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asciilifeform: but i don't see that this necessarily qualifies him as a tard. how is one to love something which is incompatible with your own existence ?
asciilifeform: i still want to picture a 'smart orwell'
mircea_popescu: i did not say orwell was ineffectuial. i said he was stupid.
asciilifeform: as far as i can tell, it was dead long before he learned to read and write
mircea_popescu: down with the shackles of this evil british empire of the blips which nevertheless creates the sort of people i like, even if i'm not actuaslly good enough to do anything in support. let's build utopia.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, even though modern pigments and computers and what have you, we're not being deluged in fine art, as "you'd expect" (if you were say orwell or some other dumb schmuck with the If a man cannot enjoy the return of spring, why should he be happy in a labour-saving Utopia? What will he do with the leisure that the machine will give him? I have always suspected that if our economic and political problems are e
mircea_popescu: i am persuaded.
mircea_popescu: no i know teh song lol.
asciilifeform: i would say it is only because it did not have centuries of decorative patina on it.
asciilifeform: there was, i think, a third, more pressing problem: why ought the sultan rule, when he can invent bureaucracy and have amoebas rule in his stead, while he bangs 10,000 chicks/year and smokes opium
asciilifeform: i see the proceedings of that court as similar to those of all modern courts: a continuation of the basic lie of 'rule of law', where 'it is not the sultan who condemns you to impalement, but the majesty of the law'
ag3nt_zer0: thanks I will look
mircea_popescu: or how shall i put this, there are two types of question justice answers.
ag3nt_zer0: ok, don't really have an opinion on him myself, but I thought that film was quite entertaining... like a cinematic hall of mirrors or something
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 i dun think much of welles as a director.
mircea_popescu: i do not share this view.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248670 << i still see ~actual authentication~ as being ~incidental~ to these proceedings. as in j.e.hoover's famous quip 'justice is incidental to law and order' ☝︎
asciilifeform: like that czech short story, author i can't recall, where a 'graphologist' is made to pronounce re: the authenticity of a typewritten page!
asciilifeform: i can't wait till they start doing circus like this for, e.g., a pgp signature
mircea_popescu: For every auction sale, a catalogue is produced describing each painting to be sold. Every entry indicates the certainty with which Sotheby's is prepared to attribute it to a particular artist. The catalogue entry may describe a painting in the following ways: i) Simply putting the name of the artist, for example, ‘Giovanni Bellini,' means that, in Sotheby's opinion, the work is by Bellini. ii) Attributed to Giovanni
mod6: good deal. i'll see what I can do about the mechanical checking and rebasing maybe later tonight, or tomorrow for sure.
mod6: yup yup, i recall. just trying to make sure i'm on the right track so i don't waste everyones time :]
asciilifeform: mod6: these look superficially correct, but need to be 1) compared mechanically and 2) rebased as i spoke of earlier
mircea_popescu: no i mean, the common, standard foodl. regarded as ideal by the village prisoners.
mircea_popescu: "no, i dont think they were townpeople [ie idiots] because when sitting to repast they took out mamaliga cu brinza like normal pewople]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have nfi why you think 'in savour or hue, no comrades have you' better than "in color or taste there's no comrades"
asciilifeform: hence why i said 'they annoint under pretence of adjudicating'
mircea_popescu: mneah. i dun like it, not my kinda woman.
mircea_popescu: i do not wish to consort with preteens ffs.
asciilifeform: of all the ones i can recall.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, what you like is what you like. to me she seems dumb.
mircea_popescu: but i don't mean copacetically like. i mean like like one's supposed to like art : un coup fumant. if she came off the toille you'd have no choice but to drop everything and marry her.
mircea_popescu: i don't remember any classical nude i like the face of.
mircea_popescu: besides, the modern copy can be fix. i much prefer my own rewrites of classical poems to the originals anwyay.
mircea_popescu would not feel particularly better for owning the "actual" copy of a painting he likes rather than a very good one. actually i'd feel like a total fool.
asciilifeform: well-known, i thought.
asciilifeform: (and i bet there are 25 films like this)
asciilifeform: can't say i have
asciilifeform: i am enthusiastically in favour of elaborate art fraudsters if they can ddos this process.
mircea_popescu: this is like, "it doesn't work if i come back home and there's TWO almost dressed blondies waiting for me"
mod6: ok i think i see what I did wrong here... just a minute.
mircea_popescu: i feel like a very old man.
mircea_popescu: oh i guess they were using it historicaly for the line above huh
asciilifeform: i was about to say.
mircea_popescu: i got one from yest, too :)
asciilifeform: add to a collection thereof, i suppose.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not sure what i was thinking there!
mod6: i did something wrong here.
