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Luceo: They don't believe me
usagi: That doesn't make me a scammer, it makes me anonymous.
usagi: I don't get it
Azelphur: I don't even use bsd, I'm a Ubuntu person
Luceo: mircea_popescu: Azelphur didn't steal me :P
usagi: And you're new here too, aren't you? I mean you just came here last month?
dub: ciuciu: you really haven't said anything except quoting a particularly retarded mod on a wholey retarded forum
BTC-Mining: Mining ain't dead
mircea_popescu: ya, how;s that going ? haven't seen the other s guy in a while
mircea_popescu: it wasn't easy nor cheap, but in the end worth it. nevertheless, i tell you, litigations of the nature discussed here are rarely worth it.
mircea_popescu: actually i read but don't recall where that the MAJORITY of suits don't make more money than the cost to sue.
Luceo: I don't think validating who anyone is means anything, yeah I can sue him but likely my volume isn't going to be enough to justify it
mircea_popescu: these aren't, if maturely considered, solutions.
smickles: mircea_popescu: wasn't paraipan the guy who filed a police report on sombody?
Luceo: BTC-Mining: Sure, but a lot of non-scammers don't want to be known either
BTC-Mining: Luceo, most scammers don't want to be known, even if they steal only small amounts
Luceo: I don't care about anonymity, I don't think anyone is more trustworthy because I know their name or what they look like
Luceo: Having said that, the Romanian ones aren't bad either :D
BTC-Mining: whois doesn't always display the actual owner of the domain.
smickles: ciuciu: didn't he go bankrupt a few times too?
smickles: mircea_popescu: didn't it drop to 0.00010000 before this recent spurt?
mircea_popescu: wasn't it trading at 1.5 earlier ?
mircea_popescu: Just hoping it won't cause many more people losses.
mircea_popescu: i don't know the guy personally but i know of him
mircea_popescu: course... it doesn't looks like it wants to happen ;/
mircea_popescu: well ya 2x, but they also have to pay servers and whatnot. im just saying a coupla mn usd yearly revenue isn't HUGE. it's a small business.
mircea_popescu: but they didn't really have the volume back then
BTC-Mining: They haven't been around with high bitcoins price for a long time
BTC-Mining: But they weren't around for long and bitcoin prices went up just last year
mircea_popescu: zhou was prolly one at his zenith, unfortunately that didn't go over so well for him.
mircea_popescu: but i don't think that many more out there. maybe, who knows
Ignatius-otc: Do you have a normal day job? If so, what is it? If you don't mind me asking...
Ignatius-otc: I made an account at bitcoinica but read of others experiencing faked market moves. I am familiar with them from chinese based forex bucket shops like cmsfx. I didn't get a coin deposited before they shut down.
mircea_popescu: i don't understand what someone based in the us must have been thinking to get involved however.
Ignatius-otc: I didn't think bitcoinica was based udner sec regs? If so, huge derp on their part.
mircea_popescu: it's also the only place where you can trade options, the only place where you have margins, and i don't recall if transfers are still free or not on glbse, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: if anything it will increase in time. i haven't yet because the btc doubled.
mircea_popescu: i'd be more worried about december halving. i don't think at the curent bumbling pace the various companies will manage to deliver enough asics for diff to double
BTC-Mining: I don't know, there's so many tickers I don't follow/watch on GLBSE
BTC-Mining: No, I don't have an account on Mpex
mircea_popescu: anyway what the fuck is this, who buys guns that they can't dissasemble/reassemble ?!
BTC-Mining: BMD/MergedMining? I don't know
BTC-Mining: But won't put a lot in.
DeaDTerra: I have been working on selling it off for the last couple of weeks but the liquidity has been very low xD I guess that doesn't matter now anyways, I just hope the investors gets some kind of payment back.
DeaDTerra: Indeed, I will do my best to try to wrap this up, but considering that's what I have been doing for the last couple of months I don't think it will help much ... sigh
DeaDTerra: I will, I will never put my name on something I don't controll, and if I do it has to be clearly stated that I only do x and y. Because with rebate suddenly instead of a team and a massive budget we had a confused investor (that's me) and a single developer.
mircea_popescu: and everyone should. all this supporting people you aren't married to... srsly.
mircea_popescu: you drop hands don't prop hands.
mircea_popescu: you obviously aren't aware of how poker is played.
DeaDTerra: Thank you, Feels good to know that people don't doubt my trust even though I did a major fuck up.
