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mp_en_viaje: it's all in the logs, not going anywheres anyway
mp_en_viaje: none of this needs to take up cycles nao
asciilifeform: BB will correct me if i'm wrong on this pt. ☟︎
asciilifeform: was to be sold, when replacement delivered.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: the primary smg machine is still owned by smg.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941464 << was it snsa owned a machine and smg another one, and renting a 3rd ? i thought we had mostly sold all iron to piz, will have to look through all these.
asciilifeform: ( the other connection, naturally, is -- per the snowden dox -- usg never throws away botnet, when finds, but uses always . )
asciilifeform: at any rate, for our purposes afaik dun matter what kinda botnet. nor have i a connection to draw from that point to what we've got. so will leave subj alone for nao.
asciilifeform: the only step to 'p2p'ism that has become moar common, is the use of 'randomly generated domain using time of day where to look for command' ('dga') but even this not universal.
mp_en_viaje: im talking 2019, post bitcoin-ransoms, post ddos-for-hire etc.
mp_en_viaje: but that is a decade ago
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i also had trouble believing, before working as pro exterminator for these in '12-15. (possible that sumthing has changed since, but from what i presently know -- has not.)
mp_en_viaje: i have trouble believing/.
asciilifeform: mno. the current crop.
mp_en_viaje: maybe "people" who key in stuff they read on cca 2002 edition of slashdot /
asciilifeform: and i won't dismiss out of hand, people continue (why? dunno) to make pyramidally-shaped botnets.
mp_en_viaje: the confiscated machines. what, is the idea they cc'd the whole thing ?
mp_en_viaje: a ty
mp_en_viaje: i recall at least one instance where trilema was down and my defense of not giving a shit for a week or so came remarkably cheap to me.
asciilifeform: where you can carry on to sit and notgiveashit.
asciilifeform: that ddos of almost arbitrary size is comparatively cheap, vs the defense.
asciilifeform: point is that there's no actual limit to these
asciilifeform: it is impossible, from the shit drippings coming from latech, to say
mp_en_viaje: is the idea pizarro boxes were hit with 1tb/s for a while ?
asciilifeform: lesse whether mp_en_viaje still holds this pos, when there's >1 tmsr box in that moldavia and it gets 1tb/s sustained.
mp_en_viaje: so thousands, 8, 0 ? wtf set of data is this.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, it's deeply unlikely, seeing how... by the same logic your fuckbot was also targetted by same net.
mp_en_viaje: "i went to herpetologist for my snake and my cousin went to hematologist for her blood, and my snake's tooth count came way smaller than her platelets. wtf medicine is a scam"
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it's unproven, but imho not baseless, theory, that both were targeted using same net
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 15:40:45 BingoBoingo: Especially when diana_coman's moldavian ISP offered .pcap showing 8 IPs while Oscar said thousands.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941458 << it's incomprehensible to me why you compare these two as such. it almost reads as if you imagine some dude in moldavia somehow captured packets on YOUR interface in uruguay at diana's request and then misrepresented it to her as her own. wtf ?!
mp_en_viaje: anyway, to set a matter of record straight : it is not ~necessarily~ the case oscar is lying re "dedicado"->centurylink. that's why man on the ground / contacts beats remote in these things. there's half a dozen way the peering data can be fudged into unreliability
asciilifeform: old man's heart ticks until not.
asciilifeform: this applies to errything.
mp_en_viaje: understand the weakness in these "still be there" : a month ago, you were complaining pizarro pipe is too stable. these things are always fine until not anymore, and never before.
asciilifeform: but this was a dud.
asciilifeform: ( never went even as far as asciilifeform getting through door, cuz landed in a snake pit of 'maximilianos' each of whom claimed 'oh noez this dc is nao owned by X' for 3 circling values of x )
mp_en_viaje: and how much for the pipe ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 14:34:01 BingoBoingo: They were pressed several times on the BGP question and Antel's listing as their major peer. They denied Antel and instead repeatedly claimed they hired our pipe out to "Dedicado" (Local firm mostly sells radio point to point IP connections in areas without Antel) and that Dedicado's upsteam CENTURYLINK!!! was not being very helpful in responding to Dedicado or their requests. They declared "Century Link is the Bi
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:49:37 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941400 << top keks of all time, go to uruguay to "non-nato", end up plugged into ~equiv of sysco.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941653 << funnily , 1 of the places asciilifeform wanted to try parking dulap in '17 , was a (largely empty) telco exchange 2km from house. reputedly, gives a locking rebar cage for <1.5k/m . and in the heart of the beast. the thing, i suspect if had done this, it'd still be there, working..
BingoBoingo: Aite, back to the dungeon.
