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Luceo: mircea_popescu: If you offer 15% outside bitcoin they'd call it a HYIP :P
teek: mircea_popescu: something like that.. seems the interest is too low, everyone wants pirate rates
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yup
smickles: mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67535.msg1099694#msg1099694
kakobreklaa: 05:09.09 ( mircea_popescu ) hmm, is assbot off kakobrekla ?
kakobreklaa: mircea_popescu ?
smickles: mircea_popescu: well, i was exaggerating about 'k's, i would, of course, cater to large clients
smickles: mircea_popescu: the more i think about it. the 'watching mpex addy and keeping track of stuff internally' method isn't as complicated as i made it out to be
smickles: mircea_popescu: are you so unwilling/unable to have a line in the STAT similar to the Dividend receipts section which shows recent deposits?
smickles: mircea_popescu: but what about when the sum of the users requests exceeds the amount of btc which is in the mpex account?
smickles: mircea_popescu: but say my mpex acout has 10 btc in it, the user deposits 100 btc (to my wallet), i have to confirm that, forward it to mpex and wait for the funds to show up in the CxBTC before they can do anything over 10BTC
smickles: mircea_popescu: if i had some confirmation of funds being available in a STAT, i could safely have the user send a deposit directly
smickles: mircea_popescu: then a user could take advantage of me
smickles: mircea_popescu: i would need to know when the funds became available in the account. is that not done manually?
smickles: ug, mircea_popescu, what am i missing here. Is there a way to see that a deposit has made it into an mpex accout other than seeing that the account balance is higher?
smickles: mircea_popescu: lol, it's the apache default cert
smickles: mircea_popescu: well, i'm making db tables of my own to hold data for mpex sub-accounts
smickles: mircea_popescu: i wonder if i'm replicating your database tables, just with different names
smickles: mircea_popescu: how about the lantern is just the options exchange, the market is made by it's users and your /independant/ market making bot
smickles: mircea_popescu: damn. you'd need some fairly sweet AI
smickles: mircea_popescu: what? ppl cant hold shares in some autonomous program with no human controller? what's the problem of ipo in that situation?
kakobrekla: no help mircea_popescu :(
smickles: mircea_popescu: what you should do is allow it to automatically purchase and run from algorhithmicaly determined hosting services while also setting up all the manual operations in automatic form. Then, release it like one of those 'lucky lantern' things
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu, i added mpex dividend payments to assbot
smickles: mircea_popescu: is there any way to find out if the funds are going to (or likely to) be used?
smickles: mircea_popescu: suppose the 'bonds' people subscribe to were done with a multisig transaction some how where the lender could recall the funds before they are used (or marked for use) by mpoe?
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: do you wriet the options?
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: take it out
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: oh, there might have been competition, but not as much as there might have been if you hadn't tied it up :) since many potential competitors might abstain from participating, just because of the risk, even if they were willing to offer low rates
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: that doesn't mean there was competition
smickles: mircea_popescu: wouldn't there be competition even w/o the 'tie up'?
smickles: mircea_popescu: arn't those ppt.X things zero cupon bonds?
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: yes, until everything is OK
smickles: mircea_popescu: so then where would the funds to cover losses come from?
smickles: mircea_popescu actually has a record of changing MPEx's insturments when shortcommings are pointed out
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: do not take it personally but I think you need to rewrite it a bit
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: default is something else and not what you have there
EskimoBob: shit where did mircea_popescu go?
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: you see, bond is a loan. Equity is like lets build some stuff and I'll give you some money. What ever you build, part of it is mine and so are the profits...AFTER! the bonds are paid off (its debt)
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: you wanted to look at some securities?
