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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's an accounting practice; we could in theory only depreciate the SSDs and hold the machines onthebooks forever to reflect your view that the iron doesn'
t actually lose value.
ben_vulpes: mk well let me know what doesn'
t make sense at your leisure
a111: Logged on 2016-04-07 17:41 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: easy, just don'
t use the idiot ieee float
phf: i don'
t know what they did in sbcl that it gives 8.75863727 locally, but with double float cmucl gives 8.758457270000001 and with double-double-float it's 8.75845727w0
trinque: isn'
t a programming environment sure, batshit language, yes, but all *these* sorts of problems were worn off by the flow of industry over the surface
trinque: doesn'
t bother me then, folks can let me know if they want to receive.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 18:30 asciilifeform: !Q later tell mircea_popescu i realized nao that if i fire up the thing as described, we won'
t have the hostnames. they are are (currently) trinque-produced.
mod6: Picture in my mind... when I read 'shore leaves', I start taking that literally, like 'oh, he went to BA?! nice! How come he didn'
t say so?!?!?!', etc etc.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: BingoBoingo devoted a great deal of space to the subj in own www and in the logs, i assumed , imho justifiably, that you knew. << I did hear about a 'girl', which I was happy to hear! I just didn'
t know what 'shore leaves' was. Had to do 3 minutes of gymnastics. This is about comms with mod6.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 1 minute ago: <asciilifeform> i realized nao that if i fire up the thing as described, we won'
t have the hostnames. they are are (currently) trinque-produced.
mod6: You shouldn'
t have to do this.
BingoBoingo: that there are numbers which we didn'
t have in February it would be a great comfort generally to see the board coming forward with plans, however rough, that at least expand out to a year.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I can come up with a number, but I would like to see a proposal coming from the board that covers a year and moves away from the month to month shoot from the hip approach. A big part of the appeal of submitting to management was outsourcing the worry allocation. Even if it takes a week or two, seeing the board work through the process of putting an offer together so I don'
t have to stress over assembling an offer. Now
mircea_popescu: such luzly cluelessness as to how to win a war, it's possibly the prime field of ustardian bogonism. i mean... they can;'
t program computers, sure. but at least the computer doesn'
t shoot you for being an idiot.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, why don'
t you realise b was better than a when your experience of b is mediated by the items that produced a ?
mircea_popescu: this, of course, isn'
t a crime. but it can readily account for diversity of oppinion.
mircea_popescu: ok, well, let's just say there's a lot of history you don'
t know.
mircea_popescu: (made, in case you also weren'
t there for the berlin games, means to have been spotted.)
mircea_popescu: well, "the world" didn'
t hear "just the facts" about that, either. so...
mircea_popescu: i suppose he wasn'
t here for the gavin beheading, imagines the usg can even protect its agents or something like that.
zx2c4: anyway, the only point im making with this extended debian example is that it's one thing to point to systemic societal shifts and tendencies. its quite another to make a claim about a particular individual and their deceptions. some people are deceptive. others aren'
t. but it's not a conclusion you can ever jump to trivially
mircea_popescu: what exactly is prestigious outside of my rating it, i don'
t get it ? you imagine i even for a second see the people eating rubber chicken at conferences above the prostitutes i don'
t bother to talk to at strip clubs ? why the fuck would i roflmao.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, i don'
t think the usg is capable of representing me at all.
mircea_popescu: you can'
t say "x is similar to y" when y exists and x does not.
mircea_popescu: how about this : "academics/journalists/assorted neets released wordsonapdf without releasing raw data to support conclusions *because* they didn'
t actually do any research to generate said raw data" ; "these baseless claims were paid fiat paper, because the person ion charge of distributing fiat paper to baseless claims picked them out of the sea of similar batshit insane nonsense emanating from the insane asylum at large, f
zx2c4: - academics released wordsonapdf without releasing raw data to support conclusions *because* they didn'
t actually do any research to generate said raw data
mircea_popescu: it works well enough, for as long as the republic doesn'
t mess up things.
mircea_popescu: in order to have published, you must publish ; otherwise herodotus' imaginary travels are the first source for animals that don'
t exist.
mod6: For these sorts of things, don'
t hesitate to send a formal pgpgram to me.
mircea_popescu: the difference between me and ten thousand librarians who also read the same books is that i don'
t go around spitting out the references in lieu of doing the inadherent wwwism.
mircea_popescu: don'
t start pointing fingers and acting like idiots about it, either. you've got a problem, because to survive one must stay agile, not senilize before the time.
mircea_popescu: that he ~tried to~ is evident ; that it didn'
t work is even more evident. you lot have to have words together and get better at this.
mircea_popescu: understand that when you opt ot make "small donations" as a palliative measure to reconcile the goat and the cabbage you're not using the tool. this is orcism, "i don'
t know how to work vacuum cleanner but did some fingerbanging of the dust ad interim"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you gotta get better at talking things through ; the "other members" talk has its places but this isn'
t one.
trinque: isn'
t that the point? lol!