mod6: yeah. you know... was just looking at these closer. i think i screwed something up
mod6: yeah, well, i agree, if somehow they end up restoring something back to its original sha512 something is wrong. or something needed to be rolled back for some reason.
asciilifeform: i ~really~ don't feel like stuffing a 'tortoise and hare algo' cycle-finder in that thing.
asciilifeform: my present understanding is that the only solution to this is that i intend to negrate anyone who EVER does this. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i.e. if someone were to submit an antipatch which brings a file hash back to a previously-seen value.
asciilifeform: (which i am trying to strip of all unnecessary 'intelligence')
mod6: <+asciilifeform> can either do this yourself, or wait several days until i get around to it. << i might get some more time to play around tonight. we'll see
asciilifeform: can either do this yourself, or wait several days until i get around to it.
mod6: asciilifeform: ok I regenerated all of the rel1 & rel2-pre patches with the new vdiff -- you want to review 'em?
fluffypony: but I agree with you on it not using init
kakobrekla: speaking on toy oses - i had a good build on deb8
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'm still not entirely convinced that particular knob is necessary
asciilifeform: if any aspect of the basic theory here is the least bit unclear to any of you, i want to hear about it asap.
asciilifeform: i am emphatically ~not~ recreating 'git' or the like.
asciilifeform: i am also considering a knob whereby one can sign a manifest
trinque: yep, that seems perfect, and I don't know how it could be simpler.
asciilifeform: trinque: i did the genesis.vpatch thing solely to simplify 'v' build system, which i was working on; such that there is no longer any shenanigans with tarballs, copying of crud, etc
trinque: yeah, I made the LC_ALL=C change
asciilifeform: earlier there were problems with different folks getting different (bitwise) genesis.vpatch - which i traced down to 'locale' retardation in gnudiff
trinque: I thought this was the exercise
asciilifeform: i posted a new vdiff.sh
trinque: I recall discussion of removing the timestamps, but didn't find a conclusion there ☟︎
trinque: asciilifeform: I've produced a genesis.vpatch with your instructions which is only different from yours in terms of timestamps. expected result? ☟︎
fluffypony: oh wait, I meant 6 hours ago
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248273 << in my eyes, a ~skilled~ art forger is a hero second only to a hypothetical fella who puts an actual bullet through a bilderberger. why, exactly, should i have any sympathy for the folks hitching a ride in the only 100% effective inflation shelter known, at the expense of literally everybody else ? ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 09:49:19; mircea_popescu: either they stole someone's shit, in which case i want the original ; or else they made it up, in which case i dun want to hear it.
mircea_popescu: s just they don't amount to much traffic wise, even when piled together, which is how i've never noticed before.
cazalla: i believe so
mircea_popescu: either they stole someone's shit, in which case i want the original ; or else they made it up, in which case i dun want to hear it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile how did that quote go, i really liked that thing, with social biddings and shit
shinohai: * I want a blockchain!* *Us too!*
shinohai: I hope that somewhere in the AM data, it is revealed Josh Duggar snorted coke off of a tranny's cock.
mircea_popescu: cuz i might want to be able to distinguish orwell from orlov
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what i don't grasp is why you're feeling so generous - giving orcs unique names.
mod6: asciilifeform: ... if you regenerate the 'orchestra' patches with new vdiff, i will sign'em. otherwise might have to wait a while << hey, no problem. I'll start in on this sometime tomorrow probably.
phf: i actually forgot that you were working on gnupg source for cardano
phf: oh? i missed that, i think that's before i started to read closely
asciilifeform: it is not a secret, i think, that i am working on a somewhat similar book.
asciilifeform: i thought this was well-known.
asciilifeform: though i would disagree re: 'pleasure'
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 if you regenerate the 'orchestra' patches with new vdiff, i will sign'em. otherwise might have to wait a while
asciilifeform: then again, i'm not winning any prizes for knowing the answer to this.
asciilifeform: btw i am still trying to figure out why the existing 'padding' algos are so asininely complex
mircea_popescu: (and i maintain that in all context hybrid encryption is retarde dwithout exception. either fuck or get off the woman.)
mircea_popescu: i wasn't at any point contemplating "rsa encryption = rsa run once over the message herp"
phf: i'm mostly curious if my guess about the purpose of the field was correct, but no insight from gpg
phf: asciilifeform: i'm failing to see the clusterfuck part
asciilifeform: phf: am i catastrophically missing something, (i didn't sleep much), or is this an even greater clusterfuck than if the 16bit were used ?!!
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood. but once i figure it out i'll make the computer do what you mean.
asciilifeform: either the legend of mr cocks is disinfo (i cannot rule this out at all) or usg had rsa before rivest, shamir, adelman.
asciilifeform: what am i missing
asciilifeform: i would like an asymmetric transform whose complexity were provably unknowable. that would be spiffy.