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asciilifeform: mod6: i think you already have this ?

pete_dushenski: hehe i'm having fun !

mod6: I can not wait until we get past all of this.

asciilifeform: i also appreciated. how else would we have learned that i am the last one alive with a sane linux install, for instance.

mod6: I appreciate you trying to build it.

mod6: However, I have seen that on Ubuntu & Debian if you build boost without libboost-python-dev boost will complain -- it will still compile, but it'll complain. it complains less with the python errors if it has that and the libbost-python-dev dependentcies installed.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: if you're up to it, try building, i'll walk you through it while i'm awake

pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i know you wrote rotor for a reason, of this there is little doubt, but believe it or not, your instructions aren't dumbed down enough for me

asciilifeform: i STILL don't understand why just about everybody insists on building stator. ☟︎

asciilifeform: yes, i could sit down and debug this

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i wrote rotor for a reason

phf: ag3nt_zer0: raw didn't pen principia, that's just a persistent misconception, in FACT it was revealed to trinque in its complete form by the divine mother HERSELF (hail eris!) during some of his particularly strong ACID trips (10 strip, they said it was weak, so he took 6, damn, man, i'm seeing things ain't even come up yet), at which point he traveled back in TIME to spread the good word to the honest people of california. this and much mo

pete_dushenski: seriously all i did was install os and follow steps outlined in http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000140.html

pete_dushenski: but i'm not a doctor.

ben_vulpes: aha, yes, i know precisely how i hosed this

phf: ben_vulpes: wait, can you please check your log bundle. i'm getting diff identical folders from the first one i get and the updated one

phf: come to think of it i should probably test that it fails without the flag but with bullet present. i'll spin that up now..

phf: ben_vulpes: so it looks from the log like it's still picking up bullet from somewhere. i updated the repo, so now there's an explicit --without-bullet in the script, if you do brew update and rerun. i tested it by installing bullet and then doing a cs build

ag3nt_zer0: ben_vulpes yes naiveté thanks ... i'll have to tell you my spelling bee story later heh

ben_vulpes: <ag3nt_zer0> well thats what i meant about the political naivity naivte, you mean

mats: I've never had shark before

cazalla: this is probably the best/worst one i've seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpuFoid8J_Q

trinque: I'd rather get sawed in half

funkenstein_: one does not need a full manual to learn to tweek a few nobs I hope? :D

trinque: funkenstein_: I have; entertaining, though yet again, I question any claims around having a system for consciousness

assbot: Logged on 08-08-2015 17:34:56; phf: well, you're not experiencing it directly, and it seems palpable here, in the real world. like i went to a beach a few weeks ago in americatown (ocean city, md) and the vibes are just nasty. sluggish girls with stooped shoulders avoiding any sort of eye contact or making nasty faces at you if you linger on them too long

trinque: whereas I hear people try to link the two all the time

trinque: you can reach different conclusions here, I think

trinque: sure I could say in some particular context you could model an aspect of my behavior

shinohai: We live in a simulation. I suspect mircea_popescu is funding it.

trinque: I am particuarly skeptical of simple models of consciousness

trinque: forgive me, but I see a lot of this stuff as a sort of post-christian wankfest

ag3nt_zer0: funkenstein: yeah maybe i am mistaken but i recall that he penned the principia discordia

ag3nt_zer0: the earth will shake... the first one... i had a great time reading

funkenstein_: i didn't know robert anton wilson had something to do with the subgenius

funkenstein_: i enjoy some trash scifi from time to time

ag3nt_zer0: now when i read some of that stuff it seems only good for a certain stage

ag3nt_zer0: i usd to

ag3nt_zer0: i did that damn "visualize a quarter" experiment for a couple weeks and whne i finally found one, it was glued to the pavement ☟︎

funkenstein_: i don' t think so?

ag3nt_zer0: yeah thats why I just got so disgusted with that side of things and those types of people

trinque: that's what I mean about binary thinking.

trinque: never after a trip was I moved to join hands and sing

trinque: I think that's just hippy nonsense

trinque: I've done piles of psychedelics

ag3nt_zer0: well thats what i meant about the political naivity

ag3nt_zer0: trinque: yeah I think he was just mistrustful of gvmt power in general

ag3nt_zer0: these days I am certain he wouldnt

ag3nt_zer0: its contextual but I think he considered himself on "that side" if any side

ag3nt_zer0: here is where i remember that from

trinque: but otherwise I don't remember a specific mention of his political beliefs, aside from seeing it all as bullshit

ag3nt_zer0: but i often think he might have had a naivety about the political spectrum

shinohai: funkenstein_: I will rate you for your help earlier, your feedback helped me fix this shit.

ag3nt_zer0: i wonder what he would have to say about the left today...