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: one from last night?
coingenuity: ouch X_X\
noagendamarket: mircea_popescu no we havent. I havent traded otc for a long time.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: probably :P
smickles: mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98491.40 get your pr lady to point out that it's not 'the best time to sell in a year', it's the best time to buy puts in a year
smickles: mircea_popescu: as low as 0.00861487
smickles: mircea_popescu: there we are. but my point is, given the current ust/btc price history, the amount of hashes on the network has yet to catch up
smickles: mircea_popescu: hmm, i think i used a different method to value it or something
rg: mircea_popescu: most of my trades are over $100
Luceo: usagi: I lol every time I see that asset name >_>
Luceo: mircea_popescu: The flaw is that stupid people don't read the descriptions of the trades :P
gribble: User 'mircea_popescu', with keyid 8A736F0E2FB7B452, fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None, registered on Fri Jul 22 05:39:10 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=mircea_popescu . Currently not authenticated.
smickles: ;;gpg info mircea_popescu
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User mircea_popescu, rated since Fri Jul 22 08:04:26 2011. Cumulative rating 76, from 37 total ratings. Received ratings: 36 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 40 positive, 2 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu
Luceo: ;;getrating mircea_popescu
Luceo: -_-
smickles: mircea_popescu: if polimedia is, as you state, your company. then surely you can show me a pic of the company's logo/name on a bumpersticker which is itself on a pair of tits
Luceo: And idk what I'm going to do when StartSSL asks me to prove I'm Kim Jong-il, I mean he fucking died >_<
Luceo: www.enom.com/whois/default.aspx?DomainName=fennec.name Like srsly I must be a scammer -_-
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: can I call you Martha in future
Luceo: mircea_popescu: Azelphur didn't steal me :P
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: wat
Luceo: Permission not to care >_<
Luceo: >_<
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: and then donate it all to the church :P
Luceo: >_>
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: SS
smickles: mircea_popescu: yup, those people
Luceo: Azelphur: lol I have an aunt called Sue, and likewise >_>
Luceo: mircea_popescu: Speaking from experience? :P
Luceo: mircea_popescu: That.
smickles: mircea_popescu: yeah, plenty of details
smickles: mircea_popescu: yeah, the 'riot' was just because of the way nefario presented things
smickles: mircea_popescu ya
smickles: mircea_popescu: wasn't paraipan the guy who filed a police report on sombody?
smickles: mircea_popescu: i would assume he means a form of id which is made of plastic and 'issued to you'
Luceo: mircea_popescu: Blame the government :(
smickles: mircea_popescu: this ciuciu person want's your id
Luceo: I just get annoyed at people Q_Qing about 'omg hidden whois' like it means anything
Luceo: mircea_popescu: Pseudonymous is good
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> you can prolly safely ban that entire C class for carding.
mircea_popescu: * lonely_ has quit (Quit: Page closed)
mircea_popescu: <kakobreklaa> O_o
mircea_popescu: <lonely_> mircea trimite un msg pe privat
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> nope.
mircea_popescu: <lonely_> can i get some btc with my mastercard? i can provide documents that im the cardholder, but i need btc very quick
mircea_popescu: * lonely_ (59cca34d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.204.163.77) has joined #bitcoin-otc-eu
smickles: mircea_popescu: i heard some biz you ran went bankrupt
smickles: mircea_popescu: i would've looked like a bonafide geenass
smickles: mircea_popescu: yeah, i meant to have a buy in there to catch those sort of things :/
smickles: mircea_popescu: didn't it drop to 0.00010000 before this recent spurt?
smickles: mircea_popescu: we have about 21 in btc too
smickles: mircea_popescu: sec, i'll get the exact #
smickles: mircea_popescu: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/3622733/8d6c3595f76d101003b1c09810d2b0f5108ea2952cdf873e460fe94049143c2c
smickles: mircea_popescu: ?
Azelphur: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsyez9IMC51qhoydp.gif \o/
Ignatius-otc: Has managing btc assets become a full time job for your mircea_popescu?
Ignatius-otc: mircea_popescu: the illegal aprt applies to regulated markets. For example, there is the retail foreign exchange amrket, unregulated, and bukcet shops are all voer the place.
Ignatius-otc1: Is that a pirate related bond mircea_popescu?
Ignatius-otc1: mircea_popescu: is there still a 20BTC fee to open an account with MPEX? I found someone with an account who would place orders there for me, but he wnated 10% roundtrip.