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BingoBoingo starting to wonder if pogo could ever run bitcoind and
a form of p2pool at the same time
wywialm: i'll be going, thanks pete_dushenski for
a nice (even if boring to the audience) discussion
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 19:03:27; ascii_field: holy fuck is this thread
a snore.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i thought it was
a kgb front
wywialm: to francis' defense, he does
a lot more of the pretense of that than actuality of it << that is another good point
mircea_popescu: to francis' defense, he does
a lot more of the pretense of that than actuality of it,
mircea_popescu: anyway, "voice of the people" pope is
a gross misunderstanding of the entire thing already.
mircea_popescu: this is almost exactly what the master of
a harem is, for that matter.
ascii_field: r loads
a lot of DLLs from the executable directory first, so by copying the vpndownloader.exe file from Program Files to
a temporary directory and dropping an appropriately named DLL you can get code execution as SYSTEM.'
ascii_field: 'The fix for this issue seemed to be modifying the file verification process to only allow
a signed file which also has in its version information the original filename of vpndownloader.exe. This, along with the name change makes it clear you only want to execute the VPN Downloader application. However the code doesn’t limit the location of the executable file, so one exploitation vector is DLL planting. The downloade
mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> the notion that britney spears did damage to music might be compared to the idea that Garza did damage to bitcoin << still, i'd pay
a little for it not being possible for britney to exist. and garza idem.
pete_dushenski: wywialm: yes, 'signed statements only', which still doesn't wash in mine eyes, but seems to be
a matter of perspective.
thestringpuller: mod6: seriously he is
a music reverse engineer. He can listen to
a song and write down the chords on
a single listen.
thestringpuller: Showed him
a bunch of bash.bitcoin-assets.com quotes and he was like "is this guy russian?"
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: but this isn't caveman times when women would fuck you based on how awesome of
a hunter you are.
wywialm: i think this is
a good metaphor
wywialm: pete_dushenski, i'm
a little bit familiar with the galileo case, and i wouldn't put it as an example of revision of doctrine
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: when you say from
a family level (which is more decentralized in context to global societies socialism), do you mean immediate family? Dad Mom Borther Sister? Or do you mean
a larger lineage: grandpa, grandma, aunt uncle cousins?
phf: in which case whatever pope says is basically his personal believes as
a famous public figure
phf: doesn't cathoic church has
a deedbot of some sort? i'm more familiar with orthodox system, but presumably they come out every once in
a while to updates for canon and the catechism, "we found the previous belief that 10 angels can fit on
a head of
a needle invalid, and on the account of recent scientific developments in nanotechnology, we are now convinced that the correct number is in fact 17" sort of thing
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 16:14:26; wywialm: then Pope Francis is not
a socialist
thestringpuller: the protohumans eventually die off and what is left is
a human race dedicated to maintaining the machine, in the sense of the zerg protecting the hivemind. Here the machine is the leader not
a man.
thestringpuller: Well lets say the machine was created by protohumans (pre-machine humans), and then as
a result became slaves to the machine
pete_dushenski: you seem to be doing
a very circular and specious job of it :P
thestringpuller: In this scenario I would say all men are
a slave to the machine. Without the machine the species ends.
thestringpuller: lets say we have
a breeding machine that breeds all humans.
thestringpuller: Add some soma and other drugs in the mix and you have robotic people who don't care about wealth but "maintaining" the machine that spawned them. Honestly in this context
a differentiation of male clones would benefit society in the same way the Irkin empire in Invader Zim came to power.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: this'd be too hard to measure and even harder to enforce. honestly,
a sterile male clone army is simpler.
danielpbarron: I met the author of that site, and
a couple of his daughters, one of his sons, and his sister and her son, oh and his mother
danielpbarron: > Paine rejected the teachings of "any church that I know of," including "the Roman church." << me too (with the exception of that one, which I found almost by accident through
a mutual interest in the Ron Paul presidential campaign)
pete_dushenski: "It is not poverty, but prosperity, that needs explaining. Poverty is automatic, but prosperity requires many things – none of which is equally distributed around the world or even within
a given society."
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: "Because in spite of prices being involve," << missing
a letter here
phf: i think there was
a conversation at some point how diff/patch doesn't create empty directories and you have to resort to .keepme hacks, it was suggested that the correct solution is to patch makefile.unix instead, but i don't think that was done
shinohai: I'll try manually adding it. I'm in the habit of deleting object files when
a build fails
wywialm: pete_dushenski, he may try to speak as the voice of the 'people', but it is clear to me that it is way outside of his mandate as
a pope
shinohai: I brought up the subject due to the statement he made that "I am not
a socialist" yet in my limited knowledge of the subject, he has
a lot of socialist ideas.
pete_dushenski: wywialm: in any event, that's
a 'world's tallest midget' competition. the pope is still just
a politician representing way too many people and interests to be effective
pete_dushenski: despite paul's opinion to the contrary, there's always
a trilema reference somewhere
ascii_field: 'In January 2009, USP Lewisburg began
a mission change converting to
a Special Management Unit (SMU) facility. Therefore, the information in this handbook is for the general population inmates only (Cadre Unit).' << this is worth explaining. SMU is
a series of 'special prisons' where folks are held incommunicado. instituted under bush II
ascii_field: 'Confinement in any institution such as Lewisburg is never
a pleasant experience. Every attempt is
pete_dushenski: he thirst for power and possessions knows no limits. In this system, which tends to devour everything which stands in the way of increased profits, whatever is fragile, like the environment, is defenseless before the interests of
a deified market, which become the only rule." << every socialist hashtag wrapped up in
a single paragraph. no points for guessing who wrote.
pete_dushenski: "56. While the earnings of
a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. Consequently, they reject the right of states, charged with vigilance for the common good, to exercise any form of control.
