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asciilifeform: well, there is 'Если немца убил твой брат, Если немца убил сосед, — Это брат и сосед твой мстят, А тебе оправданья нет. За чужой спиной не сидят, Из чужой винтовки не мстят.' (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: there were no 'gender comment commits', not only in, e.g., system v unix, but in symbolics 'genera' (smbx corp employed, interestingly, a multitude of chix, some of whom appear in my bookcase even now)
asciilifeform: and not, as they usually contend, simply M units of unlucky, for M == number of maggots
asciilifeform: fact: folks who share their bed with maggots are different, in fundamental and interesting ways, from those who do not
asciilifeform: not only is it a mistake to ask the maggots, but likewise it is mistake to ask the maggot-farmer
asciilifeform: this inevitably brings to mind the characters in BingoBoingo's links, who curse doctor for going to the root cause of bedridden maggot farm
asciilifeform: $up fromphuctor
asciilifeform: a sane exterminator would begin by asking why the bed has 100kg of maggots in it to begin with
asciilifeform: just as, per yesterday's thread, nobody forced the bathroom mold.
asciilifeform: nobody forced poettering.
asciilifeform: same organ, same shape, mega-unsurprise
asciilifeform: all of the proggies have roughly this very same shape.
asciilifeform: the situation of open sores is really not at all different.
asciilifeform: only 1 shape matters, aha, lel
asciilifeform pictures said 'sculptor' grunting out a dodecahedron
asciilifeform: uselessly debased concept.
asciilifeform: by that token a dog taking a shit is a sculptor.
asciilifeform: just 'tip the dump truck here and here'
asciilifeform: foreman. but no design.
asciilifeform: (has no design.)
asciilifeform: linux, quite arguably, was designed by no one
asciilifeform: and likewise their designs are also dead (or alive in museums and collections like mine)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-03#1513748 << i must now point out that ~everyone ~involved in os design~ is... dead ☝︎
asciilifeform: l0lz
asciilifeform: it was a desperate wunderwaffen.
asciilifeform: recall how the original pgp collected keystroke fuzz etc.?
asciilifeform: and userland proggies trust it implicitly, lacking any alternative
asciilifeform: so rng gets stuck as an os api function
asciilifeform: *userland
asciilifeform: it is a kind of forced/nudged idiotarianism, via os architecture, useland does not have the direct access to the hardware (incl. the scheduler) to force a proper sampling of whatever hardware rng
asciilifeform: if there is anything one cannot accuse insects of, it is lack of economy.
asciilifeform: they 'hired the cheapest soothsayer' !!111
asciilifeform: hey they're genius exam takers, whaddayaexpect, 'we want to pass ent' 'how to pass' 'whiten' 'done'
asciilifeform: testing whitened bits which may or may not even have actual physical entropy behind them is ~useless.
asciilifeform: even winblowz.
asciilifeform: because on the userland end, ~100% of shit os will pass.
asciilifeform: my contention is that this test belongs on the system end.
asciilifeform: if it were a consistent, known-quantity effect - yes
asciilifeform: (e.g., aes of a stream of nulls, outscores (debiased) geiger, electric rng, whatever you like, on ~100% of the tests)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: whitened crapolade passes all known entropic tests, in fact considerably better than the 'real thing'.
asciilifeform: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EAFB01DF89745CDC55D1D8A0B5BC68F625251EC35B15486E5297A54492BB56D9 << in other lulz.
asciilifeform: otherwise you get slipped the wonderfully entropic digits of some transcendental constant and that'll be it.
asciilifeform: to compactly rephrase, entropy testing is only useful when you ~know the design of the rng~
asciilifeform: (recall, e.g., digits of pi, pass the ent tests.)
asciilifeform: it is useless to test rng that is, to steal hanbot's phrasing, 'an unknown mixture of fact and hogwash'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-03#1513709 << the obvious reason: at this point, even the lamest system rng (urandom, etc) are 'whitened' and trivially pass the tests, while having anywhere from 0 to whatever actual hardware entropic content ☝︎
asciilifeform expected this idiocy to pop up at some point.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://twitter.com/wolfoftheair/status/760774766542282752
asciilifeform bbl.
