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asciilifeform: see, i could even agree re: ~provably unknowable~ (i.e. godelian) unknowns. if these could be had. but 'unknown uknowns' inescapably shed the first 'unknown'
mircea_popescu: i lived my entire life cloaked in a shadow of "nobody saw him coming". i like it.
mircea_popescu: if anyone had the proof, i'd ask them to not publish it, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: course you said provable. i'll take that to. prove.,
mircea_popescu: i might as well go back to woodstove heating.
asciilifeform: to complete this story, i will add a diode on each antifuse and a collective rail to blow'em all
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform either you make me an infinitely rigid girder or i don;'t want anything to do with you.
mircea_popescu: in principle, i will say "block cipher" is exactly, EXACTLY, provably as retarded as "reusable otp via prng".,
mircea_popescu: to subvert thew pgp i npractice.
punkman: https://github.com/coruus/cooperpair/tree/master/pgpv4 key collision for v4, scallion attack was for v3 I think
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l, i get this: http://webkind.ru/text/989416971_946024927p581069957_text_pesni_n-ai-fost-acolo.html
asciilifeform: (with some success, as i gather)
mircea_popescu: i do not wish to eat in the restaurant where they piss in the beer, irrespective of any other consideration.
phf: mircea_popescu: i ~assume~ the intent is to speed up failure
mircea_popescu: hence the comments i an i presume him, made.
asciilifeform: but i can think of a pretty good illegitimate one.
mats: asciilifeform: I didn't know that. cool.
mircea_popescu: it is still not how i'd do it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i guess by being spurred by my recent statement and going into a "let's verify this" mode ?
asciilifeform: i've been walking around with a bound hardcopy of that thing for most of a year
asciilifeform: but yes, you can guess how i arrived at this tidbit.
asciilifeform: i will wait for one of you lot to point out where i somehow am mistaken.
mircea_popescu: i guess the next top priority in making cardano which was making bitcoin which was making vdiff is now making gpg.
asciilifeform: or do i have to draw the picture here.
asciilifeform: i spoke of this earlier today;
punkman: I'd say shitshow
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/againstmensrights/comments/3c1pry/all_of_the_nopes_there_is_no_such_thing_as_the/ dude i;m all over fucking reddit already.
mircea_popescu: toothpaste and lobster, why not, i would like some veal in sauce chantilly and a dollop of cream on my cigar.
mircea_popescu: i take it back.
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 19:01:28; trinque: and I think I'll continue to just make all the decisions rather than offer options, and then describe how one might proceed from there on their own, if they so desire
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 18:46:15; phf: i use to like vice do's&don't's, they were mean and funny. i always thought vice was magazine version of the whole terry richardson, merlin bronques "glam trash" photography, but that was still cool in 2004-2006. i guess it would make sense that they would be faux edgy tech articles, no better or worse then any other online rag, but i can't get over the image of hipsters on heroin writing that shit
cazalla: cop a flogging for having x-men trading cards but smashing windows in construction sites got a pass, i swear my old man liked to keep us walking around on egg shells
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 22:01:13; danielpbarron: and I "wasn't allowed" to watch ren and stimpy (had to sneak it)
pete_dushenski: hearn spills guts : "i would actually like to see less consensus in bitcoin development and more authoritarianism"
jurov: :/ yes i'm on it
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> yeah, mod you have teh honor. << thanks. I've confirmed that what I get from genesis.vpatch out of thin air is the same manifest as `bitcoin-0.5.3-no-crud.sha256.manifest`.
mircea_popescu: ps, i'm cracking a champagne bottle.
mircea_popescu: the files i sent over definitely only had it once.
phf: amusingly i tried looking for plan9's diff for some insight. they use a ported gnu version.
mircea_popescu: ok, sent it. do i wait for it to show ?
trinque: I was about to discuss that aspect; it's not that no one cares about diff; it's that everyone has conflicting reasons for caring
jurov: i can imagine someone fearing their job if diff isn't locale-aware
trinque: I don't see anyone on earth who owns diff
trinque: https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3522/3239361178_66b92e397b_b.jpg << I suppose a battlefield given some artistic license, but..
trinque: I think it's becoming clear that as mentioned already, none of this shit was ever used in battle.
ascii_field: i mean, i can maybe see a case where this is strategically necessary
trinque: I mean in the case of the hash, implicitly so
ascii_field: what if i don't want to hear so much as one byte if sig isn't from l1 ?
trinque: what I mean by header is perhaps no more than: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
trinque: ascii_field: yeah, why not? you send me a GET, I first tell ya how many bytes to expect, then signature, then body?
trinque: I mean were www sane it would work precisely that way
ascii_field: (i could explain why one may wish to do this, but will leave it as an exercise)
pete_dushenski: lest i try to piledrive my younger brother into the concrete sidewalk or something
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron the only show i wasn't allowed to watch was wwf wrestling
danielpbarron: and I "wasn't allowed" to watch ren and stimpy (had to sneak it) ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 05:04:30; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i'm taking notes here on cartoonz for kidz, so keep 'em comin.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i'd like to remind the esteemed readership, especially those people who would like to make their non-stem degrees useful to the future of this world, that http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/ is still open. a significant amout of work has already been put in, help me reward it by completing the task.
danielpbarron: i noticed today that you don't need to rename the files in order for them to verify; you can sha1sum and gpg --verify the downloaded attachments as they come, and go straight to extracting the tar afterwards
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the importance of the thing i intended, roughly, is that ~everything is either a vdiff or a sig~
mircea_popescu: jurov cool, ima try this and bitch more if i can find a way to.