A new tyrann
ascii_field: iirc in usa somewhere there is
a spare, schismatic pope who isn't
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: he's
a vat.-II-compliant pope
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell pope_francis are you too much of
a 'man of the people' for latin now ?
wywialm: to my knowledge, it does not have
a status of an official teaching
wywialm: the catholic teaching on the subject (afaik) is that there should be no redistribution, but that there are obligations to the poor that should be met in
a non-centralistic manner
wywialm: then Pope Francis is not
a socialist
☟︎ pete_dushenski: so expecting francis or any other clergyman of 'the people' to expound the virtues of capitalism or sanity is like expecting
a potato to grow legs and start running marathons
pete_dushenski: unpleasant as I possibly can to anyone who dares to crawl through the tunnel. I will try to the best of my ability to make them regret their decision...I'll try my very best to sexually assault him or her. The tunnel is constructed in such
a way that it gets smaller the closer you get to the project room. The bigger you are, the more difficult it is to comfortably crawl out. And trust me, I have
a lot of secret
pete_dushenski: and vw's hindleg is stuck in
a trap from which is must now chew its way out
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform that'd truly make it
a little shop of horrors!
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 04:55:31; pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278736 << turns out that i was off the mark here. to wit : "Emissions system and fuel economy testing is conducted while
a vehicle is placed on
a dynamometer—think of it as
a two big rollers or
a treadmill—rather than driving on the road. The vehicle has only its driving wheels rolling (the front ones, in the case of VW vehicles). But the rear tires
pete_dushenski: funkenstein_: vw is under investigation for 'studying to the test' atm. i'm sure they'll be slapped with
a big ol' fine by usg and then watch their sales fall by 10-20%
lobbes: you also gotta love how he feels qualified to endorse the 'climate change' scam. smells like
a usg appendage to me
mircea_popescu: anyway, im taking the local devs out for
a breakfast hackathon. bbl.
mircea_popescu: but basically... it never occured to me that in point of fact bitbet's minimum acts as
a tax. and
a lot of other things in here never occured to me. i'm still reeling over the whole pile.
mircea_popescu: basically this might be one of those situations where regulation is
a loser.
mircea_popescu: now it's just 0.01, which means we suck the meaning out of
a cent. if minimum becomes 0.1, we suck the meaning out of ten cents. which may be too much,
shinohai: Top minds of #bitcoin-assets: Is or is not Pope Francis
a socialist?
mircea_popescu: like 1/x -4 is entirely
a different thing from 1/x +4.
mircea_popescu: right because there's
a fundamental difference between equations that come out positive and equations that come out negative.
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 01:36:58; asciilifeform: also usg giveth, usg taketh away.
a 'pharma ceo' has so much as one cent purely by the good graces of hitler - who helpfully keeps penny-
a-pill indian generics mostly out of u.s. market
mircea_popescu: anyway. it just amused me as
a case of "bug shaped man confused that the future doesn't seem to belong to him."
shinohai: I am seeing
a correlation here though. You are practically giving away btc to artists that are doing it anyway, but most are too lazy to open
a webchat and come to irc.
shinohai: Think what could have happened for
a few of them with just
a little research. Mighta found
a way to invest said bitcoin into many times that by now :/
mircea_popescu: it would seem the "popular mechanics" interpretation of the internet in the common mind (which is what everyone no matter how brilliant in selected fields reverts to anwyay, in
a process we call "the memory hole effect") is something like "the internet is an implementation of god - and
a god that cares at that".
shinohai: Still the same, casting
a lot but no bites :/
mircea_popescu: "Getting the Good Authority In the old days, competition kept Authorities in line. For example, in The Merchant of Venice, Shylock is trying to get
a contract enforced by an Authority:" << heh, look at that.
assbot: The woes of Altcoin, or why there is no such thing as "cryptocurrencies" on Trilema -
A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1j8LgNl )
mircea_popescu: "Ultimately, as Bitcoin takes over the internet, all non-Bitcoin projects (of any kind) will be treated with the ridicule afforded
a US resident who tries to pay for his milk with Japanese yen. Eventually, interest in using
a non-Bitcoin will fall to zero. Altcoins, even somehow-useful ones, don’t have
a future." << and the proper link for this is, of course,
http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-i mircea_popescu: anyway, the amusing thing if one actually reads the above linked thing is that the proponent of truthcoin objects that ethereum bets won't work because they're not bitbet. which is
a correct point, but leaves him in the lurch.
mircea_popescu: what if hollywood never existed altogether and i wouldn't have to explain to sane people from the future why the fuck exactly is it that every woman in every film has
a permanently affixed bedspread righ above her tits for some reason ?
mircea_popescu: and the "MtGox-failure,
a failure that itself resulted in the loss of 6% of the circulating Bitcoin money supply." verbiage is particularly ill advised. the bitcoin mtgox lost never circulated for the most part, in that they were imaginary.