DeaDTerra: When then things started to go worse, I thought it was just some development errors it will soon be fixed. The actual truth that a rebate was not being developed and b ZipConf didn't work as intended was not told. Instead they said it's being worked on or being delayed.
mircea_popescu: DeaDTerra i still don't see why you'd bother from the get go.
mircea_popescu: what i don't seem to get an answer to is if the j kenna guy paid all tradehill deposits ? or not really ?
mircea_popescu: so like 40k usd. hopefully the guy wouldn't muck up his name for a midrange car.
DeaDTerra: Yes, though unfortunatly my seal of approval isn't worth much anymore... xD
mircea_popescu: wasn't there some other itcsomething ?
ColdHardMetal: I don't know, most startups fail in the real world. Why would BTCLand be any different?
DeaDTerra: can't think of any else that's actually still alove
mircea_popescu: fpga wasn't around then
DeaDTerra: wasn't BMMO and JLP-BMD 1.0
ColdHardMetal: considering the platform itself in its current form hasn't been around for 6 months, it's hardly surprising most of the issues are younger than that.
DeaDTerra: I said I was not going to comment again, but yea don't judge just yet.
DeaDTerra: anyways, I think I am just going to stop talking about this xD, half of the time I remember incorectly and the other half I don't remember at all :P
DeaDTerra: To everyone who's affected: I'm incredibly embarassed, and I'm deeply sorry. I still have hope for the future. I can't be certain that it will work out for the best, but I'm going to continue to try until my last breath.
usagi: Why can't you post it?
DeaDTerra: hm that was probably the night I was up to 4am trying to fic this whole thing. Can't post this online unfortunatly, though if Nefario doesn't have it I should send it to him
DeaDTerra: Dude this is scary i remember reading this, but I can't remember when, I must have been so fuckign tired xD
mircea_popescu: i still don't believe it.
DeaDTerra: wtf skype didn't notify me
mircea_popescu: coercion doesn't work for creativity.
mircea_popescu: it still won't fix the company. so you get a car. big deal. you weren't into this to get a car.
DeaDTerra: If JRO doesn't respond soon then I will go through all skype convo I have ever been in with him and release all the relevant info
mircea_popescu: that doesn't look too good ?
mircea_popescu: usagi just saying, if people have a falling out contracts don't help at this level.
usagi: I have no soul. Sorry, can't follow
DeaDTerra: nvm I am going to stop name dropping it was months ago, I can't remember
usagi: I don't see the need for a team
DeaDTerra: That's why I don't think he will make a run or something silly like that.
DeaDTerra: Some say he's currently sick, I don't know I just want this solved and get back my BTC
DeaDTerra: when rebate couldn't show the results the shareholders wanted I pushed for a buy back and as JRO didn't respond and I haven't talked to him in a week Nefario decided to shut down the accounts, to investigate what was going on.
DeaDTerra: Rebate is up and running but is not as profitable as it needs to be and I doubt it will be as profitable, as long as it's not integrated to ZipConf and it doesn't have a proper development team behind it.
mircea_popescu: dude, it boggles. "i had an asset made in my name on my website and then i got like 1k btc of i dunno how many raised cause i didn't care and nao i shall give people whatever i have left ty all for being pros"
mircea_popescu: heck, wasn't giga doing a large buy for one ?
mircea_popescu: aren't they supposed to deliver like 1mn worth of fpga/asics this year to various ppl ?
mircea_popescu: people may throw their money at Pirate or BFL instead because they don't know any better. << what's the problem with bfl ?!
usagi: Kind of weird because he is well known in the SF community, I hear people he doesn't know stop him on the street all the time asking him about his businesses
usagi: For example I will not state that he isn't responding to emails, but rather point out that someone else said that
usagi: so I won't relay what amounts to rumor
mircea_popescu: jesus i didn't realise sr was so tiny
mircea_popescu: i could make a symbol on mpex but i don't think there's enough volume yet to warrant it. maybe on giga, tho...
usagi: So we will see if I can't get a few writeups/advisories out this month too
mircea_popescu: ya don't let it lapse you know ?
mircea_popescu: i didn't even know youtube counted views to that granularity.
Obsi: don't forget to have it alert when the 5 day is 0
BTC-Mining: I lost money selling shares at .12 instead of 1.12 (made for a nice loss). Most people recommended to request a reversal. I however think such transactions should not be reversable and I didn't request it.
bitfoo: didn't want any more exposure to pirate
MoneyIsDebt: I don't keep anything of value online anyway..
Obsi: evoorhees at one point wasn't it?
DeaDTerraMobil: doesn't matter
usagi: Hmm Diablo-D3 isn't here