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asciilifeform: more of a tensor.
asciilifeform: it isn't a scalar.
asciilifeform: my current understanding is that treating price as a scalar is loony
mircea_popescu: bitcoin has a history coming up from 1 cent.
asciilifeform: possibly this sounds batshit, but it could explain why the 'early adopt' folks were so eager to part with their coin in return for a song and a promise
mircea_popescu: there's a difference, a major difference at work here.
asciilifeform given that we had the thread re: 'market depths' today, cannot help but wonder whether a fella with, e.g., 10,000 btc in those times did ~not~ actually see himself as in possession of 40,000 usd
mircea_popescu: whichy, as he said then and i believed then, set him back a few months of dayjob.
asciilifeform: but isn't this because a sandwich cost 100,000 btc at the time?
mircea_popescu: top tier ~= enthusiasts with a spare basement.
mircea_popescu: eh, at the time we're discussing nobody in bitcoin had enough money for a spare sandwich.
asciilifeform: as i understood, a negrate is a kind of radioactive tomb, a warning to others
asciilifeform: (when does it make sense to unrate a fuckwit, vs keep -10)
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asciilifeform: 'I saw a huge steam roller, / It blotted out the sun. / The people all lay down, lay down; / They did not try to run. / ... ...' - k. vonnegut
mircea_popescu: dude, this is so cool, getting to see the 50s first hand from atop a mountain of prime veal and home made black forest ...
mircea_popescu: ahahaha fucktarded gestapo is iliterate so xi ended up with a giant step forward sorta deal ?
assbot: Logged on 17-09-2015 18:45:27; ascii_field: the canonical 'two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner'
assbot: I used to work in the same research field as Xi. A very nice guy, did some very ... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHsNn4 )
assbot: Xiaoxing Xi isn't a Chinese spy after all | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHsLLJ )
punkman: http://qntra.net/2015/09/xiaoxing-xi-isnt-a-chinese-spy-after-all/ << https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10207388
punkman: it looked more like a cunt from that other angle
mircea_popescu: a dysfunctional legal system makes suicide bombing a necessity. you don't like that, fix the fucking legal system.
punkman: or "I wonder what a survey of Jews and Christians would show re: justification of drone bombings."
punkman: for chrome users: http://a/%%30%30
gribble: artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 weeks, 3 days, 2 hours, 58 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <artifexd> I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
pete_dushenski: for a node network n00b, i found the aforejizzed quote quite interesting ☟︎
asciilifeform: didja key that in on a telegraph or what
pete_dushenski: receiving an ADDR message with a newer timestamp for
pete_dushenski: knew about x. Finally, a node will update addrMan upon
pete_dushenski: x makes a new connection, its address propagates in the
pete_dushenski: with a hitherto unknown address joins the network, the
pete_dushenski: bors know every twenty-four hours. Thus when a node
pete_dushenski: response or a new connection, they choose two peers at
pete_dushenski: fewer than 10 entries, either as the result of a GETADDR
pete_dushenski: neighbor). When nodes receive a ADDR messages with
pete_dushenski: connection from n, a node x sends an ADDR message, to a
pete_dushenski: "Finally, we note that a node can send unsolicited ADDR
asciilifeform: '... Whatever their tactics, what CS bureaucrats always sacrifice is relevance. Of course everyone has a conscience, and everyone would like to be actually relevant. But, especially when the only people checking up are your own godfathers in the funding agencies, it's much easier to pretend to be relevant. Actual relevance is extremely difficult to achieve, and hardly rewarding at all. In fact it's embarrassing, because everyo
asciilifeform: st, by turning it into a form of mathematics. Math outcompetes creative programming in the funding process, simply because it appears to be more rigorous. It is more rigorous, and it generates a longer, deeper river of more impressive publications. And, because its area is nominally applied, it doesn't have to compete with the real mathematicians over in "algorithms," who would clean the bureaucrats' clocks in five minutes.'