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> really, if this wasn't obvious to mod6, ppl like hanbot and i have no chance << this probably should have been obvious to me. but sometimes, hard to see the forest through all of the trees. i've been looking at the compare diff a lot lately, and forgot that /all/ is contained in the genesis.diff.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, who wants to hold my retarded hand while i do that again ? i forget, what do i do, send an email with the plaintext as body and the detached sigfile as attachment ?
mircea_popescu: ima try to a signing statement once i put it to the ml
mircea_popescu: i kept meaning to do a statement explaining the major importance of that thing but i didn't really find my words with the deed.
pete_dushenski: ascii_field as it happens, i've been doing just that.
pete_dushenski: really, if this wasn't obvious to mod6, ppl like hanbot and i have no chance
mircea_popescu: thin priviledge is hanging out with friends, pointing out that i'd be more sensible to not give citizenship to children of fat people than to children of illegal immingrants, and not offending anyone.
mod6: yup, ok. and when I have my own genesis.vdiff, should compare with `diff -u` to the one you posted in your original email? or compare with vdiff?
mod6: I can say that your change to vdiff.sh `diff -uNr $1 $2 | awk 'm = /^(---|\+\+\+)/{s="sha512sum \"" $2 "\" 2>/dev/null " | getline x; if (s) { split(x, a, " "); o = a[1]; } else {o = "false";} print $1 " " $2 " " o} !m { print $0 }'` certainly removes the timestamps from the output hashes.
thestringpuller: well i'm paying him but still. credit where credit due.
thestringpuller: so as soon as I figure out the wp thing, i'll have a dedicated blog
thestringpuller: i also bought thestringpuller.com
thestringpuller: no better than tumblr. i just don't like making themes
thestringpuller: i hate it
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes and how is the lovely lady v these days ? staying active i trust ?
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: i'm migrating my blog to wordpress
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2014 18:48:15; asciilifeform: this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms.
ascii_field: if folks are happy with this result, i will re-create and sign the entire shebang tomorrow.
ascii_field: also i recommend changing the last line of the script to LC_ALL=C ./vdiff.sh a b > genesis.vpatch
cazalla: retail is rightfully dying here, so i guess they think this will shore up the taxes they're losing from that sector.. i am more curious to find out if it'll be applied to steam games and in-game purchases
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 18:46:15; phf: i use to like vice do's&don't's, they were mean and funny. i always thought vice was magazine version of the whole terry richardson, merlin bronques "glam trash" photography, but that was still cool in 2004-2006. i guess it would make sense that they would be faux edgy tech articles, no better or worse then any other online rag, but i can't get over the image of hipsters on heroin writing that shit
danielpbarron: mod6, http://danielpbarron.com/v0.5.4-TEST1.txt << you want I should run this one rather than the result of my rotor_quest?
trinque: and I think I'll continue to just make all the decisions rather than offer options, and then describe how one might proceed from there on their own, if they so desire ☟︎
trinque: I've changed it since to dump out a working musl system
trinque: this weekend I'm going to put together a rudimentary site for trinque.org and gather a few of the tools I've built there
phf: i use to like vice do's&don't's, they were mean and funny. i always thought vice was magazine version of the whole terry richardson, merlin bronques "glam trash" photography, but that was still cool in 2004-2006. i guess it would make sense that they would be faux edgy tech articles, no better or worse then any other online rag, but i can't get over the image of hipsters on heroin writing that shit ☟︎☟︎
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: but have, i think, eaten all that i can stomach.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i confess, began reading this crud linked from bci's www, where i looked for block guts
mircea_popescu: I had a TS clearance at Lockheed, and you have no idea what questions they asked. "Have you ever fucked a sheep?" << to which the only acceptable answer is, "does your mother count".
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why patent nonsense read by fewer people than are involved in writing it keeps somehow creeping into the conversation. but this sort of masochism of the intellectual is both ridiculous and overplayed already.
mircea_popescu: not so naturally. why is the thing still getting links i don't get it ?
danielpbarron: btw I got stator to build with the rotor toolkit and it is currently syncing and up to 153k blocks
mircea_popescu: i am asking them.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1247216 << i lolled :D ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i think it was even under 80% at some point this millenium.
mircea_popescu: you know looking back... i remember a time when anglo web produced a lower proportion of articles that don't crash and burn in the first paragraph.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi who these guys are, they didn't have the modicum of a clue to make contact or anything. for all i know the whole thing's an orchestrated attempt to shore up the notion that anyone still gives a shit about the usg inside the us.
mats: >The old arts of spying has really disappeared, my favorite is Android, for ease-of-use. The first thing I do is root it with towelroot to remove update capabilities, then remove bloatware, then unroot it of course.
ascii_field: 'I don't have a preference (LTC/BTC/ETC). A company in Uraguay has improperly used my name....' (mcaffee)
ascii_field: 'There's going to be a shitload of stuff going down. The hacker said they were going to release. If it were me, I'd had come clean immediately to my wife. I had a TS clearance at Lockheed, and you have no idea what questions they asked. "Have you ever fucked a sheep?". When the OPM hack happened, I wrote an article where I came clean to everything.'