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BingoBoingo: Those servers are a treasure.
asciilifeform: the specific flavour of x86 boxen asciilifeform is partial to, has become a rarity, and imho worth to recover all of it for reuse.
asciilifeform: fwiw i still have the transportation gear, the sacks, paddings, etc.
BingoBoingo: That I guessed from the logs.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma come if it somehow turns out to be impossible to send the irons as freight, but otherwise must pass.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If you do make it back to the Oriental Republic, however... I am willing to drop everything to make a potroast.
asciilifeform: but there's orcbux in reserve for this. as was sworn.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not looking to evacuate immediately.
asciilifeform: ( what to do there, is separate q, if i knew i'd buy for self also ! )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i will buy personally for you a ticket to anywhere on planet3.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems that you do not want to be evacuated yourself ? asciilifeform is ready to carry out this duty if BingoBoingo wishes.
BingoBoingo: I am inclined to make somewhere in Latin America, even if not Uruguay work. Bingoboingo the journalist loves this country. Bingoboingo the retarded datacenter tech/mongoloid startup manager hates this country.
lobbes: well, as diana_coman once told me *sustainable* growth is the key. From my chair at least, it doesn't seem like taking time to regroup is a necessarily a bad thing
BingoBoingo: She's been working on getting some English language, but ripping her out of the Spanish language space and bringing her to eastern Europe and Slavic languages to get colocated with me near another datacenter... When the necessity of spreading seems to have been one of the lessons... It seems a bit much.
BingoBoingo: I don't in this moment feel as portable as I did in 2017 because now there's the Peruana. I'm rather fond of her, but she loves me.
BingoBoingo: To put together another Pizarro from nothing, Even with the past two years there are other hard edges I have not mastered that I know would be necessary, and the tissue paper pipe problem can happen again.
BingoBoingo: To put together a Qntra I might read five to ten takes from raw sources before I can collapse the story into condensed, journalistic text.
lobbes: on the bright side, tho, now you have real world experience for someone else that starts an endeavor of the sort. It is expensive to get that experience, and you own it in a way no one else does
lobbes: this is true about the accretions of failure. A lesson for all of us, I reckon. Makes me take a hard look at my own failures I may be missing
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Leaping over the wire was the easy part. Letting ritual complexity explode early by not objecting to the GPG note passing thing was a failure. The big failure was marketing, not having a private message churner or selling anyone on the idea of getting one together for Pizarro and fast. The thing about failures is that over time their consequences accrete. Over time these accretions build up and generate inertia. It is like a
lobbes: Not sure what I'm trying to say exactly, other than perhaps "there's many ways to make a mark in history". Idk, I'ma shut up as my inspirational speeches seem to have a history of turning people off rather than inspiring
lobbes: it is easy to look at, say MP, and go "well I'll never even be close to doing the things he does", but to me BingoBoingo's story is uniquely inspirational in that folx like myself can go "well, he made the jump into uncharted waters. He built *something* even if the resistance of the medium won in the end. Why couldn't I also build something?"
lobbes: BingoBoingo: fwiw, I think you did better at this venture than I imagine I ever would have. It took balls to take that initial leap over the wire and bootstrap the thing.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:15:20 mp_en_viaje: "not talking to many people you don't know ~= suicide" might've been more productive a lesson.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941999 << I feel this sting.
BingoBoingo: mod6: To take any backups of your machine, I will need some sort of credentials to log in.
BingoBoingo: Oscar did send some new graphs. One seems to show a lot of traffic hitting Latecho near, but not inside out block. https://ibb.co/MBCdf6X https://ibb.co/4NdZGcV https://ibb.co/0K2Z4TK https://ibb.co/zQHs76v
BingoBoingo off to quickly acquire some nutrition
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: apologies. Got a tab open for each logger atm.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to use the echatronic loggers
a111: Logged on 2019-10-07 23:05 asciilifeform: BB will correct me if i'm wrong on this pt.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-10-07#1941897 << S.MG was to buy the two machines through payment of machines in kind ☝︎
BingoBoingo back at terminal. Shared machine user data backed up along with databases. asciilifeform Dulap powered down, drives removed
asciilifeform off to pet pets. bbl.
asciilifeform: naturally a welded tin can aint a 100 tonne safe . but will be equally impossible to get inside w/out leaving obv. marks.
asciilifeform: lobbes: if you colo boxen, i rec to take a weekend to learn to use a spot welder
asciilifeform will miss the golden time of when could put a box in a locking cage where only l1 human , rather than dirty paws of heathens, will lay on it
lobbes: asciilifeform: this is a point re: parking in same cage. Perhaps couldn't hurt to do some more charting.
asciilifeform: lobbes, diana_coman , can take the piz banners off yer log www's, they dun go anywhere no moar...
asciilifeform: that being said, i dun exactly have a list of 9000 cages that known to work.
asciilifeform: lobbes: i expect if we all park in same cage , will end in same tears .
lobbes: and neato re: patch. I still need to apply the detect_disconnect patch as well. Will do that tonight before bed
lobbes: asciilifeform: ack re: sigs. I'll let you know once I have new blog home. Going to order a leased stock box from that moldavian hoster nao methinks
asciilifeform: sigs, that is
asciilifeform: lobbes: i was sadly unable to mirror your patches, as they lived in piz. when you find new home for your www, i will mirror. (otherwise feel free to paste as comments, and i'ma try and parse'em out)
asciilifeform: lobbes, diana_coman : logotron tree updated, removed 'shlex' , tested with bare hands on local staging box ( baitbot ! ) , can be used .
asciilifeform: had reserved for resupply crate and its contents, tho.
asciilifeform: or to go overseas etc.
asciilifeform: it will be a while before asciilifeform can again participate in building anything that material costs more than electrons .
