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ben_vulpes: i suspect that they're not using emacs, but rather doing the "compile, run" thing.
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I don't know anything aobut libuv and as such didn't comment.
ben_vulpes: that said, give me six hours and i can figure out whatever's in flight and load it into someone else's head.
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: i'd probably bite it off myself, simply because there isn't much by way of CL horsepower around the shop.
gabriel_laddel: I'm mentioning this because people say it's so goddamn hard to get CL work, which I have not found to be the case.
ben_vulpes: or the bezzlequivalent. i ain't picky - food credits is food credits.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i can't resist asking - why would anybody want to be on that list for free ??
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 02:55:08; trinque: motherfucker... I google this AWS issue I'm having, and find myself bitching about said problem here two months ago
gabriel_laddel: I've a list of programmers included in the "info" tab of the program I wrote for work. The idea being that if I"m not around and something goes wrong, they contact one of these people. Let me know if you want to be on that list.
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 19:11:55; trinque: I'm growing convinced that CLOS plus something intelligently mapping objects into and out of memory does everything I've ever called "database"
ben_vulpes: solrodar, asciilifeform: http://cascadianhacker.com/bitcoin/callgraph/ << the sexprs generate, the scripts run, the svg is nominally an svg (eg has piles of xml i don't care to sift through) but doesn't render anything through any tools I have on hand. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 10:59:15; mircea_popescu: specifgically i will put asciilifeform, ben_vulpes and everyone else on notice to the following fact : if you don't effectually and effectively take delivery of these sorts of things, it's not that my 1 btc or w/e is wasted. it's thjat the remainder of my stash is wasted, because lo! i can not use it to direct activity. help me help you over here wouldja.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213115 << mircea_popescu: solrodar got my message, knows where i am in derping along to testing his work. ☝︎
trinque: I'm growing convinced that CLOS plus something intelligently mapping objects into and out of memory does everything I've ever called "database" ☟︎
trinque: as it happens, I have those two books gabriel_laddel recommended on the way
trinque: in other news, I think the db project I've described was us inventing a shittier metaobject protocol in SQL
asciilifeform: wywialm: active in the sense that i'm not dead yet
wywialm: perhaps I misunderstood you, but I read that you plan to design a sane os and (in other blog posts) pointed to opengenera as an example of such system
asciilifeform: i don't have a project inspired by opengenera
wywialm: I one got fascinated by asciilifeform's project inspired by OpenGenera - is it still active?
trinque: openbsd dead yet? I just grew to like it, so I'm sure it must be
mircea_popescu: i just said i used to use it. and nah. i'd still recomend sarge o.O
wywialm: I know you once recommended debian sarge. Would you recommend wheezy now?
wywialm: hi, I'm sure it has already been somehow settled - what is recommended instead of debian?
mircea_popescu: am i correct in reading between the lines of hanbot's efforts that in point of fact someone carefully packaged a debian/ubuntu "equivalent" of the gcc package that allows static linking which in point of fact and quite pointedly DOES NOT allow static linking ?
mircea_popescu: re that image, i notice i've mostly been using... nano
trinque: now sum that across my career... how many superior ways of working have I *not* developed because the time involved didn't feel worth it?
trinque: far from impossible, yet cost is too damn high for me not to lose interest by the time I'm squirting JS at a browser from emacs
trinque: from where I sit currently, I wouldn't even bother
trinque: I'm trumping up an example that demands composable behavior across several programs
trinque: I want it gone when my cursor leaves, all that
trinque: jurov: lets say I like this particular web site's regex tester, and I want that in a particular spot each time I am editing a regex in emacs
trinque: and I will never release summon, because it's a piece of shit
trinque: I don't wanna arrange my goddamn tools each tie
trinque: jurov: an example, I have keybindings for various stages of various workflows
trinque: this joke I'm working with currently is the shanty-house I cobbled together out of scrap metal
trinque: so here I am in 2015 with stumpwm stapled to emacs, blood leaking from the field sutures
trinque: I think he saw a computer as an appliance
trinque: sort of what I meant by it
trinque: looking at where it ended up, I don't really have that much respect for Jobs
shinohai: I haven't. Does the acid do something unique?
shinohai: Well, guess I'll just rinse this out and stretch it over the end of the broom to dry ....
trinque: I find the damn things extremely annoying
pete_dushenski: i dun think i ever broke more than one magnum in all my years.
mircea_popescu: speaking of condoms... for many years, i was using imported magnums. broke like...i dunno, twenty over a decade ? easily 1%. ☟︎
trinque: the difference seemed to address a need I have for picking the damn thing up, breaking it, so on, to understand fully
trinque: was interesting, I hadn't read that profile before, and it seemed to fit rather well
trinque: I bothered to take the first myers-briggs test on your penultimate post
pete_dushenski: i didn't get the 'emoji' tie-in till i just tried searching for images a minute ago.
pete_dushenski: i honestly thought it was just a response to coke's bizarrely succesful 'names' campaign
jurov: lol first time i saw that. they prolly knew it's not suitable in this corner of world
shinohai: Every build I have tried so far has been smooth *except* for the pogo, pirate warnings be damned.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213050 << not gunna lie. alf's skull and crossbones routine has actively deterred me from tinkering with 0.5.x releases. i'm probably not alone in waiting for the 'official perfect release' either. ☝︎
shinohai: I inherited one from my grandmother, wouldn't take a bzillion dollars for it.
shinohai: I'm actually following asciilifeform 's excellent tea advice today while doing pogo research. On my second pot already.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i meant "still there" in a more abstract sense. yes there's not currently hay supplies and horse barns. but if need be - they can be.
shinohai: I haven't been to theatre in forever, but I do plan on going to see Hateful Eight.
mircea_popescu: or i suppose for the same reason i'd visit a viking boat.
mircea_popescu: and the only reason i'd go to a movie theatre is to get a public blowjob.
asciilifeform: to the point that i'd much rather program for, e.g., s/390, than for pc.
