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asciilifeform: lol rly will compare ipadistry to good ol' proper gamez ??
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 17:30 asciilifeform: was frightening thing.
mircea_popescu: phf apparently http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750670 exaggeration then ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it got my mom off gaming for life ; at first she was kinda into it, but then lost track and burned a steak. got so pissed off she swore off gaminf forever! and stuck to it.
a111: Logged on 2014-02-19 15:51 asciilifeform: brother and i played this on our 'Iskra' (xt clone) and combed three different dictionaries to learn what the fuck an osha is
phf: there's actually a bunch of games that i only have a vague awareness of that i only spent an hour or two playing at various research facilities and construction sites
asciilifeform: recall the room with the cheese ?
phf: mircea_popescu: alley cat triggers some ~really~ old memories, i.e. i played it before i even have conscious awareness of things
mircea_popescu: aha! that was my 2nd i think ; after the jumping jack one
mircea_popescu: anyone recall that one ? you're an alley cat ?
mircea_popescu: phf i recently mastered captain comic with my sister. we used to play it (she shot) when she was like...5 ; then we ACTUALLY managed to finish it, for the first time ever. she was more like 25.
mircea_popescu: that game actually owned any possible videogame store item, they had those quarter operated console things ?
phf: i've actually tried playing it quite recently, i couldn't get more than 2 screens forward. i've gotten soft with these modern "video games"
phf: could be played on my dad's computer at the NII though :p
asciilifeform: it ate 100% cpu tho
mircea_popescu: molst of the better ones did. they towards the end managed even VOICE
asciilifeform: e.g. msdos megagame 'star control 2' used this type of audio
asciilifeform: you could know that a proggy used this method if you tried to run it on a comp with piezo beeper: would sound like rubbish
mircea_popescu: phf yeah but this sounds like 486 fare
asciilifeform: and was played using clever method , where normally '1-bit' pc speaker membrane was allowed to travel 'partial' way , squeezing extra 'bitness' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: gah i wish i remembered wtf it was called. it actually had equalizers and shit. 640px vga too
phf: well, winamp had a visualizer plugin for it, written by a democoder guy who went into gaming (he did, for example, the visualizer for the original xbox). it was a kind of visuals construction kit
mircea_popescu: MPEG only sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: no soundblaster or anything, used the speaker. i imagine it cheated and clipped to 16 bit.
phf: there was for example the game of life editor/simulator and at the same time winamp with a bunch of plugins bundled
mircea_popescu: that is true
asciilifeform: sorta what a kid is, neh, this brownian-motion probe that goes and first does, ~then~ possibly finds out 'why', if it lives.
mircea_popescu: "O WOW TECHNOLOGY!" ~that~ was the technology. somehow.
mircea_popescu: there was a mp3 player that ran on the 286, i played clayderman on it while the dots moved. i guess it was kinda cool, or at least teh girls liked it lots.\
asciilifeform: kidz alsowanted to know the 'why'. is, i suppose, why they did it.
phf: that was basically what it was. i think there was maybe 3 total "cyberdrug" programs, but the rest was basically visualizers and sound generators lifted from all over
mircea_popescu: wtf is the "psychedelic" supposed to do, i never could figure out. all sort and manner of kids were into all sorta manner of "psychedleic" bullcrap, from special light-things to "interpret" the music (installed eg under car seats! made the whole experience fucking nauseous) to what have you. but... why ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 17:30 phf: asciilifeform: i actually bought, at some point, at "garbushka" bazaar, a cd with a psychedelic design, that had an entire collection of all kinds of "computernarcotic" softwares
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750671 << my interest in that stuff was limited to those "unfocus eyes for 3d" things ; and fractals ; and shit like that. ☝︎
asciilifeform: nao this is so.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lift discussion notwithstanding, ~best possible thing that can happen to a girl is to spend her 6 to 16 decade going up and down 12 flights of stairs 12+ times each day.
asciilifeform: ( consider the often-used 'light' punishment in su penal code : 'the 101st kilometre' . i.e. exile-from-moscow. )
mircea_popescu: stolen from the paint factory.
mircea_popescu: buncha people actually used toluene
diana_coman: at least that: in ploiesti you could get it ...probably even directly from the air I suppose
mircea_popescu: you could have i dun recall, maybe 10 galons/mo ? and the queues looked almost like modern traffic jams.
mircea_popescu: now, the gasoline, that was a major fucking issue.
mircea_popescu: fancy that wonder.
mircea_popescu: i don't recall the power ever going out.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman but cluj wasn't slatina. it had... computers and chocolate factory and panties and you know... large campus for all the arab friends.
phf: oh yeah, the electricity thing…
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, myeah; worked as long as there was electricity; and if you lived in a town with any big industry,there would be random blackouts meaning you'd get stuck in the lift between floors
phf: i don't think i've ever seen a non-working lift in moscow! certainly never two (and there's always two in those 15s) at the same time
mircea_popescu: ALL SORTS of bs the sovtards were doing other places never happened here.
mircea_popescu: transylvania had this great advantage over run of the mill russo-kirghizstan, in that it was old crown land.
asciilifeform: i ended up, briefly , in a 15 . gotta wonder where the 15 came from , possibly it is 'tallest that folx can endure regularly walking up to with groceries , given that lift ~never works'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there isn't ; chiefly because the old folk didn't want to think about it and the kids such as me had no idea it even existed. "suspicious of trad houses" hides a lot of meaning.