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform cannot safely receive fiatola from humans. so that's where got with what to build. )
asciilifeform: as it is, asciilifeform was building boxen, so managed to not only burn most of coin stash on it, but fiatola saving also.
asciilifeform: so normally i see it as 'non-renewable resource', like to sell organs.
asciilifeform: point being, in asciilifeform's eyes only makes sense to spend personal coinz if can buy it back ~immediately at same or better price. which is difficult to do.
asciilifeform: lobbes: nao-forgotten d00d wrote a sort of early premined shitcoin, 'urbit', and asciilifeform won one as a prize in a contest he had. is what this was.
asciilifeform: also at one point sold a mythical kingdom to some unknown fella for a little.
asciilifeform: did not want to deal with the 'btc komoyooniti', found it repulsive.
asciilifeform: lobbes: i mined (yes) 1st, on the pile of junkyard fpga i happened to have surrounded self with at the time .
lobbes: I bought my first coin for ~$20 back in 2013 or abouts, then hung onto it for dear life. Almost lost it in a tardstalk scam, but luckily read hanbot's ancient writings; found this place in time
asciilifeform: ~100% of the coin asciilifeform ever had, in fact came from the people here.
lobbes: same, I'm glad I bought little bits when it was alive at least. I'll miss those auctions
asciilifeform: lobbes: i had enuff for maybe 1 moar refuel of piz and then fat zero.
lobbes: even worse, I dun even have a working trb node
asciilifeform might be unusual, but often prefers to pay in orc scrip because sitting on a vehehehery modest and rapidly dwindling pile of btc
asciilifeform: not 1 of the fucktards i abortively talked to in '17 was willing to eat btc.
lobbes: I may look into getting another box from them myself; gonna need another home for blog / auctionbot and would rather not hang everything on my usg hoster
lobbes: willing to gpg and accept btc too, it seems
asciilifeform: ( iirc diana_coman took a leased stock machine rather than colo )
asciilifeform: d00d seems willing to colo, gave price.
asciilifeform: remains to be seen how will behave on battlefield, but so far could be worse
asciilifeform: lobbes: afaik the only promising parking atm.
lobbes: seems like folks are aiming towards diana_coman's contact huh
asciilifeform: lobbes: i expect there'll be a where-to-park then.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-07 06:37:31 mp_en_viaje: lobbes, when is it you'll need a server to sit down orchestra on ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 13:06:49 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941226 << The 'first chunk' which spits lines into the mpwp db should be complete by the end of this month (as in patched and ready to go). That's a conservative estimate as well; hopefully sooner.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:34:35 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941357 << i meant the whole thing, when you're ready to make delivery and i hafta have a server ready for you to do this on.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941645 << at my current rate of developing the thing, I will give a tentative estimate of Jan 1st 2020 as delivery date of whole enchilada. I will update this deadline quickly if I see it threatening to be pushed
mp_en_viaje: but anyways, having now read this 771 line / 19k words log twice, ima to bed.
mp_en_viaje: in my case it's more a case of "oh, remember when the old shcmucks srsly thought they stand a chance ?"
asciilifeform: 'we were younger then'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: all times eventually remembered as 'good times', is how the meat worx
mp_en_viaje: good times.
asciilifeform actually followed the last convulsions of bbet, and the end of era1, on hidden terminal in a snakepit fulla unspeakable usg stooges
mp_en_viaje: lol, remember the 1k btc berkshire bet ?
asciilifeform: was in the last days of bitbet.
mp_en_viaje: which was this ?
asciilifeform: was also when lost good % of net worth in the alphago thing.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-08 00:11:07 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, from experience, all possibly imploding salt mines are in fact imploding. Mocky_ 's experience is iirc in the logs as current-most-recent.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1941985 << fwiw i've never worked anywhere that didn't eventually die. even that usg army lab -- closes.
mp_en_viaje: pizarro had a decent run in spite of management ; that it came to an end... it ran for 20+ months neh. plenty of time.
mp_en_viaje: but ultimately, the reason experience's so painfully expensive, is that nobody takes so much from it ever.
mp_en_viaje: "not talking to many people you don't know ~= suicide" might've been more productive a lesson.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: before piz lost shirt twice. so far most of what learned is 'electrified fence around zone, hurts' )
mp_en_viaje: i daresay most of the benefit of pizarro was in training you inept tards to some (probably minuscule) degree.
asciilifeform: lobbes: nao time for the young heroes.
lobbes: mp-wp bot couldn't be a thing without it, for example
lobbes: logger vpatch still exists because asciilifeform tho
asciilifeform: ( e.g. 'm' also was for piz. came to 0. )
asciilifeform: put full throttle since late may into piz & logger. nao have neither.
mp_en_viaje: white sheets are always good to have in any case.
mp_en_viaje: isn't that a sobering thought.