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hanbot: okay got the planned patch spaghetti untangled, ty asciilifeform. mod6 volunteered to let me torture him tomorrow with release issues. i'll report on how all this goes.

hanbot: asciilifeform i sketched the patch tree like so:

BingoBoingo: Only ever built from makefile generated from bitcoin-qt.pro as even I have limited use cases for this

hanbot: asciilifeform so this route i imagined of installing v0.5.3.1-RELEASE followed by patching with the two bits mentioned in http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000102.html & the patches they themselves require is...impossible? redundant?

trinque: or set -e I think is equivalent

trinque: I added it to mine to deal with blown up steps when fiddling with gcov and libressl

hanbot: i'm hoping to build stator manually. release + patches & antecedents mentioned in stator post.

asciilifeform: incidentally, if this is mod6's 'auto.sh,' i'm afraid that i can't recommend it. it never worked on my system.

hanbot: so i'm attempting reference implementation install for the first time and have a boatload of errors at ./auto.sh , not sure where to begin. if anyone has the time & patience for my noobery, please ding me.

trinque: heh I like that warning

decimation: yeah but in this case I was looking at all results for from:asciilifeform

asciilifeform: if i wanted the machine to care about whitespace, i would have put whitespace in the query

asciilifeform: as far as i can tell, it insists on breaking at word boundaries

decimation: yeah I was aware of the stemming shit, but not that it completely misses things

asciilifeform: considering that i proved that all of the items in the 'magic list' are divisible by 4294967297

mod6: "assbot: I don't do bots, mod6." << lollerskates!

mod6: and.. i don't wanna be the only one who can write tests for this thing :}

mod6: well, i agree. i honestly like perl better, but that's maybe because I've been doing small things in it for 15 years.

trinque: I have my doubts

mod6: again hopefully someone in the future can learn from what I'm doing here and take this over in python.

mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, confirm that on ur one node i'm wedged at 365441 ☟︎

BingoBoingo: I remember you mentioning earlier as source of cheapboxes

BingoBoingo: Node I'm connecting with identifies as protocol version 99992

trinque: I'm reminded of comcast telling me yesterday that "that port 25, that's not yours"

asciilifeform: anyway if this carries on, i will be cancelling my contract with that hoster

BingoBoingo: Oh no I just addnode'd incitatus

asciilifeform: if this is a 'cosmic ray', then i fart monkeys.

asciilifeform: when this was happening to mircea_popescu's node, all i found was sockets opening and then standing entirely still

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm not so sure. Perhaps Walmart was closed or had no scooty puffs for him to ride?

trinque: oh, I just go for a walk for that

hanbot: BingoBoingo isn't it...disadvantageous to be triggerable by something so...abundant? i bet people sensitive to anorexics have a much easier time

BingoBoingo: Maximally triggered https://i.imgur.com/fVzsFLt.jpg

trinque: I expect a general concept of "being terrorised" to develop which is some descendent of being "triggered" and so on

assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 17:10:58; mod6: Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208811 << i am looking forward to the fallout from this :D << heheh. well, with any luck it might help us this time around. my hope is that some python hero will pick up the torch and take this thing forward next time around. ☝︎

trinque: I begin to see how there's a runaway social process here.

BingoBoingo: hanbot: I gave it the redundancy edit by linking the earlier piece

trinque: maybe I'm an idiot, but you can do coroutine patterns in many high level languages

decimation: asciilifeform: did you already have those datasheets I linked last night?

cazalla: danielpbarron, here's a better shot http://i.imgur.com/Ob7rq.jpg

trinque: one more try, then I'll call it good

trinque: not bad; I continue to see parallels between gentoo and openbsd usage patterns

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> so i wanted to know what supports this hypothesis << Generally before crushing trash car's is held for some time and parts sold to mechanics who then sell to their customers for half price of "new" stock

phf: my moscow is gone anyway, 90ые are over, so it's all aparatchiks tightening the screws. and i don't know anyone "on the pipeline"

phf: no, not anymore, not for a while actually, but not as long as ascii seems like. i live in philadelphia and about 1/3 of time in dc

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208865 << shit i had no idea kenyans wore clothes ?! ☝︎

ascii_field: i warned that the buggerz will do exactly this

assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 17:10:58; mod6: Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol.

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208811 << i am looking forward to the fallout from this :D ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 15:03:08; phf: what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization"

assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 15:02:22; phf: pete_dushenski: i'm not in a position to save any one country. if i were putin, i'd buy greece, move greeks off some of the islands, and recreate greek drama with imported nubile slavs, but

solrodar: as well as generating the call graph, I was able to actually build bitcoind against that version, though I didn't test it

assbot: Logged on 19-07-2015 00:40:38; ben_vulpes: <decimation> boost fails to compile << i actually ran into this when hacking against solrodar's clang + graphviz callgraph thinger

solrodar: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-07-2015#1206079 << I was using the OS package from Ubuntu 14.02, which is boost version 1.54 ☝︎

ascii_field: in quite other news, i found a simple and software-only means of reading and writing the nand fw of 'miracast'

trinque: so I'll continue on fiddling with it

trinque: neat, I tried too, ran into some issue, but was going to try again

trinque: I noticed it was forked from the version of openssl in use

ascii_field: i think i saw this, aha

phf: re situation of greece, i think i missed that one somehow

mod6: When I do get around to drafting up all of the scenarios, I'll put that in here as well, maybe you guys can think of other tests that I hvaen't thought of yet. Or edge cases. etc.

