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trinque: I'm saying one setting for "serve blocks to others" and another for which nodes to connect to
asciilifeform: trinque: i don't have ANYTHING -connect'ed
asciilifeform: i was loathe to implement hardcoded noble-peer by ip, because hitler can put whatever he wants at that ip, from the perspective of my box
shinohai: I was about to say ... ive been using -connect only for weeks
asciilifeform: guess this means i'ma have to set up vpn between the nodez
shinohai: I still have 0 connections on both my nodes
asciilifeform: 'getinfo' call i made this morning ~STILL~ waiting
mircea_popescu: to celebrate new trilema header, i give you... http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/letscallhershm.jpg
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 21:50:14; ascii_field: danielpbarron: he was a relatively early 'computer sucks and must be rebuilt' person. sadly, i've no idea what he is up to these days.
ascii_field: i can confirm, ~proper~ toilets have been rare and collectible in usaschwitz, since '90s
mod6: that would be the way to do it as I said earlier. but not sure if that's really feasable.
ascii_field: but for the record i think this 'cram all in one file' thing is braindamaged.
mod6: ok so another question i have about the deedbot way.. would be: if we submit a patch to deedbot, how do we tie a message to that same submission? say we wanna be like "Hey, this thing is neat!" Will it need to reference anothe deedbot submission or does the patch have to come after our statment in the clearsigned message?
mod6: <+jurov> mod6 decrypt on *clearsigned* file << this indeed works. created file A.txt. copied A.txt to B.txt and subtracted some lines. created a unified diff of both. clearsigned the diff -- which is mutilated for escaped hyphens. upon `gpg --decrypt` of the clearsigned output patch file, i get the same hash as the pre-clearsigned hash file.
mircea_popescu: i knew this was a tooling problem mostly. pretty much 99% of all that's needed is already here.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 ^ give that a long think. << i like this idea with the wot graph + source patches as a tree next to it so relations can be easily seen & drilled into.
ascii_field: (when i said 'graph walker' earlier today)
ascii_field: this is precisely what i had in mind, aha
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: to be clear, that is precisely what i had in mind when suggested the hash embed thing
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 19:20:55; mod6: so before I say "yup, that's it, that's the thing that gets us to where we want to be", i want to fully understand what I'm agreeing to use.
ascii_field: and i was trying to explain that this is deeply broken
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 19:20:55; mod6: so before I say "yup, that's it, that's the thing that gets us to where we want to be", i want to fully understand what I'm agreeing to use.
mod6: ah, encrypt/decrypt, but we want clearsign or am i misunderstanding this?
jurov: as with xorg buffer, i'm curious, will see if anyone submits something with valid sig that gpg fails to unescape.
mircea_popescu: i just tried this... it doesn't mutilate on encrypt/decrypt
mod6: i guess for me thats the one big thing, we can't have any mutilation of the patch files. or we'll just find ourselves banging our heads all the time.
mircea_popescu: i have no objections to this
mircea_popescu: but i guess the consensus is pointing towards, ml gets restated with antecedents, trinque writes a grapher for it all ? ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 18:55:16; mod6: now, it might be that I'm not exactly understanding what the proceedure for submitting to deed bot would be. but if clearsigned .patch files, that can not work.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225956 << maybe i've nbot given consideration enough time, but it seems to me that if something can not be made into a text file, that something can't be part of a computer program. the making/demaking necessarily can be automated. << i didn't understand that this problem could be side-stepped with gpg --decrypt ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if it stays as a ml, becomes a wiki, somehow otherwise including deedbot or not changes i do not care per se
mircea_popescu: well i don't feel equal to the task of restating the whole conversation as ongoing for past weeks / peaked today. i'll just say : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225521 ☝︎
ascii_field: they're all entirely readable. what am i missing ?
ascii_field: but reflecting on the fact that i don't always get 'out' of paste buffer what comes 'in'.
jurov: i do have locale set
jurov: cuz i never noticed in 10 or so years married to xfree86/xorg
ascii_field: but i promise to post a sample next time it pops up
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 21:32:44; ascii_field: and also wat, i gotta recompile xorg for paste buffer to behave sanely?
mircea_popescu: a magical distillate whereby i can read it and programs don't rape it. binartytext.