asciilifeform: as for why this general thing, see mr mold: 'The CS-research bureaucrat's main difficulty is that no one wants to fund bureaucrats. Therefore, he must pretend to be either a creative programmer or a mathematician, preferably both. Since this task is critical to his survival, he is extremely good at it. The bureaucrat has many strategies. But probably his best is to take an area of creative programming and devour it like a locu
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pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279901 << 'he found me in a mental hospital' ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279882 << 'protoshares' rings a bell, now that you mention it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: and what the fuck do people smoke that makes them release a compiler without tree shaking?
asciilifeform: the 'large binaries' are a 200kB helloworld ~and~ dynamically link libc.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279827 <<< this was a great sunday morning read ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 15:58:44; pete_dushenski: i remember way back when bitshares was a new thing, all the local kidz (some of whom were twice my age) jumping aboard and mining and trying to swindle me into it
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279839 << i just came out of a shop near dc, it sold that same mimolette (as far as naked eye could tell) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 22:32:40; phf: asciilifeform: phf: they all have fuckin' ~huge~ binaries so far as i'm concerned << i don't think i was too picky at the time, i.e. cmucl dumps 20mb images, and my main concern was audio latency anyway. oh i also used mlkit for that reason, it uses a combination of frame based memory management and gc, so you can have realtime guarantees.
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 22:40:54; phf: if b-a was a 1912 revolutionary clique, pete would be a hotheaded guy with a nagant, shooting up chandelier to announce our arrival. "comrade mats was questioning comrade lenin's communique, so i gave him nagant to the gut."
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 22:12:54; phf: http://www.wired.com/2015/09/amazon-tablet-casio-calculator/ << "the pricey calculator" section about new casio s100, which costs $220, about as much ebay hp-16c, but otherwise is a piece of shit
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279842 << lulzy. for comparison, i picked up a (turned out, virginal (!!!)) ti-92plus for 25 usd. ☝︎
phf: if b-a was a 1912 revolutionary clique, pete would be a hotheaded guy with a nagant, shooting up chandelier to announce our arrival. "comrade mats was questioning comrade lenin's communique, so i gave him nagant to the gut." ☟︎
shinohai: thx will add that, need to write a simple script that can show which are on/off etc
phf: asciilifeform: phf: they all have fuckin' ~huge~ binaries so far as i'm concerned << i don't think i was too picky at the time, i.e. cmucl dumps 20mb images, and my main concern was audio latency anyway. oh i also used mlkit for that reason, it uses a combination of frame based memory management and gc, so you can have realtime guarantees. ☟︎
shinohai: To all reading the b-a logs: I wish to compile a list of realbitcoin nodes so if you have one I can list feel free to ping.
shinohai: b-a has the brightest minds in bitcoin finance, yet I never hear anyone here hawking the latest hardware.
phf: i wouldn't have posted otherwise, but for the recent calculator discussions. all the talk about "limited edition retro appeal" in stark contrast to b-a considerations
phf: http://www.wired.com/2015/09/amazon-tablet-casio-calculator/ << "the pricey calculator" section about new casio s100, which costs $220, about as much ebay hp-16c, but otherwise is a piece of shit ☟︎
shinohai: not bad ag3nt_zer0 having a glass or 8 of wine and you?
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 17:06:23; mircea_popescu: "In the deal, Hooli would invest $200 million for equity while in return the two companies would enter into a business development agreement on the side in which Pied Piper guarantees to spend that money in a massive consumer campaign on Hooli’s ad platform."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279776 << this is about a tv series, 'silicon valley', which is a merciless parody of the whole idiot culture and actually worth seeing ☝︎
assbot: The Perl Jam: Exploiting a 20 Year-old Vulnerability [31c3] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lp8Obx )
pete_dushenski off for a haircut and some exercise (fear not, the jewfro will survive)
mircea_popescu: the only problem with it is that it's a profession, and you don't have a clue how it works.
ben_vulpes: this is relevant to a question i've been mulling of late. say a new client shows up at my door, and i like their shit so much i want to buy a chunk of it. how would i navigate both owning a chunk of the new company and also my consulting company that would be building large swathes of the product? seems a bit ethically and incentive-alignmently fraught.