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 10:15:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1212997 << i vaguely remember people trying to hire someone to summarize all this. it.... never got anywhere.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213050 << nonsensical? beg to differ. or do i have to post a binary with priv elevation that actually ~does~ format hdd, to prove this point ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 14:37:04; shinohai: https://raymii.org/s/articles/Running_TSS_8_on_the_DEC_PiDP-8_i_and_SIMH.html
assbot: Running TSS/8 on the DEC PiDP-8/i and SIMH - Raymii.org ... ( http://bit.ly/1S3Z3UW )
shinohai: https://raymii.org/s/articles/Running_TSS_8_on_the_DEC_PiDP-8_i_and_SIMH.html ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "The software industry has turned into a pyramid game because the government valuation strategies for software have penalized longevity. It has absolutely _nothing_ to do with the so-called "rapid pace" of the technological development. It isn't rapid and I'll dispute a claim of general development, too. It's all about marketing old ideas in new and ever more shiny wrappings, and nobody does that better than Microso
solrodar: so I ended up two degrees of separation away from the person paying me :P
solrodar: asciilifeform didn't like the graph layout but was willing to accept it as long as I released details of how it was produced
mircea_popescu: actually looking at the ratings i would guess this was actually accepted and i just didn't get the memo. all the better.
mircea_popescu: specifgically i will put asciilifeform, ben_vulpes and everyone else on notice to the following fact : if you don't effectually and effectively take delivery of these sorts of things, it's not that my 1 btc or w/e is wasted. it's thjat the remainder of my stash is wasted, because lo! i can not use it to direct activity. help me help you over here wouldja. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: that's ok, i
solrodar: mircea_popescu: I don't want to pester the developers to deal with something they're not really interested in
mircea_popescu: anyway, i think the proper thing to do here is pay out.
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 08:11:58; ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/bitcoin/scan-build/ << not much of interest, but i thought that i'd share clang's opinion with derp anzers
mircea_popescu: i don't wanna die in the stupidboat.
mircea_popescu: i personally knew my father was a retard when i was about thirteen, and he threw a fit insisting i "stop using tools for other purposes than they were made".
mircea_popescu: if i buy a knife, I OWN THE KNIFE. and whether i use it fifty times or three, whether i am the most frequent user of the knife or least, whether i make most money from its usage opr least, this is entirely my business.
mircea_popescu: for the record, the notion that some twerps may charge "per runtime" is such corrosive nonsense i have no fucking idea who or why would ever defend it.
mircea_popescu: " If we apply an interpreter of British understatements and general vagueness in preference to precision, however, I get the impression you're trying very hard to have an opinion about another company, which _does_ have royalties as part of their business model and that you are trying to invalidate that model by implication."
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 07:58:50; jurov: "In my research, I looked to see how old the idea was that medieval Christians believed the earth was flat....No one before the 1830s believed that medieval people thought that the earth was flat."
mircea_popescu: just like women gotta "be sluts" or else your paniced bipedal dog is too afraid of black holes to stick his wee wee into the right hole, just so microsoft must be there for a hundred milion autistic schmucks to be even able to get out of bed i nthe morning.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1212997 << i vaguely remember people trying to hire someone to summarize all this. it.... never got anywhere. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: lol damn i should read three lines ahead.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1212935 << it's basically why I/we use -a ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 02:55:08; trinque: motherfucker... I google this AWS issue I'm having, and find myself bitching about said problem here two months ago
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 02:25:03; decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212646 < this is a good point (taxation is always political). yet it does have economic consequences, and I would prefer to distort the economy toward favoring work and saving over consumption
ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/bitcoin/scan-build/ << not much of interest, but i thought that i'd share clang's opinion with derp anzers ☟︎
jurov: asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: no turdatron runs on linux. so far all the cases happened on client, i won't mind this further until you say "i have checked my outbox and it's not mutilated there"
jurov: "In my research, I looked to see how old the idea was that medieval Christians believed the earth was flat....No one before the 1830s believed that medieval people thought that the earth was flat." ☟︎
decimation: heh yeah I was amused by the same paragraph, where naggum predicts the fall of micrsoft, that's more-or-less playing out now
asciilifeform: ly those in the government offices in charge of squeezing the juice of out the produce of society. I think the software crisis has been created by the tax laws and government officials who were unable to understand the value of the computer industry products. Since the Western business world is operating very closely in a trigger-response pattern relative to changes to the tax laws, the regulators are fully to blame for the
asciilifeform: 'Personally, I think the whole business model of the software industry is rotten to the core. Microsoft is not even a contributory cause -- Bill Gates isn't smart enough to invent or create something like this. It used to be the norm that software was essentially free (gratis) and just vehicles to move hardware, which was tangible enough to make it easy for the anal-retentive beancounters to count and weigh and such, especial
decimation: I think they have a non-profit free version now?
asciilifeform: decimation: actually i was mistaken. it was franz/allegro who charged royalties
decimation: yeah but I've noticed an uptick in stories about it recently
asciilifeform: decimation: sometimes even goes the other way! i was recently surprised to learn that 'lispworks' no longer charges per-runtime royalties
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i confess that i have not attempted to run it << i haven't had a chance either. will give it a go this week.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i confess that i have not attempted to run it
mod6: at some point next month, i write up a guide on how to set up cucumber as well so any one else who wants to use this can do so on their own environment.
mod6: i was pretty happy with postfix when i ran an mta like a hundred million internet years ago