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phf: i suppose one half of b-
a should start on
a linux distro and the other work on cl-emacs naggum always wanted *ducks*
☟︎ phf: i'm not sure if this is special pleading, or
a case of
a stranger using the technology he doesn't understand to shoot own foot. in the future perhaps expect more "but i'm me i have
a passport from obama" people
ascii_field: 'nocrypto uses bits of C, similarly to other cryptographic libraries written in high-level languages. This was actually less of
a performance concern, and more of
a security one: for the low-level primitives which are tricky to implement and for which known, compact and widely used code already exists, the implementation is probably better reused. The major pitfall we hoped to avoid that way are side-channel attacks.' <<
phf: anton_osika thread reminds me of thomas jefferson arguing for debt relief while heavily indebted, he also uses "this is best for the people" argument, with the main difference that the debt question was at the time open, where's what osika is arguing against is the core idea of gpg contracts. the point of the thread has been fully answered in gpg contracts article and with
a poetic take in hanbot's story, both make the underlying uncompromi
☟︎ ascii_field: prolly more honest than anything that will ever come out of
a usg foundry.
ascii_field: if you can't verify
a block in <10min GUARANTEED you don't have
a computer.
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> need
a clean room and full-time staff to make use of the output. << Cleanroom is the easy part. Staff and actually packaging are far harder
ascii_field: trinque: officially advertise
a built-in keylogger ?
ascii_field: 'He continued: “I know of two instances where people on metered connections went over their data cap for August because of this unwanted download. My own internet (slow DSL) was crawling for
a week or so until I discovered this problem. In fact, that’s what led me to it. Not only does it download, it tries to install every time the computer is booted.”'
ascii_field: An INQUIRER reader pointed out to us that, despite not having 'reserved'
a copy of Windows 10, he had found that the ~BT folder, which has been the home of images of the new operating system since before rollout began, had appeared on his system. He had no plans to upgrade and had not put in
a reservation request.'
trinque: trying to find
a source worth linking, but yes, they're not volunteering info on the site
ascii_field: but it is very clear, from their www, that it is
a 'if you have to ask for prices, you can't afford this' affair.
☟︎ ascii_field: it means that you can get
a crate of bricks
ascii_field: and it takes
a dozen runs or more, to arrive at
a usable chip.
☟︎ trinque: ascii_field: also we're down to 100mn for
a lisp CPU now?
ascii_field: need
a clean room and full-time staff to make use of the output.
ascii_field: last i saw, it gets you NO MOUNTING (you need
a cleanroom of your own to mount the dies), NO TESTING, and 1970-level transistor counts.
trinque: mosis.com was the one I found somebody talking about getting
a run done for
a few k
☟︎ ascii_field: trinque: this is not
a workstation. and arguably it does not need
a unix at all.
trinque: I'd build
a dedicated box solely for using gossipd, browsing the WoTnet, running bitcoind, and very little else
assbot: Logged on 19-08-2015 00:18:24; asciilifeform: cabbie: 'this ford is
a piece of shit. stalled again.' mircea_popescu: 'i have
a solution!' cabbie: 'oh???111' mircea_popescu: 'here, have this broomstick.' cabbie: 'how do i drive customers on that, feed my family' mircea_popescu: 'you misunderstand, my good man. you stuff it in your arse.' cabbie: 'and... how does this feed by family?' mircea_popescu: 'no, you sit there with it in.'
ascii_field: 'want
a glass of beer? here's
a pile of sand, some hops, some barley'
trinque: didn't propose that; proposed
a V repo of tools deps and shell scripts
trinque: *that* someone (maybe I) would be willing to maintain, but not
a whole OS somebody else built
ascii_field: and i personally am NOT interested in
a lowest-common-denominator PIECE OF SHIT
trinque: there was
a project
a while back to get portage on openbsd
ascii_field: trinque: i played with openbsd for
a while and then got fed up with the dependency resolver retardation.
trinque started openbsd-quest
a while back
trinque: I'm sure
a day will come when my particular recipe stops working
trinque: shinohai: the handbook is
a piece of shit
ascii_field: it it ~does~ but uses gentoo's portage, it is
a gentoo.
ascii_field: thing is, if it won't ~correctly~ build x11, emacs & its dependencies, etc. - it is not
a workstation linux.
ascii_field: notice that NOTHING stops anybody from going to the scrapyard, digging up
a pentium-ii, and booting up, e.g., prehistoric slackware on it.
trinque: right, that's
a hell of an exercise ball
ascii_field: trinque: my understanding is that mircea_popescu would like
a linux that is analogous to what we did with therealbitcoin. where the tree is frozen, all arguably-superfluous things are jettisoned, and any further changes must come from wot folk.