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 18:55:16; mod6: now, it might be that I'm not exactly understanding what the proceedure for submitting to deed bot would be. but if clearsigned .patch files, that can not work.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225956 << maybe i've nbot given consideration enough time, but it seems to me that if something can not be made into a text file, that something can't be part of a computer program. the making/demaking necessarily can be automated. ☝︎
ascii_field: i'll switch to ebcdc first.
mircea_popescu: molci i susi.
ascii_field: and also wat, i gotta recompile xorg for paste buffer to behave sanely? ☟︎
ascii_field: custom as in opening up rusted shut things that i haven't adjusted for many years
ascii_field: i don't see why i oughta custom gpg, custom squirrelmail, custom shoelaces
ascii_field: jurov: i use squirrelmail, and - afaik - mutilatory
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 18:54:25; mod6: if our idea is to clearsign patches and then submit them to deedbot, i urge you all to review this email and consider why that doesn't work:
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-july-2015-statement/ << more or less fixed, i guess
mircea_popescu: i HATE not being able to read shit.
shinohai: What potential rape may look like: https://i.imgur.com/LcKy6eQ.jpg
mircea_popescu: mail yes, but i hope to see it disused eventually. gpg does not ? afaik ?
ascii_field: 'i meant what i said, and i said what i meant, a walrus is certain a hundred percent'. go, rape, but that wasn't what i signed wazzit.
ascii_field: hence why i insist that a turdatron must support 'binaries'
mircea_popescu: well calling it "binary" doesn't protect it you know, just confuses me. but i see what you mean.
mircea_popescu: maybe i had an aneurism or something.
mircea_popescu: i dun follow
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 17:15:51; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225798 << how do i embed ~unmutilatable~ binaries in deedbot? uuencode ?!!!
shinohai: I still have my childhood Tandy
mod6: i had a neighbor once who showed me his amiga. never stopped raving about it.
shinohai: I refuse to buy a Windows box just to play a game.
ascii_field: i'd sooner port to 'amiga'
shinohai: I spent all day yesterday getting slapped by Windows users asking questions about gaming.
shinohai: nw, vm building was a bit slow but I chalk it up to Ubuntu bloat.
BingoBoingo: I'll give it a try
mircea_popescu: hey, i'd be all for a special "all open" client if you feel like doing this
mircea_popescu: honestly i don't even recall how or why cg is in there. mebbe chetty can shed a light
ascii_field: aha, this is why i haven't tried it yet personally
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: When I get time though I'll try chopping Eulora to remove the parts that depend on it and see if it works
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << how aboot i buy you a vidcard ? Hard to stick in portable machine. Also problem isn't machine. Problem is cg isn't available as source or for OpenBDSM
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 08:27:03; BingoBoingo: I jsut need to find a way to build it without Nvidia cg toolkit.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225462 << how aboot i buy you a vidcard ? ☝︎
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: i still don't get it, why was it necessary to shit in a bath tub ?
mircea_popescu: yeah i guess so mike_c
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Only so many nuggets I can do when qntra under DDoS
mike_c: I think mpex method is perhaps best method. Just show the text and link to verifiable text blob.
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/5BPo3BK.jpg
mike_c: i concur, still doesn't verify. overflow-x did make the scrollbar appear all the way at bottom, still sucks. white-space: pre-wrap also works, and makes the line breaks look even worse, but content is at least all visible.
mike_c: if you throw it up with the pre I can play with it and give you good css?
mircea_popescu: can i plox has usable format ty
trinque: mircea_popescu: that one I said, if you want a scrollbar
mircea_popescu: i suppose i could add a style markup to the pre tag.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field it's one or the other it seems. either i <pre> it which makes it verify, but then linmes are fixed length. or else iu don't, which lets you read it, but ascii gets fucked.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225448 << get out of here. back in 2012 i was in a chan just like this one (or so it seemed), surrounded by idiots who blessfully got pushed out of bitcoiun by their own mentally stunted disability, but who at the time BELIEVED. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: at least it wasn't built with the ground up with getting laid in mind, so i guess there is that.
mircea_popescu: i made italian slavegirl read d.c. and english slavegirl read shakespeare not the other way around. why not ? works either way after all, by definition.
mircea_popescu: i'm not proposing it be forbidden or anything. just, i give localised first choice.
mircea_popescu: and yes, i did.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1226167 << i personally prefer landau ☝︎
shinohai: Once I do figure out this necromancy, I am sure I will kick myself for the next 2-3 years for failing to see it.
ascii_field: i guess this is one more thing i will have to post.
shinohai: I need to see someone's build log that doesn't mind sharing, I'm sire it will click what I'm not changing.
shinohai: binary still doesn't run on mah pogo so I did something wrong.
shinohai: I'm still not at a level where I can cross-compile. So I have a rather useless box atm.
shinohai: I'm none too thrilled with my foray into arm since bitcoin
mircea_popescu: actually i have nfi why knuth's book isn't the basis of cs in the us.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how they dereference it.
mircea_popescu: he may be argued with it, but so far without exception the "you'll come to agree, because you're smart and i'm right" controlled to date.
mircea_popescu: i'm a fan of knuth generally.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225245 << you're sounding like you expect this to be exceptional ? how the fuck often do i rebuild anything! what's more often than "once per machinbe" ? on ce per season ? recompile every election november ? once per pair of underwear ? ☝︎