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mircea_popescu: 1. locust. i did not say irrelevant, i said locust is not part of agriculture. it isn't.
mircea_popescu: and i think sybil covers mitm
mircea_popescu: i do not believe scamming is economic activity.
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 01:18:04; mircea_popescu: lemme see if anything occurs. ima keep it open for a little bit see if i become suddenly unhappy with b overnight, then ima set it in stone an' give out some symbolic prizes for first completors.
mircea_popescu: but it's why i said http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251273 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason rawls is in there is because it gives perhaps the best approach for average derp to touch his derpitude. the reasoin no discussion of scamming is in economy is because i do not believe it is in there.
pete_dushenski: and i'm off. cheers
mike_c: of course, i'm wrong at least 50% of the time. anyhoo, I like the list :)
asciilifeform: hanbot: i dare say that the concept of idempotence is key re: bitcoin
mike_c: but I don't think there's a ton of patience in here for teaching 101 courses.
mike_c: I'm sticking by it. Once you know what a sybil attack is, this is a good venue to learn why what you know isn't quite right.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm trying to form a mental model of the how+why of certain quiz items; for instance, why is rawls in there, but not, e.g, 'describe what is a bucket shop'
mike_c: hanbot: I would think that would a pre-req for charging, yeah.
Adlai: mike_c: well i guess i should leave then!
mike_c: I don't think so. In here is different. Experts learning from experts.
Adlai: "all i know is that i know all"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is kinda what literacy is about, i think
mike_c: i mean, this is the long-lost "how do I learn bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: lemme see if anything occurs. ima keep it open for a little bit see if i become suddenly unhappy with b overnight, then ima set it in stone an' give out some symbolic prizes for first completors. ☟︎
mike_c: not as much as a certification, cuz i don't gives a fuk, but as a reading list. like, if you can't answer this, go research it.
mike_c: i like this thing, a lot
mircea_popescu: so i'm not too worried.
asciilifeform: i oughtn't just fuck it for people
asciilifeform: i can think 3 entirely-orthogonal that have come up here.
asciilifeform: hence why i suggested it..
asciilifeform: i do wish that mircea_popescu were right about this, it would make for an interesting mathemagical mindfuck
mircea_popescu: yeah ok, "all functions" does not work, i give. and it's not sal;vageable.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how the fuck can one say 'it functions' if i can divine all of your keys
Adlai: let's put it this way: either they should pass this (ie, my question); or they should understand 'random'; or i give up and have a little giggle
mircea_popescu: i put it to you bitcoion would still exist and function.
Adlai: "i do not think you actually have to have the concept of random to have bitcoin" << this actually goes hand-in-hand with my suggestion!
mircea_popescu: i don't think it was idiotic. they spent their bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: i do not think you actually have to have the concept of random to have bitcoin
mircea_popescu: i dun think ecc is integral to bitcoin
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i won't even touch 'b' << I might work on answering the b problems as they materialize
mircea_popescu: what, you think i was born with it or something.
asciilifeform: not quite same item, but if one must have one, i'd have nash's
asciilifeform: i am at a total loss as to how this results in a weaker system
asciilifeform: i still don't see it, btw. if re-encrypting could result in weakening, it would be a cryptoanalytic tool (as it in fact is for certain misimplemented rsatrons, actually)
asciilifeform: i suppose that'd be a hint as to the answer, wouldntit
asciilifeform: i won't even touch 'b'
mircea_popescu: i was aiming for that nebulous cloud.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: but i have given up trying to fit some kind of earthling logic to mircea_popescu's moves
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i can't picture him choosing to walk usg earth again
trinque: it is at this point I'll note for the attentive readers that I parse my inputs myself, tyvm
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller i've only ever migrated a blog from wp to wp
felipelalli: I sent to this.
asciilifeform: ludovic xiv may say 'l'etat c'est moi', but i am not therealbitcoin !
felipelalli: asciilifeform, ok, I'll try :)
pete_dushenski: the riff-raff they let in wouldn't cut it in any of the high school or junior high productions i was in
felipelalli: asciilifeform, ok, I'm sorry. I did not want to pollute the list.
felipelalli: asciilifeform, I sent you two things. Which one should I send to the mailing list?
asciilifeform: i fully expect to eat every penny i ever saved, at some point, and then starve.
pete_dushenski: hm. i do not.
pete_dushenski: i had the same 'stuck' in 2013 and i can tell you that it's not the end of the world to unjam
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 15:39:08; PeterL: well, I have had it stuck in a "retirement account" for a few years now, seemed like a good idea back when I put it in ... bleh
asciilifeform: i admit that i kinda half expect this sort of thing to catch on
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo rss likes trilema well enough. and i'll be damned if it's smart enough to tell the difference between mp's jooiness and mine
pete_dushenski: why should i expect anything to work out of the box ?
