asciilifeform: the entire subject, of software as a cultural product, as opposed to a disembodied thing floating unanchored in possibility-space, is discussed ~nowhere else.
asciilifeform: contemplated strictly here. and nowhere else. because, while various folks made noises about 'throw away openssl', 100% of heathens are dead-set on re-creating the very same culture that resulted in it.
asciilifeform: every maggot in every pile of festering offal has 'hope'.
asciilifeform: fella showed up here, was offered the light, vanished.
asciilifeform: and with 'open source software' stack as a culture.
asciilifeform: and for quite fundamental reasons, having to do with the C machine
asciilifeform: it is an ancient idea, and not useless, but does absolutely nothing vs protocol-level holes, which are pestilential in 'existing IM clients', as is i think known to ~everyone
asciilifeform: the airgap thing is a cargo cult. sorta like proposing to prevent ALL disease by washing hands.
asciilifeform: 'existing IM clients' 'open source software' 'free hardware'
asciilifeform: i will point with finger then: '...messaging system that operates on top of existing IM clients. The free and open source software is used in conjunction with free hardware...'
asciilifeform: 'TFC-CEV is a high assurance encrypted messaging system that operates on top of existing IM clients. The free and open source software is used in conjunction with free hardware to protect users from passive eavesdropping, active MITM attacks and remote CNE practised by organized crime and state-level adversaries.'
asciilifeform: let's pick on one particular maqpism:
asciilifeform: Framedragger: pgp is a sad, duct-tape-laden thing, as discussed on plenty of occasions in the logz. but the proliferation of psyop 'alternatives' casts it in a surprisingly good light.
asciilifeform: srsly, 'whatsapp' ?! i will give half a fuck about 'whatsapp' right after i go to shanghai and learn the best ways of cooking gutter oil.☟︎
asciilifeform: this is very much not my impression of linked item though.
asciilifeform: this is precisely the definitional snore.
asciilifeform: they really ought to make it as a bipartite thing
asciilifeform: goes off, as ~everyone probably knows by now, on its own, when it feels like it, but this is a minor detail to room temperature iq 'l33337 jihad d00dz'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i neither agree nor disagree, i did not know for a fact whether the fella on the bus was 'math bum' or not. simply that the thought came to me, 'erdos'
asciilifeform: interestingly, i used to encounter regularly bums in (threadbare) nice suits
asciilifeform: various poor black folk, did, i saw alive.
asciilifeform: hey, when i worked at the godforsaken shithole with the homomorphic crud, nearby there was a furniture shop where you could buy a $30 lamp on layaway.
asciilifeform: even the original toft never figured out how to get a live one in, and keep it alive
asciilifeform: anyway the original incident was mighty lulzy, and quite reminiscent of modern scamatronics, and produced a great many caricatures, songs, etc at the time
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was hoping, but.. nope. SCAM