asciilifeform: PeterL: 'get' until first contact with ru navy.

asciilifeform: i can understand folks who buy the subs (as described by mircea_popescu re costa rica narcos) but tanker is lunacy.

asciilifeform: which includes tanker.

asciilifeform: walmart and slow targets visible from 50km

asciilifeform: who, asked 'how we shall deal with uboats' answered, 'let's boil the atlantic'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu reminds me of the british ww1 admiral

asciilifeform: buy another! lel

asciilifeform: iirc the crew is largely ceremonial, the thing is driven by computer

asciilifeform: and in how many spots on planet3 can you do it

asciilifeform: what's it cost to dry-dock a tanker ?

asciilifeform: and certainly not a 'one bloke operates and repairs with his own two hands for 20 years' machine.

asciilifeform: incidentally tanker is a poor solution for another reason - it is, like that 'business jet', a 'have slaves machine'

asciilifeform: and small vessels, for all of their faults, are less breakable than large ones.

asciilifeform: only that it were interesting.

asciilifeform: much less by orlol.

asciilifeform: hey i never asserted that the problem was ~solvable~...

asciilifeform: y'know, the folks with their own crappy gps etc.

asciilifeform: euro space

asciilifeform: maybe ask lloyds?

asciilifeform: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/11/science/11wave.html << moar liez?

asciilifeform: 'Severe weather has sunk more than 200 supertankers and container ships exceeding 200 metres in length during the last two decades. ' << lies ?

asciilifeform: http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Observing_the_Earth/Ship-sinking_monster_waves_revealed_by_ESA_satellites << ?

asciilifeform: (quite a few tanker co. have already begun 'downsizing' by removing individual pistons, even..)

asciilifeform: nor the parts.

asciilifeform: and cheap - yes, until the diesel cannot be had in the requisite qty.

asciilifeform: good deal to send some ~other~ poor fuck on, to carry cargo.

asciilifeform: not good deal.

asciilifeform: QED.

asciilifeform: they break on waves.

asciilifeform: i am interested in the sea as ~strictly~ a place where the dollar buys moar social-isolation bang than elsewhere, and in no other way.

asciilifeform: srsly nobody grasped the point of the boat thread ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514357 << when ben_vulpes installs a 1500hp diesel in his living room and reports back re how much fun he is having. ☝︎

asciilifeform: why not ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu hangs out with moneyed folk. how many live on tankers ?

asciilifeform: millions (even, if one is thrifty, a single million, even of usd) can handily buy the requisite degree of social isolation ON LAND

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514356 << would someone kindly explain to me WHY i would wish to live on a ship if i had 'millions' ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: (need more like bathyscaphe, or at least sub)

asciilifeform: and go and built tanker that fits this description.

asciilifeform: seaworthy per OWN arse means nothing but 'NOTHING the sea can do to this thing, will sink it'

asciilifeform: any tub is 'seaworthy' when some OTHER arse drowns on it

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514350 << tankers are seaworthy?! perhaps by 'i sit on land while lloyds of london pays for the 100 tankers rogue waves sink every year' sense... ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514300 << it existed. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514296 <<<< ☝︎

asciilifeform: y'know, quite like those pediwikia clones that once were pestilentially common

asciilifeform: to the point that i've never thought of gmane as anything but a polluter of search results.

asciilifeform: and ~all of the gmane content is also found elsewhere.

asciilifeform: ( https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2011/10/31/legal-proceedings )

asciilifeform: consider, 'So, anyway, I’m perfectly willing to delete whatever it is they want to have deleted. So I was looking through the stack to see if that was in there somewhere.'

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514261 << it sucked. ☝︎

asciilifeform: there we go.

asciilifeform: at this point this thing has been responsible for more tmsr downtime than all of the ddos idiocies of the kako age combined.

asciilifeform: i dun get it.

asciilifeform: and what is so fucking hard about making the thing retry connect FOREVER if not connected ??

asciilifeform: does he run it on winblowz 95 or wat.

asciilifeform: phf: log down.

asciilifeform: OH FOR FUCKS SAKE

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514253 << it was eaten by systemd. there is a (last i saw, working) clean fork, 'eudev'. and it looks like phf explains further down in the l0gz. ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514210 << yes, specifically of that one. ☝︎

asciilifeform: (he did.)

asciilifeform: bbbbutt boeck HIMSELF vouched for shitoshi!!1111

asciilifeform: on the other end of the stick, there are 8914 256/384-bit (trivially broken) mods.

asciilifeform: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/0E72DA65482697B76A85E218D51CCEAFC20C447F95EAEF2922DF208145699F8C << didjaknow.

asciilifeform: mod6: dupe champ

asciilifeform: ^ 5,431

asciilifeform takes off hat

asciilifeform: ^ the champion ^

asciilifeform: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/326CEAF54F970B7AC2AC7C01E6E3365D433EF9639C06CB1DAF30185384E74C2C

asciilifeform: in other noose,

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yes, but which? 'slack' is a corporate aol-like chat

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514171 << slacks? ☝︎

asciilifeform: or what was it he went prospecting for.

asciilifeform: shinohai: perhaps he finally found that oil well.

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: diff the raw and standard views of linked piece.

asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes your wotpaste gizmo mangles c code, e.g., http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/e38c3232-5ff5-4e85-be93-d6d47f14354f

asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/e38c3232-5ff5-4e85-be93-d6d47f14354f << prime generator, from same.

asciilifeform: fromphuctor: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-03#1513678 << example of rsa key generation, as seen in gpg ☝︎

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: an rng firing blanks and leading rsa key gen to spit out the square of a prime immediately following a power of two, is simply one way to arrive at such.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: (and, ergo, to the square root of the mod)

asciilifeform: rather, with moduli where the two factors are quite close together

asciilifeform: nothing to do with powers of 2

asciilifeform: well no

asciilifeform: fromphuctor: in case you didn't know - fermat's method is not an effective way to attack a properly-generated rsa modulus

asciilifeform: is the skin worth the tanning ?

asciilifeform: etc.

asciilifeform: likes(l, p)

asciilifeform: for l in lusers ...

asciilifeform: dun exist in the corner store.

asciilifeform: would be entertaining to see what ft meade's looked like.

asciilifeform: this kind of thing really begs for a cpu arch optimized for bignummery

asciilifeform: (gpu's ram)

asciilifeform: and obliterate the parallelism

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doubtful, ram will be bottleneck

asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/bfd989db-f5e2-4d2e-b2aa-3f699bbb638a << this ought to get you started, if you want to fermat.

asciilifeform: nor would such a thing necessarily work especially well.

asciilifeform: fromphuctor: doubtful. afaik there is no bignum routine optimized for gpu

asciilifeform: fromphuctor: whichever you have. ~3.7M keys split nicely across N cpus.

asciilifeform: fromphuctor: it parallelizes.