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trinque: maybe when I win at gentoo rpg
ben_vulpes: i have no idea, disregard
ben_vulpes: how then to hold territory i guess is a question
ben_vulpes: i just recall faint intimations that it wasn't quite the focus as it is in eve or wow ☟︎
danielpbarron: i'm pretty sure there's going to also be PvP
ben_vulpes: if i recall the con3-versations on the topic, pve's the real game
danielpbarron: in the future i imagine there will be epic battles between guilds or whatever, and in that case the 3d world will be necessary
danielpbarron: but at the moment, most of the things I do, do not require seeing the 3d world
danielpbarron: i play the video version; it's not so bad
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> twould please him no end to see test reports coming in from that platform << certainly let me know how it goes. yeah, might have issues with rotor on there. I'm still sync'ing my obsd bitcoind build (patched up through -verifyall).
trinque: I am doing more or less what's described there
trinque: if I'm taking this on I'm hesitant to use someone else's tool
ben_vulpes: i think you misunderstand the question.
ben_vulpes: i imagined a path the other night where chetty actually stopped maintaining her owhn client ☟︎
gernika: Incidentally I spent about 1hr attempting to build rotor on OpenBSD - got buried in tiny differences between bsd/linux.
trinque: parted doesn't even work right; I just bitched about it in #parted
ben_vulpes: i still maintain hope that libressl can be used too
gernika: Because I won't be able to build it "deterministically" without rotor. Was my thinking.
gernika: General question - is there value in continuing to test stator, and future versions of it, on OpenBSD? Or should I abandon that and just test on Gentoo from now on? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i'll have to cook up a test case or so
ascii_field: ergo is a complete solution to the antecedent-embedding diff which i suggested to mircea_popescu earlier this week.
ben_vulpes: i know, just ribbing
ben_vulpes: plus i feel thooper thtupid asking all of the "how ams" questions i had about eulora last time
ben_vulpes: i'd not mind learning a bit more about the thing so's i can have some fun automating it ☟︎
danielpbarron: i guess it's supposed to explore and build the tiny/small claims as it goes
ben_vulpes: i musta missed the memo on eulora being an okay casual play
ascii_field: i did too. a 'stratasys' was sold for a couplea hundy at my university's surplus shop
punkman: but I know plenty of golden-toilet in that area
punkman: I've touched them
trinque: well, I agree
trinque: I will base this cd on the amd64-nomultilib guide unless there are objections
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 14:30:12; mircea_popescu: and i know this can be done because it's how fucking viruses work.
mircea_popescu: not least of all because i only haver so many btc.
trinque: I'll hack on this over the weekend
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 13:13:30; mircea_popescu: <n6> Um, I'm in way over my head and going on 17 hours of gentoo << take your picture with your sad face next to a screen with gentoo failing on it, i'll pay you 0.1 BTC. just to prove a point.
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 14:28:09; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's what i want to accomplish, as a goal : i want to be able to put up a linux system, then go curl http://trilema.com/autobitcoin.sh | gpg -verify > autobitcoin.sh. and then run that autobitcoin.sh, which auto-follows the changes of people i have selected for this task, builds them and runs them
trinque: certainly; I've got scripts around building these disk images already
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1228964 << cool, I'm taking this on then. ☝︎
King_Rex: i will do so soon
King_Rex: i am kicking myself for not joing the wot in '11
shinohai: I don't think that guy coud get *any* project off the ground. Darkwallet is a fail for sure.
punkman: I like how "fall flat" means losing 10s of millions of bezzlars
mircea_popescu: the game is very deeply meta atm, from what i've seen
mircea_popescu: well if it doesn't i wanna hear about it.
mike_c: hopefully Eulora will accomodate me - someone who is perfectly happy with -ev as long as I'm having fun. This should help supply the people who are more interested in the money.
mircea_popescu: on the other hand yesterday i bought ~10mn worth of thorns.
mike_c: I'm not so worried about +ev though. I already have a job.
mircea_popescu: what doesn't work is the 'i made a level in five minutes so i'll make 500 levels in 20 hours' linear thing from grinder mmorpgs.
mike_c: I'll start poking again and see if danielpbarron can make use of me. He seems to be king of the land :)
mike_c: I got some of my own skills exploring
mike_c: I got some lil bits of nothing
mircea_popescu: did i ever get you a starter package ?
mike_c: Hm. Ok, well, then I will start aiming my 30-45 daily mins of play at Eulora then.
mike_c: It seems like I would love it like I love Total War - If I have 20 hours a week to play it would be awesome.
mike_c: A good question. Short answer - yes. Long answer, I wonder if Eulora in its current state is good for a casual/short-on-time gamer.
mircea_popescu: mike_c btw, am i ever gonna see you in game ? ?!?! ?!? ?!? !???
mike_c: Just a contrarian. I have no idea if it's headed to 80 or 40.