lobbes: I still dun get why seperate channel wouldn'
t work? deedbot today somehow does xyz and successfully announces phuctor pops here. Why can'
t one of the n00bs stand up a bot to do the same thing... but in a side channel? Shouldn'
t require any changes at all to standing phuctor process, right?
mircea_popescu: i didn'
t even know this can be done with c and python.
mircea_popescu: weren'
t you just explaining that there's a python display part and a c work part, and you suck at the python part ?
mircea_popescu: well yes but looky : all projects to be useful must communicate. giving someone else the communication part certainly has some aspects of relinquishing control, but you can'
t at the same time not know how to communicate and not work with someone who does. it's self-defeating, this strategy.
mircea_popescu: well certainly the whole "get expensive phuctor machine" thing wasn'
t on nsa books so that it works for three days and then waits forever.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, did you just say "anyone who wants to do this must do it in the way it wasn'
t specified because i'm not making the principal element everything rests on" ?
mircea_popescu: well, you'd be running the rss script yourself. ever ran code you didn'
t write before ?
mircea_popescu: doesn'
t seem like it'll be very sustainable. vixtim of your own success eh ?
mircea_popescu: and yes, the reason it has separate table is so it doesn'
t mess up your locks on the main one.
jurov: asciilifeform: can'
t add timestamp column to gpgkeys "lastpopped" that gets updated?
mircea_popescu: however, he'd have to run a script he doesn'
t actually understand.
mircea_popescu: well, the proper statement here isn'
t that "fixing db will be to my grief" ; the proper statement is that "fixing db, while a massive improvement to the $item, has the unfortunate drawback of requiring some trims i'm ill equipped to handle / have to send for across town"
mircea_popescu: reading can go surprisingly fast if it doesn'
t make much difference what order the words come in.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, hmmm, I had in mind an even faster she-reader but I can'
t seem to find ref; that works too I suppose although I suspect the fromdeedbot guy "read" even faster
mircea_popescu: i'm still not certain he wasn'
t telling the truth even.
jurov: O.o why is rss tightly coupled iside phuctor? can'
t be independent job that can be ran as required?
diana_coman: and who asked you anything about what you agree/don'
t agree with?
diana_coman: fromdeedbot, "recently" doesn'
t change anything; read and understand the "old" stuff - around here meaning doesn'
t magically expire
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 01:59 asciilifeform: i will note, in case it wasn'
t obvious earlier : folx who previously were refraining from linking phuctor somewhere on account of 'how could it take the heat' are nao invited to open the throttle.
mod6: fucker looks like he'd step on it if he wasn'
t careful!
trinque: mod6: sure, and won'
t stand in your way if you want to start selecting
mircea_popescu: mod6, i know, right ? anything, don'
t get me wrong, i don'
t think you have to do anything about it. or anyone else. it's a problem we can'
t yet well aproach, let it lie.
mircea_popescu: i can'
t imagine why i wouldn'
t be. kinda why the whole platform exists in the first place, to allow such outgrowth.
douchebag: I don'
t have the funds to pay employees who are qualified
mircea_popescu: now why don'
t you, like me, see the great promise of fundamental thinking in his approach ?
mircea_popescu: not to say that we didn'
t do heroic fucking work to fix it. but fixed -- it is not yet. ahead of anyone else as we may be.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, think : you broadsided ME with it too. unlike him i am rather large mass, but the point is fucking there -- we don'
t actually even know the full dependency tree with any specified precision.
trinque: I can'
t argue perl or misc other isn'
t a dep, god knows what all is in there.
mircea_popescu: but it must be said that the q is not entirely spurious (even though he didn'
t actually read, evidently enough).
mircea_popescu: the correct way would be to have a list of enumerated known-goods ; though this is understandably not done as it is -- because expensive. and satoshi didn'
t do it because he didn'
t even have any conception of dependency versioning.
ben_vulpes: i can'
t believe we're entertaining the notion of depriving the poor chinches
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, afaik there isn'
t anywhere a complete list of specified versioning for trb, nor ever was.
ben_vulpes: ah shit i didn'
t even think about apartment as bunk + cowork replacement augh i'm so dumb
mircea_popescu: the sort of guy who thinks like this also imagines the only reason he's not running an uruguay dc is because he didn'
t feel like trying, not because he doesn'
t have the juice in him to do it if he had a thousand years and the fed's own paper account at his disposal.
mircea_popescu lulz at the poor misfortunate cia strike team, belabouring in montevideo under the usual threat of "you never fucking know where that nut put a sleeper to shoot you in the face" and then stuck paying dollar-for-dollar import duty on all their spurious gear that doesn'
t even work AND THEN having to find a fucking spoke lost in transit locally and taking three weeks to still not do it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the logic in 'why didja put it in UY, bw costs 4x moar than in usa and cia will still steal yer iron eventually' is pretty amusing. "doesn'
t it stand to your reasoning that 'cia will steal eventually' is 16x as expensive for the same reason bw costs 4x as much ? if not, why not ?"
mircea_popescu: we're kinda only interested in the sort of heathen that's interested in veblen goods anyway. the collectivist-equalitarianist among them isn'
t worth anyone's time.