mod6: Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol. ☟︎☟︎

mod6: Of course, there will actually be a separate, more formal testing guide that I'll create also.

mod6: But as far as cucumber, even if I have issues with the steps (so far it's been very easy), if I write out the scenarios in the feature, it should be a decent testing guide in itself.

mod6: We'll see where it goes and if I run into too many problems.

mod6: With some effort up front I might be able to automate the ~20 or so scenarios that i've sketched out for the release. Could save all of us a lot of time by installing/emerging a few things on gentoo and then just running these tests instead of having to do all the testing manually.

mod6: so last 24 hours or so I've been working on getting an automated testing framework setup for this forthcoming release. I've got one scenario working (simple one). Here's what it kinda looks like - although this isn't the entire code, there is a module I left out for now. http://dpaste.com/32GZH0A.txt

assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 14:46:29; pete_dushenski: at the same time, i can see why a -person- would bother with italy : architecture, stronger remnants of culture, art, (albeit modest) production capability, some measure of refinement here and there.

mircea_popescu: now, will large herds of worthless schmucks be turnable into an actual population ? i grant it seems dubious.

mircea_popescu: i know from directly verified experimental fact that properly chained and beaten they DO work. the spark to work and be smart and everything's not lost.

assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 14:39:00; asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you think 'hungry people work' - let me guess - because your grandfather was hungry, and worked. today's 'hungry' will not work. not while they have option of eating you and i

mircea_popescu: mats what am i looking at ?

pete_dushenski: "oh, you think i should buy $goog even though you wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole ? ok !"

mircea_popescu: that's EXACTLY what actual revolutionaries are thinking right now. "i wonder if there's some schmuck on a google blog with opinions. let me check!"

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i know, right ?!

mircea_popescu: somehow the "i am not a revolutionary, here are my opinions on how that works" does not give him any pause whatsoever. "i'm a virgin, here's some songs about fucking i wrote". because why ?

mircea_popescu: from what i hear putin's been asked this a lot by the various oligarchs

decimation: ... my mother tongue so I show them this card. It drives me mad. I call this linguistic imperialism."

decimation: http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/may/30/south-tyrol-live-in-italy-feel-austrian "Klotz says: "There are acts of racism each single day. Despite Italian and German both being official languages, I often bump into police officers who don't know German. They point at the Italian flag stitched on their uniform and require I speak Italian simply because we're in Italy. They don't even know that I have the right to speak in ...

decimation: I would wager that nearly all products you think of as 'coming from italy' are made north of florence

mircea_popescu: as "opposed" i guess to energetic mass, m = 2W/v^2

phf: putin be like "oh, so we're buying this shit? i got caash." and germany is like "no no, sshh, we're HELPING, mommy knows best, shoo"

phf: pete_dushenski: that i don't know. i was under the impression that germany came out stand as an independent economic power. with that assumption i don't see german bailout as any different as putin buying the place. with bailout the power lines are all obscured, because the purchase is done within an existing political framework so is not blatant.

pete_dushenski: if you're saying that the eu is failed/failing, which i happen to agree with, then by extension so has their monetary union and the german attempts at 'peaceful' unification of europe.

phf: i don't know if the whole greece situation is a failure though. that /eu/ failed was obvious by 2005 or so. now germans seem to be doing exactly what they want to, that is refine their control over various parts of europe. next it's bailouts for italy, spain, etc. where wehrmacht failed, bundestag succeeds

phf: pete_dushenski: i vaguelly agree with that, but i'd say that's sop opinion here.

kakobrekla: i think he owns a mac punkman

nubbins`: i've passed up on coins because the addresses had extra funds sent to em

nubbins`: reason i'm wondering this is that it came up the other day

phf: what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization" ☟︎☟︎

nubbins`: <+punkman> depends on fee/age/etc << gimme some numbers here! oldest coins i have handy access to haven't moved since sept 2014

phf: pete_dushenski: i'm not in a position to save any one country. if i were putin, i'd buy greece, move greeks off some of the islands, and recreate greek drama with imported nubile slavs, but ☟︎

pete_dushenski: and i'm not saying that the greeks haven't been influential intellectually

phf: russian (and european) literature borrows from greeks as much as it did from italians. i grew up intimately knowing greek mythos and not just from watching Hercules on tv, because you can't read a single russian novel without some greek allusion or outright a direct reference. when i went there i knew places from before even seeing them

pete_dushenski: aha. well i'm in canada but it's largely the same 'culture'.

phf: pete_dushenski: right, and that's what i'm saying is american bias. italy is popularized here because of all the italians, while greece is sometimes vaguely remembered

phf: pete_dushenski: i think that's american bias. as a eurpn i feel the same about greece as you do about itality, though they both are failed states and third world economies

pete_dushenski: at the same time, i can see why a -person- would bother with italy : architecture, stronger remnants of culture, art, (albeit modest) production capability, some measure of refinement here and there. ☟︎

pete_dushenski: i dun see that the group has much recourse against the capitalist.