkman's link

asciilifeform assumed it was a spamcorp

trinque: https://twitter.com/PanteraCapital/status/640952461637775360 << definitely a scam

asciilifeform: l0l it's a real american corp

mircea_popescu: just in case any of the friends of scammer&idiot club need to know after a few years why they're blacklisted.

asciilifeform: trinque: you so much as entertained the notion that it is ~not~ a scam ?!!

trinque: http://i.imgur.com/0ZIjfYw.png << upon second inspection, has to be a scam

assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 01:35:19; trinque: thestringpuller: heh that's a great chappelle skit. I was mocking the oft heard magical thinking that diversity in say software companies is *inherently* good.

BingoBoingo: trinque: SUre it isn't a spearfish?

mircea_popescu: you don't see "diversity is inherently good so we've hired a fbi most wanted guy"

trinque: thestringpuller: heh that's a great chappelle skit. I was mocking the oft heard magical thinking that diversity in say software companies is *inherently* good. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: this is an essenmtial ingredient of all action. you have to, in some degree, in some shape, somewhere, not give a fuck. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: they're just numerous and don't give a fuck. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265368 << you're plain out wrong. everyone gets to, and a lot of people much dumber than you are, and have. and you know this for a fact yourself. and will continue to do so. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: the end of social media will come exactly like how nobody could have predicted it by reading a 2014 trilema article.

mircea_popescu: "I want the average redditor to understand that when he interacts with a screen name, he is not interracting with a person."

assbot: Spamming reddit, an "experiment". on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1XDVtRu )

pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: "i saw this once when i was a rookie, nigger broke in and put up picture of his family everywhere. let's sprinkle some crack on him and get outta here."

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265342 << except it's really a case of "how debian is not only stealing linux from the people who made it, but is attempting to steal their having been stolen from, too!" ☝︎

asciilifeform: they want to rule without publicly sitting on a throne, yes

thestringpuller: trinque: nah diversity is a kind of magic dust you sprinkle on your products << could you elaborate? Makes it sound like Chappelle's joke on cops sprinkling crack on black guys at crime scenes. "Open and shut case Johnson! Now lets sprinkle some crack on him and call it a night."

mircea_popescu: This will be useful for the Bitcoin network first and foremost, because Gavin is, by and large, a mentally retarded doofus displaying a shocking amount of Dunning-Kruger syndrome in his assorted dabblings in economics and other hard fields."

assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 16:12:33; pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8l11q9hsJM << “I don't think any of us—especially those five people—want to be the high priests of Bitcoin. We need to find a new way of governing—a new way of coming to decisions and have everyone be happy with the process and the decisions that are reached.”

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265316 << "Part and parcel of the present dispute is to clearly make the point that Gavin Andresen does not have the authority to enact or create a hardfork of the Bitcoin network, nor any sort of significant clout, cachet, power to influence the matter etc. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i dun know how exactly a buncha pakistani would catch up to a russian she-hound.

mircea_popescu: a very modest 5 trillion or something.

mircea_popescu: re the "refugee problem" : so the us has been derping about "being a regional power" and sheriffing things and places for reasons.

asciilifeform: mats: i work with just such a man

mats: maybe. i know of no less than a dozen folks that did such menial labor as retail slavery, telephone support slavery, etc... that got hired on in dev roles after furnishing a repo populated through a year with code motivated by said slavery

asciilifeform: (it is actually script, yes, there is a word for it, aha)

mircea_popescu: mats for the same money, there's still a sense of "t bills are worth something" still in place for a lot of americans.

mats: its an uphill battle, sure. but there's also still a sense of 'meritocracy' in place for a lot of american engineers.

mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, THIS blows a heck of a hole in asciilifeform's fairy tale hopes and dreams

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assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 00:35:43; mircea_popescu: who the fuck even came up with the idea the concept of "career" is meaningful in a space which mostly aims to hire 20yos.

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mircea_popescu: which is why everyone's idea of "career in software" are ridoinculous derps like ers, who do have a career alright

mircea_popescu: when that happens in a field, a career's in principle impossible.

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mircea_popescu: there are fields where careers exist. you can have a career as a surgeon. oncologist diagnosticians in particular are the fathers of all careerdom,

assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 00:32:41; mircea_popescu: and ftrr, what is a "career" ? who do you know that has "a career" ?

asciilifeform: as pictured in the very relevant mircea_popescu piece, 'this is not money that anyone had to work to earn and save, it is created with a button press'

mircea_popescu: i mean time warner paid a billion for myspace which was worth ~0, sure, turner's old and stupid.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265852 << re: this and the entire thread: it might surprise mircea_popescu, but i have never seen this idiocy alive up close, nor know anyone who will attest to having done so; it is really a west coast / sv thing as far as i can tell. ☝︎

asciilifeform: having a job history (and if you paid tax, it is impossible to conceal) counts against you.

trinque: sure not me, I look worth a shit

trinque: yeah but some kid just decides to be a bum, because it's a lifestyle

trinque saw a healthy hippy chick buying expensive groceries with a food-stamps card yesterday

asciilifeform: can get 'food stamps' more often, but need multiple years of tax returns demonstrating being a pauper, typically

assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 00:29:06; mircea_popescu: (that said, i very much doubt any fallout whatsoever can ever occur. so he lost a job ? gets another one. or gets welfare. big whoop.)

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265848 << mircea_popescu, like most non-us folk, has a disastrously exaggerated concept of 'can get welfare.' in practice, you HAVE to be black, female, have bastard children, preferably - all 3 ☝︎

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trinque: mircea_popescu: I was thinking of releasing a script that you hand a doc, and it farts out the address

mircea_popescu: trinque that part's not going away. but a faq page explaining how to construct the payout address would be helpful.

mircea_popescu: midnightmagic a valid point, i don't think the whole thing's properly packaged for public consumption.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not 'because the people' so much as 'because not giving a fuck'

midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: I'd like to start pointing people away from proofofexistence and other incompatible nonsense and IIRC, deedbot is careful/efficient in how it stores stuff in the blockchain. If that is so, I'd like to point newbs at.. like a website or something, if it exists.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265812 << if this recipe were actually followed, you get a usg reich that lasts 10,000 years. still want ? ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 14-06-2014 11:59:24; mircea_popescu: so based on mike_c's discussion last night, i think i have a very good addition to b-a kako. it'd go like this :

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2014#718931 << the spec. iirc trinque's implementation is you concat the msgs and sha512 it for a key seed. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth "arry thought that respect was an asset worth shelling out 150,000 shares of VA for." << jesus esr;s such a twerp.

trinque: kdomanski: since money is political, you might consider it a compass to the extent that you agree with the prevailing politics

mircea_popescu: kdomanski or appears so. i hold it isn't a sophism.

assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 12:51:20; funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264466 <-- absolutely positively the case, ty. What, do you think a starfaring person would travel light years, collect protons, return home?