mircea_popescu: "In the deal, Hooli would invest $200 million for equity while in return the two companies would enter into a business development agreement on the side in which Pied Piper guarantees to spend that money in a massive consumer campaign on Hooli’s ad platform." ☟︎
ben_vulpes pours out a drink for the memory of trinque in town
mircea_popescu: http://heidiroizen.tumblr.com/post/118473647305/how-to-build-a-unicorn-from-scratch-and-walk
pete_dushenski: it's the most meaningless source in the universe for a journalist to cite
pete_dushenski: this is precisely what i mean by 'economists' of which noah smith is a prime example
mircea_popescu: "Many economists believe that balance sheet losses are irrelevant for a central bank, so they should play no role in policy."
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ivananucar.jpg << the competition for 'best troll name' intensifies. this, from a local car dealer.
pete_dushenski: "General Motors admitted wrongdoing and will pay a $900-million penalty, but will avoid federal prosecution for its mishandling of an ignition-switch defect in some of its older cars." << even 'chosen ones' have to pay their tithes/baksheesh.
pete_dushenski: there are probably a raft of 'polimedia' links on loper that do the same.
mircea_popescu: "Former heavyweight boxing champion Mike Tyson has joined forces with a cryptocurrency firm to bring bitcoin ATMs to Las Vegas. The deal with Conexus and Bitcoin Direct is believed to be the first celebrity partnership in the bitcoin industry."
mircea_popescu: the company ? which the guy called "a major breakthrough in finance" ?
pete_dushenski: "President Barack Obama nominated Eric Fanning to become the next secretary of the Army, the White House said, paving the way for the first openly gay leader of a military service branch in U.S. history."
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 14:26:49; punkman: "Ethercoin is a proof-of-stake blockchain with a fixed supply of coins provably backed by REAL ethers purchased from the Ethereum sale"
pete_dushenski: "Ethercoins are redeemable for Ether on a 1:1 basis."
mircea_popescu: i suspect it was a deliberate jab
mircea_popescu: dude that eth bet's a killer lol
pete_dushenski: i remember way back when bitshares was a new thing, all the local kidz (some of whom were twice my age) jumping aboard and mining and trying to swindle me into it ☟︎
mircea_popescu: If you tumbled over the term interest, you probably read an outdated posted. Sorry to tell you but there is no interest on your bitUSD ... for legal reasons ... thus the community decided to call it a yield :-). That yield is payed out every time you transfer bitUSD (that are older than 24h). This effectively is an interest, but has an other name. Check out the our info graphic about is:"
mircea_popescu: "BTS's consensus algorithm is DPOS, which is roughly that stakeholders vote on a relatively small set of block validators (~100). All stakeholders care about is "sufficient" decentralization - block validators are quick to replace. These validators can be high-performance servers."
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder that shit site's still around.
assbot: Is this a dream? : BitShares ... ( http://bit.ly/1KXOzmC )
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitShares/comments/3js068/is_this_a_dream/ << o brother, the traders.
mircea_popescu: why would that be the case, the less liquid a market is the more hope driven it is.
asciilifeform: but also, unless i catastrophically misunderstand, 'market cap' is a pseudoscientific measure to begin with.
mircea_popescu: someone fucking explain to me what is the MEANING of "quarter billion mkt cap" over half a million trade volume.
mircea_popescu: so since i'm now looking at the table of "crypto currencies", as if that's a thing now (hey, why not you know, alternate centers of gravity - why not!!1), here's a table :
mircea_popescu: so far it's more like a "pack of wild dogs invaded your living room ? quick, drop some squaky toys on the floor!11"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i also suspect that one of the drivers of usg interest in demented pseudo-bitcoin contraptions ('permissioned blockchain technology!') is that these folks dream of a hybrid bulldog-rhinoceros, 'best of both', where usg can electronically steal everything you have, but without any bureaucratic snags - it will look precisely like a voluntary donation, from a mathematical standpoint
asciilifeform: and if you ~do~ have a 'good reason', you might still be dekulakized
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa, if you are so much as seen publicly with a bag of cash big enough for a car (much less a house) - immediate jail, unless you have an alibi