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo not impossibru, but i really haven't diddled with it. then again, perhaps that's the issue
pete_dushenski: trinque guess i coulda done that too eh. but thx!
danielpbarron: especially nice considering that i'm using one of my old 5400 IDE-cable hard drives, and not even in a mirroring raid!
asciilifeform: i mean, this is 'tungsten melts in your mouth'-grade tardation
asciilifeform: i can't tell
punkman: not sure why, but I love this composition http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjYzMTkyOTMwMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMjYyNzA5NDE@._V1__SX1857_SY851_.jpg
danielpbarron: my 0.5.4-beta node is up to height=231807 and syncing much faster than any machine i've ever maintained (due in part to the wonderful DISCARD BASTARD BLOCK feature, and in part to this particular machine having 8 gigs of ram)
danielpbarron: was a few months ago if i recall correctly
mats: by no means do I think this is safe, but hey, risk taking is for the young
mircea_popescu: wtf am i gonna do tho, make it multiple choice ?!
asciilifeform: i most certainly shall.
asciilifeform: not overly fond of the sea, i take it ?
mircea_popescu: i don't live on staten island, either.
asciilifeform: nah, dog i could go for
mircea_popescu: not hot at all. i just picked a random name, cuz some interwebs chick was from there. then you got all immuno-responsive on me.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: the clockwork orange method i see.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: will the eyes scale? if a lot of cipher text turds are being thrown around you'd have to have a lot of eyes, as I can't imagine this scaling very well.
thestringpuller: trinque: ah. I remember that scene.
mircea_popescu: ironically enough, i serve millions of pages/day to various of these idiots, and none yet has managed to observe that they do not get articles.
mircea_popescu: "MegaIndex - powerfull analytics tool which allows to get comprehensive report about web-site's incoming and outgoing links." <, in other news, i am persuaded 50% or more of webtrafic is meta.
asciilifeform: mike_c: the basic concept here is the same as in hygiene elsewhere. i, personally, do not know of anyone who has become ill from, e.g., eating rotting carcass. but i refrain nonetheless.
williamdunne: I like it
mircea_popescu: yeah amusingly i had the same problem lol
mircea_popescu: nah, mpex is "potemkins all the way down". i read it on reddit.
mike_c: i mean, what's it going to do? root the box? I guess that's worst case.
mike_c: i mean nobody (here) knows of any real example of this working.
asciilifeform: i'll let mircea_popescu answer this one (if he feels like..) - iirc there is also a 'diode' in there somewhere
williamdunne: mike_c: I'm assuming he's meaning airgapping
williamdunne: I'm on Ubuntu running GnuPG 1.4.16
asciilifeform: http://www.clisp.org << get it (or, i recommend, don't!) here
williamdunne: i.e clisp lacks a documented library afaik
williamdunne: +1 on auto-upping some nicks. I wanted to re-write Scoop in a language that doesn't use JIT and other such crap, but many languages lack GPG libraries that actually work.
mircea_popescu: but i can't stand dumb.
mircea_popescu: i prefer the company of intelligent folks.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not in the 'morals' business. but personally prefer the company of folks who wash, at least on occasion.
trinque: anywho, I am just trying to keep the gears turning. I'm not "pissed"
trinque: kakobrekla: at the time I wrote deedbot- there was an agreement that the thing should voice itself when I asked you to autovoice it.
lobbes: the rest, I thought was williamdunne
lobbes: trinque: not scoops, per se. I've just been on a quest to handle alf's phuctor feed
trinque: I'm not pissed at all. lobbes here seems to want to do scoops.
mircea_popescu: uh. did i miss something ?