asciilifeform: *snippet
asciilifeform: even that snipped from gpg
asciilifeform: could've sworn this was in the logz
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-24#1144420 << possibly here? ☝︎
asciilifeform: iirc
asciilifeform: we had this thread...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/b7ce7e35-60d3-4e97-85e2-1f8c87607d36 << relevant excerpt. gpg 1.4.10. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well... indirectly: us.
asciilifeform: fabio__: understand, also, that someone who offers you a more complicated (i.e. more moving parts) cryptosystem without ~justification~, is attempting to compromise your security, no less than if he were stalking in your garden under the cover of night bristling with cameras and antennae
asciilifeform: ~adopting~ is another matter.
asciilifeform: ~contemplate~ whatever suits your fancy -- folks have... contemplated, e.g., trains with triangular wheels riding on sinusoidal rails.
asciilifeform: and yes, we had a thread
asciilifeform: there is also this.
asciilifeform: in the elementary sense of 'number of ops required to solve avg case'
asciilifeform: it is, for instance, not proven that rsa reduces to difficulty of factoring integers, or what complexity class factoring is in.
asciilifeform: fabio__: what kind of details are you interested in ? there is no reduction-to-complexity-class proof of hardness for either cryptosystem.
asciilifeform: nosuchlabswww: lemme guess, you clicked 'contact' link on the www. presumably you have something to say ?
asciilifeform: nosuchlabswww: hello ?
asciilifeform: $up nosuchlabswww
asciilifeform: and understand the limitations.
asciilifeform: use - what's available.
asciilifeform: most recently, a battery that nearly turned to a frag in my pocket
asciilifeform: i use a buncha stuff
asciilifeform: fabio__: the only cryptosystem for which any rigorous analysis exists is vernam (otp).
asciilifeform: statistical methods are wholly inappropriate here.
asciilifeform: or, alternatively, flown 10,001 times to his death, unreported.
asciilifeform: there is not such a thing as 'we used for x years and no reported problem.' quite conceivably the correct yamamoto has simply not yet flown.
asciilifeform: when enemy is perenially 'one step ahead', and 'no one knows why.'
asciilifeform: or consider, e.g., admiral yamamoto.
asciilifeform: so then.
asciilifeform: (looked at the player's 'cards')
asciilifeform: or any of the other strategy gamez where the computer 'cheated'
asciilifeform: ever play, e.g., sid meier's 'civ 1' ?
asciilifeform: all of your doings will 'mysteriously' come to nought, folks will say 'bad luck' etc.
asciilifeform: in a crypto break, you, your family, the onlookers, everyone you give half a shit about - can be corpses, for 25 years, and ~not know~
asciilifeform: and if not you, personally, the corpse, then - onlookers
asciilifeform: if a bridge collapses, or reactor melts down, you will know it
asciilifeform: fabio__: it is helpful to understand that cryptographic breaks are quite unlike ANY other type of engineering failure.
asciilifeform: *on the
asciilifeform: not vice-versa.
asciilifeform: the burden of proof is one the folks proposing to replace a simple system with few moving parts (rsa) with a larger and gnarlier item
asciilifeform: (its appearance in bitcoin is, contrary to popular delusion, not a reason)
asciilifeform: well, for starters, i'd like a compelling reason to even ~entertain~ ecc in the first place.
asciilifeform: fabio__: not how it works.
asciilifeform: $up fabio__
asciilifeform: pg, altman, et al laughed all the way to the bank
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is conflating the sc4mz0rs with their chumps
asciilifeform: i would like to buy ticket, to watch him stuffed into the paddy
asciilifeform: wake me up when paul graham
asciilifeform: by a registered lizard
asciilifeform: that was actually funded, with actual money