ag3nt_zer0: funkenstein: tragic loss man... that's the "left" i used to love

funkenstein_: ag3nt_zer0, Bill Hicks +1 thx, i skip the others ;)

ag3nt_zer0: he learned from the best i think

cazalla: i am sure you will be keen to see this movie too ag3nt_zer0 !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S8HVoWm9ec

shinohai: I'd get dirty w/ Caitlyn for 5 BTC

assbot: Caitlyn Jenner Struggles Wearing a Swimsuit - I Am Cait NEW Video - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DysAQa )

ag3nt_zer0: haha yeah... frontier launch i guess its called

ag3nt_zer0: so i got this meetup notice that there are some etherium frontier launch parties this weekend here in the Gay Area... one is a dress-up rainbows and unicorns party...

ag3nt_zer0: it must be a sign of how low we've sink that I would consider that an upgrade

trinque: I don't expect anything good to come of him except a bitching monster truck rally sponsored by Brawndo

ag3nt_zer0: i assume

ag3nt_zer0: maybe i am getting stupid, but I find it refreshing

trinque: I'm not going to deny that the man has made some money, but neither he nor anyone else has any ideas.

ag3nt_zer0: yeah i guess it is

trinque: I suffered through part of it; in general though, the outcome should by now be largely irrelevant to you.

funkenstein_: well i guess we have illegal plants and illegal numbers.. why not illegal people?

ag3nt_zer0: i want a nigger teleporter

trinque: mircea_popescu: I see your point; if you have power, you're safe wherever you like

trinque: I mean surely merchants are allowed in

mircea_popescu: i don't see how they wouldn't, practically. a drink's five bux in a bar, their monthly budget back home. what exactly would they do, not like they have any skills of any value

funkenstein_: punkman, lol.. with that name I also can't understand how it's not overrun :)

funkenstein_: i can understand not giving somebody soup at the soup line, but walking across a border seems ok to me

shinohai: I feel lucky that the $$$ I paid in pays for my pension as is.

mircea_popescu: but random people... i dun see it.

shinohai: Immigrants: https://i.imgur.com/iyBa76Z.jpg

funkenstein_: re: yes to welcome, i can't tell if she is african or arab

hanbot: i want to make sure i'm reading ml patching guide correctly: any/all patches desired must be 'applied' --before-- compile of reference implementation, yes?

shinohai: Holy shit I feel like a bzillionaire now.

jurov: i'd say alf was ironic

assbot: Logged on 08-08-2015 19:42:03; mircea_popescu: most people are in fact cows and would greatly benefit from making the step up to slavery, but afaik i'm pretty much the only one with that view.

ben_vulpes: 90% of what i do around here is compiling other people's software

mod6: If not, I can do it for you. Just let me know what works, or if you need help.

mod6: trinque: would you be opposed to resubmitting your patch for the rotor to the ML as a attachment with a detached sig? I have a list of concise steps that is basically a simple script to do all of the steps to build rotor/static-deterministic-stator just need to get that piece into place. that's the only manual step at this point.

mircea_popescu: most people are in fact cows and would greatly benefit from making the step up to slavery, but afaik i'm pretty much the only one with that view. ☟︎

danielpbarron: i think it's perverted to "preserve the innocence" of kids like how parents spell out "bad" words and avoid answering questions of a sexual nature and whatnot

mircea_popescu: i suppose anyone not aiming to get them pregnant's perverse by the general definition. this also includes the girls in question.

phf: ben_vulpes: i updated cs to not build untested plugins, so if you do brew update..

phf: i was also trying to build gcc&co with the same script, which is where i drew the line. but if it's not self contained and i have to rely on homebrew anyway, might as well make it all modern and dwim

ben_vulpes: i can't do shell scripts without those two things.

phf: i did three builds so far, one was manual toothpicks and gum, the other one was generated using a shell script, but that was just unmanageable, so i'll figured i'll try homebrew scripts, which is the most promising so far

ben_vulpes: i'll get there i'm sure

phf: i think i found another issue, that's present on my system too. seems like cs requires openal, but i don't have it in dependencies (nor do i have it installed). not sure if it just went past the issue on my install or what

phf: yeah cs's configure takes --without-* param, so i'll harden the script too

ben_vulpes: well except i don't think i ever did

phf: i think that might be fixable using something like --disable-* or --without-*, i'll take a look at it in a bit

trinque: mod6 | The whole 'we need to get to a sane environment -- let's use Gentoo' idea was pre-dated the rotor. Now I just gotta get rotor to work for me :] << for sure; my current efforts are directed at the problem of n00bs showing up, asking for a gentleman's computer, and getting five hundred contradictory answers on how to set it up