BingoBoingo: Plugs into exhaust tube
mp_en_viaje: you know, the WARMERS
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i dun recall seeing arrowslits reserved for konsoomer window ac in there << Consumer standup portable A/C
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 14:10:13 asciilifeform: and ftr asciilifeform suspects that this story will end with mp_en_viaje asking asciilifeform to hand in his bicord. wat good is an admiral w/out a fleet ? like miklos horthy ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 15:39:30 asciilifeform: ( after he's done w/ the current session of 'both of you have arse for a head and i oughta have thrown you into sea like two-headed kittens long ago' but expect will have what to add )
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941455 << i dunno why this is so dramatique all the time. not like we didn't know you two have no fucking clue what you're doing going in.
asciilifeform: i dun recall seeing arrowslits reserved for konsoomer window ac in there
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It looks like they exhausted to the parking garage
mp_en_viaje: hit it then.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: At this point I don't see why not.
asciilifeform: straight back into the hall ?!
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:51:46 BingoBoingo: asciiilifeform: The packaged FUCKGOATS are out of the cage. They managed to restore air conditioning though a few consumer model personal air conditioners were chained together in a gang occupying a portion of the front hallway. The normal airconditioners were indeed operational.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941658 << i was aboutta ask !! holyshit, where did they put the hot exhaust ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I would like to wait for customer instructions on how they would like their drives handled before pulling everything.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 15:38:37 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Last night the machines were cool and accessible locally on the switch. Today they are probably still hot and angry.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941454 << the ganged ac thing was a lulzy epic story
asciilifeform: drives imho oughta be evacuated (1st to BingoBoingo's flat, then, at option of customers, fedex) prior to and posted separately from machines per se.
BingoBoingo: Will label everything I take out.
asciilifeform: (dun fughet to label'em)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: shut down dulap & pocket the drives.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I know. Once things are collected I will need a working ftp server somewhere to park customer data GPG tarballs.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to plug a ssd into dulap when yer done. grab in the morning. ( would like a fresh copy if possible )
mp_en_viaje: why limited ? you could indicate which local houses to burn down from the flamethrowing helisub.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lemme know if you need helping hand (tho will be limited in what i can do w/out a working pipe straight to machines.)
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: At this hour no one. I will go and grab backups.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the stock of spare ssds should suffice to grab errything.
mp_en_viaje: from your story everyone too busy doing the plumbing with own hands.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, who the fuck's gonna notice, receptionist girly ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: go then, to backup.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mp_en_viaje: any reason not to physically evacuate all of the iron stock, and not simply back up ? << Because it tips the hand. If you want to litigate...
mp_en_viaje: yes. and you think this is a reason to not do it ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: piz aint a tea&lemons provider, customers RESPONSIBLE FOR OWN BACKUPS
mp_en_viaje: are you deliberately thick or just naturally ?
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Aite, tonight I will grab user data and databases off of the shared server.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo anything i'm missing on this score ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo seems already bought the wheelbarrow.
asciilifeform: backups that is
mp_en_viaje: as thing stand i can't think of one.
mp_en_viaje: do you have some offsite backup scheme in place, asks mp, fully dreading the obvious "um...." answer.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: any reason not to physically evacuate all of the iron stock, and not simply back up ?
asciilifeform: which they owe .
mp_en_viaje: because if tomorrow you also can't get into cage, and anyone's not got bakcups, you'll have a much worse problem.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not to mention iirc there was a security deposit
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Last bolus went to them early september
mp_en_viaje: possibly most important thing right now is to image all customer data.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: without a 'we terminated yer contract as of thursday' to go with it, tho
mp_en_viaje: seems to me your ips are in fact closed down.
asciilifeform: if they simply closed down, would then match this description. but instead started delivering milk that's 50% baccilae
mp_en_viaje: all sort & manner of tards keep trying this tack, resulting in "anti-gentrification" and assorted bla bla, but it is a seed born dead.
mp_en_viaje: but in principle this is not actionable, in any practical case not very far, where "i bought milk each day from milk shop" "And ?" "now it wants to sell out, become dildo shop" "so ?" "so wherre do i get my milk ?".
mp_en_viaje: or for any other reason -- dead horse will trot no miles.
mp_en_viaje: or because whatever, owner had aneurysm, looted corp payroll and ran off to hooklandia
mp_en_viaje: either because indeed, some ustard bought them out, thinking to cut down 90% of expense ie personnel and keep 50% of income by moving away from dc business to netflix cache
mp_en_viaje: it doesn't seem, taking BingoBoingo 's description at face value, that pressure's likely to deliver much.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, the reason i mentioned that yest was as a pressure tactic, not as a revenue generator.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there's a lulzy era1 thread where asciilifeform had to, for salt mine reasons, lease a bank box, and read the contract..
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I am familiar with that as well.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, people who drink to death rarely plan to.