☟︎ trinque: that script I wrote approaches
a gentoo installer
shinohai: ascii_field:
A distribution specifically for use with realbitcoin with no unnecessary fluff
ascii_field: trinque: one can build
a working gentoo, yes. on certain hardware, and if the gods smile on you
trinque: you can still build
a sane gentoo these days
trinque: ascii_field | kakobrekla: mircea_popescu's implication was that it ought to be
a sane continuation of what gentoo once was (
a linux for literate folks to use) << danielpbarron was able to produce something with my script
ascii_field: shinohai: what do you actually expect from such
a thing ?
ascii_field: this, incidentally, is ~the~ bar for formalization. IFF you can do it on
a computer, then ~possibly~ you really have
a formal handle on the mechanics. but NOT before then.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 14-09-2015 04:54:13; mircea_popescu: there's going to have to be
a bisection and it's hard work, of the "do not bother me for three days" sort.
ascii_field: as in, if you got one as
a birthday gift, it would be good for perhaps one or two sorties, if that.
ascii_field: something that, were it to exist, would let #b-
a folks set the bozo bit on the rest of the so-called linux komyooniti
☟︎ ascii_field: rather than
a special-purpose item like rotor
ascii_field: kakobrekla: mircea_popescu's implication was that it ought to be
a sane continuation of what gentoo once was (
a linux for literate folks to use)
assbot: Logged on 14-09-2015 04:53:09; ben_vulpes: heh--pull
a foundation and start with an ancient kernel?
assbot: Logged on 14-09-2015 04:52:47; mircea_popescu: there's gotta be
a complete bitcoin distro. kernel and all.
shinohai: fluffypony: "Seriously, wtf. even
a retard can put the wallet.dat on DropBox and be 99% safer than this." <<< LOLZ
☟︎ shinohai: He made
a deal will the devil betting on Ethereum anyway.
thestringpuller: i'm tempted to run
a graph on the nicks in #bitcoin-XT and see which ones of them are connected to known scammers
kakobrekla: we dont have
a problem with words here but with concepts.
anton_osika: I do read. I also have
a talent for getting into tip-of-the-tounge moments, in such cases I make up words...
funkenstein_: "luke, I am your father". "No it's not true, sign
a statement with his key bitch"
funkenstein_:
a signed statement from "enough" people in counterparty's WOT that the spirit of key
A now resides in key B would be the only way
shinohai: I have
a paltry node budget, I run it anyway.
fluffypony: cazalla: he follows me on Twitter and we've pm'd
a bit, don't know him outside of that
ben_vulpes: it's great -
a whole new world of indignities and hilarities to enjoy the spectacle of
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> there's gotta be
a complete bitcoin distro. kernel and all. << What, rotor stopped making enough Linux?
mircea_popescu: the problem is that until and unless someone takes
a serious byte out of making the damned thing, it's kind of hard to guess if and how the graph is actually summarizable, or w/e the term is.
mircea_popescu: maybe 1% or so is the best you can hope for, as
a human.
mircea_popescu: wich strictly means that
a) mathematics is not open to human beings and b) even ultraspecialised approaches are pushing the proposition.
assbot: Logged on 14-09-2015 02:34:49; asciilifeform: problem is, most folks asking for this kind of thing, have vastly overoptimistic idea of what can be expected from
a single book and
a reasonable amount of study.
mircea_popescu: <gernika> I feared as much. << the objection is valid, and in no way different from "you can have
a working os, i sort-of have one here, it's made out of 400 pieces and i could maybe remake it if i had
a week off."
mircea_popescu: there's going to have to be
a bisection and it's hard work, of the "do not bother me for three days" sort.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: heh--pull
a foundation and start with an ancient kernel?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and go to great lengths to manually bypass barriers << incidentally, this is why
a b-
a linux is such
a low hanging fruit.