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 06:38:12; BingoBoingo: *All lines tonight were "acting" per http://trilema.com/the-crime-of-being-american * Fuck it. Into the ditch with this bitch I'll deal with it in the morning
ben_vulpes: anyways, i'm off to coffee, breakfast, fire a girl, do the work she was supposed to do, and then the burbs for a sales meeting
asciilifeform: why shouldn't i be able to use arbitrary lengths of tape.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't exactly know how they'd do a better job
asciilifeform: speaking of tape, i've always lamented that no one sells a reel-to-reel for modern pc
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a) i don't know any formats and b) i stopped expecting things to behave in any particular way when i realized that "tar" is "tape archive"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes will learn soon enough what i meant.
asciilifeform: just when i though i'd have to write a mod for it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah i was impressed.
ben_vulpes: actually i have!
ben_vulpes: ofc it makes sense that i'd have to fire up wireshark on this thing eventually
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't know what i want - this whole project is an endless barrel of 'wtf'
ben_vulpes: i am unsurprised to learn that software does not produce human parseable output at the command line
mircea_popescu: “Why should I only get this handout only the months that I attend school?” Explaining that he needs money for going out with his friends and buying clothes all year round, the young author concluded: “I don’t have anything against working. But if the government doesn’t make sure that I have a job, it is their responsibility to pay me the handouts all year around”.
asciilifeform: i mean, if for human consumption
ben_vulpes: i took a brief hack at figuring out how to parse pcap dumps, but not very successfully
ben_vulpes: i plan to take a hammer to the coracle's blockchain soon, would like to know if you see anything interesting in it
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i finally came up with rough english ver.: 'freeload'
ben_vulpes: i lack the cultural contex to appreciate "тунеядство" here
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and it cannot be said that i do not believe in a 'software canon.' just that very few folks have heard of it, just as j. s. bach's music did not play for two centuries at one point. e.g., mccarthy's 'lisp 1.5'; weizenbaum's 'eliza'; ... many others
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes there's no story. i dun trust him, an' now you know i don't.
asciilifeform: i despise the despicable
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if he respects the scholar and despises the whore^H^H^H^H i mean programmer ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i finally left when he started talking about fuzzing the robocorps
ben_vulpes: i'm not arguing the point, i just don't see the point of engaging on 'formalizing the whole legal system' with a guy who generates xml from erb templates and thinks this is a good idea
ben_vulpes: why the shit do i want to listen to the asshole responsible for the broswer about how software is going to eat law?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> why the everloving fuck would i want a car with better hidden failure modes from the creators of the car that sucked. << i was recently at a pitch from legaleze.io wherein the guy who runs the formdump site in question lionized marc andresen, and then displayed a pmarca tweet congratulating him for saying something 'grand' about 'software eating law'
mircea_popescu: i guess this is to some degree true. war changes to favour offensive or defensive in a cycle. there's an excelent scene in der untergang, where a veteran field officer surveying the killing zone through stereoscopic periscope sees a bunch of green vulksstrums and yells for them to get the very fuck out of there already!
ben_vulpes: probably, but now i can't find the line in the logz
mircea_popescu: i always wondered if any star trek fans ever wondered what happens to the spaceship once saying "shields up!!" "shoot lasers!!" etc stops returning "enemy destroyed"
mircea_popescu: and, i might add, symptomatically, for the perspectives of being a libertard, the newly branded ustardian puritan.
mircea_popescu: and i am still reeling over how imbecillic philg got over the years srsly.
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/DEeFKyJ.png
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i use an antique lynx or an opera from
mircea_popescu: why the everloving fuck would i want a car with better hidden failure modes from the creators of the car that sucked.
mircea_popescu: consumer culture, that's it. "the car you sold me sucked, i want you to give me another one"
mircea_popescu: how come. i wish to know this. HOW THE FUCK COME!
chetty: <mircea_popescu> i actually think its curve-based. women just have better aesthetics.// thats a male point of view, I prefer male aesthetics myself
mircea_popescu: i actually think its curve-based. women just have better aesthetics.
mircea_popescu: i don't think it's reproduction based.
mircea_popescu: i know pretty much everyone here is very down on the whole concept, and perhaps you're right. but in point of fact, that thinking is at least in part supported by refusal to consider the plain fact that THERE IS NOTHING USEFUL FOR MOST WOMEN TO DO.
mircea_popescu: it's one of the precursors. i saw that and i went "fucking hell, pipes. again. the solution."
mircea_popescu: may i grow up into an adult as a personal process and in my own terms ? huh ? HUH ???