phf: i suspect downtown, where they had "early 1900s flat"s, it was a bit different, but on the periphery of the city, where they had "sleeping neighborhoods" it was pretty much the same as described. (we had 15 storied buildings with a slightly more space in between instead)
asciilifeform: ( is there a straight ro equiv word ..? )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the happy female is plain and direct. the poorly quartered female is neurotic and generally obnoxious.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aspect of the coy behaviour.
mircea_popescu: possibly the lowest precious cuntlet factor i ever encountered in my life ; and i personally credit the active male population and high density.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of idle and stupid pompousness "traditional" society still clinged to after ww2 in europe.
mircea_popescu: such as having to explain why she's supposed to strip.
mircea_popescu: honeslty i much preferred the density. made all sorts of буржуй bullshit untenable and plain-evidently not desirable. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there was answer! "cheaper to heat"!
asciilifeform: i recall asking why is the ceiling low, and nobody had answer.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform must confess, that he did not live in a hurscheba-type until it was almost time for the airplane ( after the ancestral home , an early 1900s flat , had been sold )
mircea_popescu: it was almost entirely built late 60s and throughout 70s, and populated as it was built.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this item ran for maybe 10 or 20 sqm, in which there were however many thousands of the blocks they could fit.
mircea_popescu: it wasn't even a bad design tbh
asciilifeform: dish antennae, toyotas.
mircea_popescu: taller item on down right is a hospital actually. the rest, typical ro 4+1 double-sided apt buildings, 3 rooms and 4 rooms, for 2 parents + 2 kids.
mircea_popescu: all those were there when i was 5
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how much of the old-times flats still stand ?
mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Blick_%C3%BCber_den_S%C3%BCden_von_Cluj.JPG << there
mircea_popescu: it was called... the aurora!
asciilifeform: but they dun have these in usa, afaik.
asciilifeform: aha. if mircea_popescu's orcistan looked anything like the old-town of timis, then it looked quite like asciilifeform's.
mircea_popescu: but asciilifeform perhaps also knew this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i lived (with 10`000 other kids all my exact age) in a purely hruscheba neighbourhood ; to the point i was SUSPICIOUS of traditional houses.
asciilifeform: for typical usaschwitz inmate, 'acreage' is measured either in decimal 'dust' fluff ( if mortgagist ) or in big fat 0 ( if urban zek ) . but mircea_popescu probably knew this.
mircea_popescu: this bookended by full jars of jam on either side carried me well into two digit age.
mircea_popescu: as a kid what i did with my time was that i ran up three flights of stairs to drink (straight from the faucet, who the everloving fuck has the time or the patience for glasses!) a stomachfull of water, then run back down and keep fucking running.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 17:29 phf: apropos, i was always curious if that old school binaural sound generator program from the late 90s could be used to pacify children, but never had a chance to try
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750661 a better question is why exactly does one want to pacify them. god knows the erect penis is the only item in short supply, why fuck with it. how about instead of spedning a dime to "pacify", spend the dime to buy more acreage ; get them a dog and don't let them back in the house until the dog's not so exhausted it can't stand up. ☝︎
asciilifeform: in asciilifeform's eyes also that was the piece that made the d00d stand up from the background hiss
mircea_popescu: in fact, the item that brought him to my attention.
mircea_popescu: great piece, too.
asciilifeform: ahahaha it's from that piece that he deleted
mircea_popescu: at an inner city clinic, you may think you're an independent contractor, but you're really working for The Man (but with no pension.) That's the system. Cut SSI payments and those docs-- and nurses and etc-- don't get paid." on steroids.
mircea_popescu: affiliate. "Hi, this is Bill from Cleveland, and I blame liberals." Son of a bitch, why didn't I think of that. The system not only pays poor people, it employs lots and lots of almost poor people. I'm not saying this is a good thing, or a desirable thing, I am simply stating a fact. Some of these are direct government jobs (e.g. staff down at the SSI office) and some are pretend private sector jobs. If you're a psychiatrist ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 17:29 ben_vulpes: some yes! monetization algorithms get the humans to do a lot of the work as well, which helps the whole 'ecosystem' escape local minima
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750659 << word! the WHOLE schtick with the "monetization" nonsense is 100% "hey kid... wanna take a job with no security, no insurance and subminimum wage ?" ; ie "This is the system. If you think you can effect a huge social overhaul then feel free to vote for Hope And Change and ongoing Afghanistan deployments, otherwise understand how it works before you spew nonsense to your local Fox ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 17:27 ben_vulpes: dude the horror that is youtube's autoselected content for wee ones is unplumbable.
mircea_popescu: "hey, you're supposed to not get angry!"
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 17:23 phf: clearly, it meditates on the child's behalf
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750644 << is there something more fun than pestering the meditation-type chick while she's trying to ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ozarks are like... the altcoin of wales.
mircea_popescu: doesn't pay as much as... BingoBoingo you know that line, "it doesn't profit a man nothing to lose his soul for the whole world... but for Wales ??!"
BingoBoingo: Folk hero nobel of the hill people.
mircea_popescu: why louis antoine and not henri thomas ? LIFE IS SO UNFARE
mircea_popescu: henri thomas, duc de rohan.
mircea_popescu: he wanted to be the duke of rohan.
asciilifeform: j gave the impression of longing for his one troo motherland, france-with-platinum-creditcard-on-expenseaccount